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Michael Emmett on electrolyte artifacts
Pre-analytical and analytical #NKFClinicals Image
Starting with pseudohyponatremia
These are real cases
The osmolality was 294, so there is a huge gap. 44ish
Implies Artifactual decrease in sodium
Her triglycerides were >6000 #NKFClinicals Image
Note the different between HCO3 and tCO2 should be closer than 19 and 9. #NKFClinicals Image
The Flame photometer created the specialty of nephrology by allowing rapid measurement of Na and K. Calls it the engine of nephrology. Took time of measuring Na from all day to minutes. #NKFClinicals ImageImage
When we talk liters we are usually talking about liters of serum/plasma, but we measure concentrations in liter of water. If that solid component goes from 7% to 20% you over dilute the sample. Solid is usually lipid, could also be protein. #NKFClinicals Image
The next innovation was the ion selective electrode and it did not have this weakness #NKFClinicals ImageImage
Now we use indirect ion selective electrode reintroduces the dilution step which re-introduces the error which we avoided with direct ion selective electrode. #NKFClinicals Image
Conclusion #NKFClinicals Image
The bicarbonate is dropped by the lipids due to the inability to transmit light through the sample. Hyperviscosity also results in overdilution.

Nice study showing the relationship to Na error to protein concentration #NKFClinicals Image
Severe cholestasasis can increase Lipoprotein X no lipemic blood. After BMT and liver failure. #NKFClinicals Image
Anion gap of minus 47.
They checked bromide levels. Which were normal.
What is the cause of pseudo hyper chlorine? #NKFClinicals ImageImage
Chloride sensitive electrodes can be poisoned by aspirin causing increased permeability of the electrode. #NKFClinicals ImageImage

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Lab guy from Yale up next Joe El Khoury He is on YouTube. Episode 1 was on pseudohyponatemia
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Here is the YouTube channel: youtube.com/@ClinChemJoe

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I presented a poster at #NKFClinicals. This came from working with ViforCSL on the KALM-1 and KALM-2 meta-analysis of the pivotal trials of difelikefalin for CKD associated pruritus (CKDaP). About a year ago we brainstomed what other lessons could we could pull from the data. Image
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Mar 29
Never in the history of medicine has so much been done, by so many, so incompetently, with so little consequence as in the treatment of severe hyponatremia. #Tweetorial 1/10
You shouldn't correct hyponatremia too fast. The speed limit is 8 mmol/L per day. We are terrible at it. In George et al, 41% of 1,490 pts were corrected faster than 8 mEq/L. Look at the poor slobs at the left of the nomogram whose Na actually went down 🤪 2/10
Thankfully this incompetence is rarely punished. Of the 611 (41% of 1490) patients who over-corrected in the George trial, only 7 developed osmotic demyelination syndrome (ODS). Screw the sodium correction and you can get away with it 99% of the time. 3/10
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The begining of my medical career was dominated by HIV

Start med school in 91. Magic Johnson announces he is HIV+
MS3 med students do blood draws on HIV+ patients (phlebotomy refuses)
MS4 lost my first patient, advanced dementia HIV
Graduated in '95, peak HIV, 50k US deaths
The whole clincal world was HIV, but you would go to the textbooks and they would still be calling HIV HLTV3. It was bonkers. It was in this envirnoment that UpToDate crushed Harrisons.
Then during residency HAART emerges and the whole thing melts away in a matter of years. All that knowledge about opportunistic infections becomes less a critical part of IM and selective ID knowledge.
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