Afternoon thread: Lori Vallow Daybell trial:

Detective Hermasillo still on direct. Lori is in the courtroom. Waiting on the judge and jury. We've been told the next round of photos are graphic. #LoriVallowtrial @LawCrimeNetwork

Lori's attorneys asked to have privacy to talk to Lori. They said she had just been brought back up and needed to talk to her. There was a quick sidebar. We are extending our lunch break by a few minutes. #LoriVallowtrial @LawCrimeNetwork

People have asked how Lori was leaving the courtroom. She had her arms crossed and head kind of down. Seemed like she was emotional about something. Still not back from their discussion yet.

Lori's attorneys came and got the prosecution and they went in a room or hallway behind the judge's bench. #LoriVallowtrial @LawCrimeNetwork

Both sides came back in and left. We are taking a 30 minute recess. #LoriVallowtrial @LawCrimeNetwork

We are all a buzz wondering what is up. Many saw Lori crying. Back at 1:35 #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork

The state is back in the courtroom. No sign of Lori and the defense team. Tension is palpable here. #LoriVallowtrial @LawCrimeNetwork

Both sides have gone back into the room again. #LoriVallowtrial @LawCrimeNetwork

They called the deputies back there. They are standing in the doorway talking. #LoriVallowtrial @LawCrimeNetwork

Deputies are back in now. #LoriVallowtrial @LawCrimeNetwork

The state is coming in. Rob Wood doesn't look too happy. The state is huddled talking at their table #LoriVallowtrial @LawCrimeNetwork

The defense is back in the room but no sign of Lori yet #LoriVallowtrial @LawCrimeNetwork

Lori is back in the courtroom with arms folded. #LoriVallowtrial @LawCrimeNetwork

Judge Boyce is on the bench. #LoriVallowtrial @LawCrimeNetwork

Judge Boyce says an issue came up and had been advised of a situation that needs to be argued outside the presence of the jury #LoriVallowtrial @LawCrimeNetwork

Lori has a request. #LoriVallowtrial @LawCrimeNetwork

Mr Archibald says Lori wishes to waive her presence at the testimony for the remainder of the day #LoriVallowtrial @LawCrimeNetwork

Archibald said this morning was emotional for her and he mentions her fragile mental state. Lindsey Blake is arguing she should be in. #LoriVallowtrial @LawCrimeNetwork

Blake says this isn't the 1st time Lori has asked not to be present. #LoriVallowtrial @LawCrimeNetwork

The state would ask for a jury instruction IF she is allowed to not attend this afternoon's testimony. Lori is looking down and has a bit of a red face #LoriVallowtrial @LawCrimeNetwork

Archibald says jury instructions would be premature. He asks to reserve ruling on that. Judge Boyce says he has researched it over lunch.
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Judge Boyce says the court has the authority has the right to override the request of Lori to excuse herself and he finds that her presence should be required. #LoriVallowtrial @LawCrimeNetwork

Lori looks NONE TO HAPPY #LoriVallowtrial @LawCrimeNetwork

Jury is coming back in and we are about to get started again #LoriVallowtrial @LawCrimeNetwork

Jury is back in, Detective Hermasillo is back on the stand, and we are getting started again

Lori stands as the jury comes in. She has been crying, has her arms crossed, and doesn't look up #LoriVallowtrial @LawCrimeNetwork

Detective Hermasillo put together a chart with photos and names to help the jury keep track of who's who. #LoriVallowtrial @LawCrimeNetwork

They show the "Key Figures" paper. Lori, Charles, Alex, Chad, Tammy, Tylee, JJ, and Melaniece (Melani Pawlowski) #LoriVallowtrial @LawCrimeNetwork

Another exhibit shows dates, times, and events related to the case for the jury. #LoriVallowtrial @LawCrimeNetwork

The dates and times sheet is kind of a bar graph - 7/11/19 Charles murder,
9/2-3/19 - the move to rexburg
9/8/19 last proof of life - Tylee
9/22/19 last proof of life JJ
10/2/19, Brandon shot at
10/9/19 Tammy attempted shooting
10/19/19 Tammy murdered

Det Hermasillo also put together an investigation timeline #LoriVallowtrial @LawCrimeNetwork

Photos of the pet cemetery and burial site for Tylee about to be shown. #LoriVallowtrial @LawCrimeNetwork

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Photos
1 - pet cemetery & fire pit overall photo.
2. Soil looks different as they dug. We see clumps of rotted/charred flesh and bone fragments
3. Close up of tissue and bone
4. Melted green bucket with flesh and bone, organs not completely burned.
5. Partial… twitter.com/i/web/status/1…

They show a closeup of the partial skull. They had to get on their hands and knees. to dig The smell was so bad the could only work a few minutes at a time and get relieved for a few min. #LoriVallowtrial @LawCrimeNetwork

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They also found part of a jawbone under the bucket. #LoriVallowtrial @LawCrimeNetwork

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After they tried to remove a mass of flesh they show the moist soil. The dug deeper and found teeth #LoriVallowtrial @LawCrimeNetwork

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They show what was inside the bucket - charred bone and flesh, top of a skull, eye sockets #LoriVallowtrial @LawCrimeNetwork

Lori is looking down at the table. She hasn't looked up for a solid 10 minutes. #LoriVallowtrial @LawCrimeNetwork

On June 10 they dropped JJ and Tylee's remains in the Ada county coroner's office and would come back for the autopsy on June 11. #LoriVallowtrial @LawCrimeNetwork

They met with the medical examiner on June 11 and briefed them on what they were about to go through. They dressed up and they are ready signed in. The staff brought out the body bag with JJ's remains. #LoriVallowtrial @LawCrimeNetwork

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The open the bag, took photos, and cut into the plastic bags to reveal the remains. Det Hermasillo saw a little boy in red pajamas. White plastic bag around his head, ducktape from chin to forehead, arms duct taped with several layers. Feet were bound… twitter.com/i/web/status/1…

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There was a child's blanket on top of him. They cut the bag on top of JJ's head. Underneath the bag was duct tape from jaw line to jaw line. They cut the duct tape away from his hands and arms #LoriVallowtrial @LawCrimeNetwork

That exposed more duct tape. #LoriVallowtrial @LawCrimeNetwork

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He stayed for the whole autopsy. After the duct tape was removed he recognized the body was JJ. #LoriVallowtrial @LawCrimeNetwork

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His PJ's were wet from decomposition. He had a pull-up diaper. JJ had visible bruising on his arms. #LoriVallowtrial @LawCrimeNetwork

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After the autopsy the pathologist brought in Tylee's remains. He undid the body bag and the pathologist said there wasn't anything he was going to do that evening so they left and would come back the next day #LoriVallowtrial @LawCrimeNetwork

They are going to show the autopsy photos. This is hitting Larry Woodcock very hard. He is sobbing. #LoriVallowtrial @LawCrimeNetwork

Jurors are emotional - some crying #LoriVallowtrial @LawCrimeNetwork

No words. Bless JJ. #LoriVallowtrial @LawCrimeNetwork

Detective Hermasillo transported items from the autopsy to the ID state lab on June 12th. #LoriVallowtrial @LawCrimeNetwork

They didn't do anything further with Tylee's remains in Ada County. #LoriVallowtrial @LawCrimeNetwork

Send some love and light to Larry Woodcock - this has not been easy for him #LoriVallowtrial @LawCrimeNetwork

Mr Thomas is up for the defense. Nov 1 Hermasillo was contacted by Fremont County about the Jeep. He contacted Gilbert PD in Arizona to get more info. Thomas asks about intermittent surveillance #LoriVallowtrial @LawCrimeNetwork

He had them under survelience for 2 weeks for around 15 hours total. They found the Jeep on Nov 4. Thomas asks if it was a stakeout? Hermaillo says we took photos and parked and watched to give Gilbert PD any intel they could. #LoriVallowtrial @LawCrimeNetwork

He saw Chad and Lori together November 1st but not after that. Mr Thomas asks about how long he stayed each time and Hermasillo said it depended on what they had going on with no set schedule. #LoriVallowtrial @LawCrimeNetwork. .

The 1st time Hermasillo and Rexburg heard of JJ was Nov 18 when Gilbert PD came to get the infotainment center information on the Jeep. #LoriVallowtrial @LawCrimeNetwork

Lori is turned with her chair almost facing Archibald. She is kind of leaning to one side and looking down.#LoriVallowtrial @LawCrimeNetwork

Hermasillo was asked why he got a search warrant for the townhomes and he said based on the family friend story being a lie. (Melanie Gibb) Thomas questions when this happened and Hermasillo said that night they knew JJ wasn't with Melanie Gibb #LoriVallowtrial @LawCrimeNetwork

Thomas says on direct you said something different. Hermsillo said if you remember I testified we were on our way to get the warrant and Lori called so we went back to talk to her. #LoriVallowtrial @LawCrimeNetwork

Thomas says so what was the crime? You went to get a warrant based on a hunch? Hermsaillo said no, for lying about the whereabouts of JJ. #LoriVallowtrial @LawCrimeNetwork

Lori looks like she is taking a nap. #LoriVallowtrial @LawCrimeNetwork

You said the last proof of life for Tylee was 9/8/19 - isn't it true you had hundreds of tips come in of their whereabouts in the months after September 8. Hermasillo said we never had a credible tip. Thomas saying you didn't follow up on EVERY tip? Hermasillo said true… twitter.com/i/web/status/1…

Thomas says about Tammy Daybell - Do you know Lori was on October 19, 2019? Hermasillo says Hawaii. Thomas says she was nowhere near Tammy when she died. #LoriVallowtrial @LawCrimeNetwork

Thomas - when you searched the property on June 9 you got there around 7AM and this wasn't a spur of the moment thing? It was planned? Hermasillo says yes for weeks #LoriVallowtrial @LawCrimeNetwork

Thomas asks how many times have you done a search with the FBI and you were kinda helping them out? Hermasillo says 5-6 times. #LoriVallowtrial @LawCrimeNetwork

Thomas says when the search warrant was going on at Chad's he says you can't say for sure where he was looking when over his shoulder? Hermasillo - he was looking at the tree. Thomas - we can agree to disagree #LoriVallowtrial @LawCrimeNetwork

Thomas asks if he was alone sifting thru the fire pit and he said there were people directing and helping them. #LoriVallowtrial @LawCrimeNetwork

We Defense attorney Thomas is asking how they took the soil off JJ's grave.
Hermasillo - a shovel.
Thomas - what kind of shovel?
Hermasillo- I don't know.
Thomas - how much dirt was taken off 1st.
Hermasillo - an inch #LoriVallowtrial @LawCrimeNetwork

Judge Boyce stops Thomas and says it's time to adjourn. #LoriVallowtrial @LawCrimeNetwork