Never in the history of medicine has so much been done, by so many, so incompetently, with so little consequence as in the treatment of severe hyponatremia. #Tweetorial 1/10
You shouldn't correct hyponatremia too fast. The speed limit is 8 mmol/L per day. We are terrible at it. In George et al, 41% of 1,490 pts were corrected faster than 8 mEq/L. Look at the poor slobs at the left of the nomogram whose Na actually went down 🤪 2/10
Thankfully this incompetence is rarely punished. Of the 611 (41% of 1490) patients who over-corrected in the George trial, only 7 developed osmotic demyelination syndrome (ODS). Screw the sodium correction and you can get away with it 99% of the time. 3/10
I was invited to help a study looking at the incidence of ODS in hyponatremia using the GEMINI database which tracks internal medicine admissions in Toronto. It is amazing when someone you look up to DMs you asking to join them on an important study. Thanks @FralickMike 4/10
We tracked every case of hyponatremia (Na < 130) admitted to 5 academic hospitals in Toronto from 2010-2020.
22,858 cases. This is the biggest hyponatremia study ever. Even if you restrict the cohort to just sodiums < 120, it is nearly 2x George et al 5/10
The Canadians seem to do a better job of correcting the sodium, went too fast in only 18% of cases, 3632 patients. But hold on, a lot of these people had relatively mild hyponatremia. When you break it down by starting Na, Canadians look just as bad as the US at going slow 6/10
And what was the consequence of all that hyponatremia? All that rapid correction? 12 of osmotic demyelinating syndrome.
12 out of 22,858. 0.05%
If you divide by starting Na they found an incidence of:
0.3% with a Na < 120
0.015% with a Na > 120
**2.5% with a Na < 110**
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The part of the manuscript you are looking for is the rates of ODS by rapid versus slow correction. Sorry. We couldn't publish this due to the ethical guardrails placed on this trial. And the statisticians wouldn’t whisper it in my ear because they know me. Bummer. 8/10
So what can we take from this paper? ODS is rare; Canadians are just at bad correcting the sodium slowly as the guys in Pittsburgh; and the rate of ODS really rises as the initial sodium level goes does down, from a trivial 0.015% at levels > 120 to 2.5% with sodiums < 110. 9/10
Next session started by Rovin to talk about IGAN pathophysiology and the selection of therapeutics
4-hit model 1. formation of IGA galactose deficient 2. formation of autoantibodies against these IgA 3. Formation of circulating IgG-IgA1 immune complexes 4. Deposition of the immune complexes in the kidney
#RKDSummit
1st case
Hematuria on U/A
Gross hematuria after covid vaccine
10 RBC/HPF, no casts
Scar 0.9 mg/dl, 24-hr urine 750 mg of protein
#RKDSummit
A bit “Juicy”
Mesangial expansion (arrows, fig 1)
Mesangial hypercellularity (circle, fig 2)
Biopsy has no chronicity (fig 3)
Lights up with C3 and IgA (fig 4)
When we published our study <> of ODS and hyponatremia we were pummeled for including people at low risk of ODS because we included Na levels between 120 and 130. They said it is well known "that ODS is incredibly rare/non-existent at those levels." 1/4evidence.nejm.org/doi/10.1056/EV…
Of course one of the reasons it was thought to be incredibly rare was that no one looked for CPM in patients with Na from 120-130. We found a fair number (≤5 of 12). 2/4
Our findings are replicated in a study from Australia. The authors took a different approach to investigating ODS. Instead of starting w/ hyponatremia and working forward to ODS, they started with a dx of ODS and worked backwards
3/4ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/35717664
Gadolinium in dialysis patients.
What's up with that?
#Tweetorial
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Nephrogenic systemic fibrosis (NSF) is an iatrogenic disease that presents with hardening of the skin and other organs. It is often lethal. I treated 5 people with this condition (including one with AKI). Terrible.
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The etiology of NSF was unknown and there were many theories. In 2006, Thomas Grobner published a small case series showing 5 patients developing NSF within weeks of receiving gadolinium contrast for MRI.
3/11pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16431890/
I just recently recommended the Renal Physiology book by Bruce Koeppen and Bruce Stanton. I thought it was a good medical student level text book: pbfluids.com/2023/08/ouwb-s…
But I came across this question in Chapter 8 Regulation of Acid Base. It is a straight forward question asking the learner to interpret simple acid-base cases.
But the question falls apart when you look at the answer...