What the judge did get right was that magazine are indeed arms under the Second Amendment. The idea that magazines are somehow not "arms" is something every state that bans magazines is trying to argue. I'm happy even this clearly hostile judge didn't buy this argument at least.
Notice the sleight of hand here. He starts with "whether the prohibited weapons are ‘typically possessed . . . for lawful purposes.” That's the correct standard for 2A protection.
But then he narrows that to JUST self-defense, which is not the only lawful purpose.
This seems like a dodge by the court to me, but if it is true that the Plaintiffs conceded this point too easily, they should argue it differently on summary judgment.
This is such ahistorical nonsense. Just look at my thread on the 19th century commentary - military small arms are MOST protected by the Second Amendment. This is a point SCOTUS will have to clarify soon, because it will keep being abused.
A common trend with bad-faith analyses by antigun judges is to basically sneak in barely-veiled interest balancing under the guise of a plain text analysis.
Here, this is just him saying the burden of a mag cap law is light. That's interest balancing.
It's also straight up nonsense because even if the test were only about self-defense, the fact remains that many popular semiauto pistols today come standard with mags over ten rounds. Thus, they are commonly *owned* for self defense, which is the test.
Wow, now he's not even trying to hide the policymaking in his ruling. Police maintaining their advantage is NOT part of the Second Amendment analysis. Maybe this judge should run for congress and write bills with police exemptions if this is what he wants to do.
And now, after he spent all that time magically switching the standard to commonly USED for self defense, he switches back and declares they are not typically POSSESSED for self defense.
This is a straight up lie. The Winchester Model 1866 was absolutely sold to civilians, and sold pretty well too.
Regardless, the model 1873 was an even bigger hit, and since the state wants to use historical analogues as laste as the 20th century, that's relevant too.
So? They were still a huge jump in capacity compared to the single-shot weapons that prevailed before. You could now fire as many as 16 shots before reloading. And not one state restricted these guns, nor the 5-6 shot revolvers that replaced flintlock pistols.
We looked at the exact same laws in Duncan. Most only applied to machine guns, and most were repealed not too long after.
The judge also pretended the DC law was representative, when it in fact was the outlier among these state-level machine gun capacity laws. This is from our Duncan briefing:
So even if 20th century history was relevant here, and it isn't, the judge is relying on a single outlier and pretending it's a historical tradition. Even TODAY the vast majority of states do not restrict magazine capacity. How can there be any historical tradition?
Repeating arms became common in the 1850s for handguns and the 1860s for rifles. Yet firearm capacity was not regulated at all until the 1930s, and even most of those laws were repealed and only applied to machine guns. There is no historical tradition of regulating capacity.
This is dumb. There were several more states by the 1930s compared to 1868. Six states is not a sufficient amount of states, even if the 20th century history were relevant.
All in all, a very disappointing ruling loaded with bad faith analysis. An antigun judge knew exactly what he was going to do before he read a single brief.
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Alright, I think I'm the last one getting to it as I was driving when this released, but time for a thread on the en banc Duncan ruling.
For those not as informed, this loss was 100% expected. it's the same panel as the 2020 en banc, and the same exact result, 7-4. For the judges in the majority, Bruen clearly changed nothing because they decided this result before even thinking about the relevant law. We all know it, and it's important we be open about that, as dissenting judges have been in the past.
But in an important way, this is actually a win on timing. They could have held onto this for way more time. Instead, CRPA can seek cert, and maybe even be considered alongside Snope.
This thread is also a historic one because I have to figure out how to cover the first-ever video dissent!
Bruen was clear that judges are not supposed to engage in interest balancing, and yet every hostile ruling on magazines or "Assault weapons" begins by heartstring-tugging about mass shootings.
Besides being wrong on the law, it's also wrong on policy. California's laws have not stopped it from having a disproportionate share of mass shootings.
Heller was clear that an arm includes everything someone takes into their hands to cast at or strike another, citing founding-era dictionaries.
En banc denied in May v. Bonta, Carralero v. Bonta, and Wolford v. Lopez, our case and two others concerning overexpansive sensitive places laws in California and Hawaii. Not really surprising. Now we will either seek SCOTUS cert review, or, go back down to get a final judgment.
There were 8 dissenting judges from the denial of en banc review. A thread on the dissenting opinions.
Ok?
Not sure why they didn't just join the VanDyke dissent....maybe he said mean things about their colleagues lol
They aren't really all that creative, New York did the same thing. But the 2nd circuit struck their vampire rule, unlike Hawaii's. (California's was stricken for a very technical difference)
The Snope reply brief is in. This concludes the briefing for the cert petition (aside from any amicus briefs coming in support of the state).
Let's take a look at what they argued in response to Maryland's opposition.
A strong opening here, basically telling the Court that if they don't put a stop to this, it will have only itself to blame when the abuse continues. I would only add that the reason the lower courts have all gone the same way is because the more pro-gun circuits never see such cases, being generally made up of more pro-gun states.
Agreed. "Percolation" is valuable only if you assume good faith. And we have no reason to in this context.
Let's take a look at Maryland's opposition brief to the cert petition in Snope v. Brown, the case we are all hoping the Supreme Court decides to take so it can settle the "assault weapon" issue (and hopefully some other issues).
Props to the Maryland attorneys for getting this done despite having to type through the tears of Kamala's loss.
They always focus on this language from Heller, but ignore four things:
1. It was dicta inserted mainly to keep Justice Kennedy on board.
2. It was clearly referring to machine guns, not semiautomatic rifles.
3. Heller's author and Bruen's author dissented in Friedman from the denial of cert, and were very clear that semiautomatic rifles like the AR-15 may not be banned.
4. SCOTUS GVR'd this very case after Bruen. If they thought this was a settled question, no reason to do that (and it's why I'll be very mad if they deny cert now!)
If SCOTUS dodges, this may be why. But it would be a very bad excuse to do so.
No "percolation" is likely to happen in any pro-2A circuits, because the states within those circuits do not pass bans on firearms. So only hostile circuits like the 4th, 7th, 9th, etc. will hear these cases. Not the progun 5th, 11th, or 8th. |
And while SCOTUS lets them "percolate", the anti-2A courts will continue to bastardize Bruen beyond recognition, just as they did Heller.
A thread on our final judgment from Judge McGlynn in our case of FFL-IL v. Pritzker. We represented Federal Firearms Licensees of Illinois, Guns Save Life, Gun Owners of America, Gun Owners Foundation, Piasa Armory, and individual plaintiffs in this challenge to the euphemistically named "Protect Illinois Communities Act" (an "assault weapon" and magazine ban).
The "Rorschach test of America's gun debate." I like that.
I am going to skip through the background section as I am sure everyone following this case is well aware.
Tl;Dr - challenge to Illinois's "assault weapon" ban, magazine capacity limit, and registration requirement.
Note that California law classifies ALL Glocks as "unsafe handguns" because they do not have a compliant chamber load indicator, lack a magazine disconnect mechanism, and until our lawsuit caused California to repeal the requirement, of course lacked microstamping.
The only reason we can still buy Gen 3s is because they are grandfathered in, but they are still "unsafe handguns". We can't buy more modern Glocks new in gun stores (just secondhand from exempt cops, or from those who moved here with them from other states).
She supported the Unsafe Handgun Act and expanded it such that microstamping began to be enforced in 2013. So why does she own an "unsafe handgun"?
If a Glock is "safe" enough for Kamala Harris, she should call for the repeal of the handgun roster so Californians can buy more modern Glocks.
The lives of millions of regular people aren't worth less than hers.
Thanks to our lawsuit on behalf of CRPA and others in Boland v. Bonta, new semiauto pistol models have been able to enter the California roster for the first time in a decade after microstamping enforcement stopped.
But the guns added are still just a small fraction of the whole market, as it's not possible (or sometimes not financially feasible) to redesign guns to have the unwanted magazine disconnects and chamber load indicators.