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Tim Skellett Profile picture
@Gurdur
Apr 23 • 9 tweets • 4 min read Twitter logo Read on Twitter
The second statement in the tweet below by @MistyGedlinske is simply a lie, meant to mislead. Hormone replacement therapy (HRT) for menopausal women (of any age) has absolutely zero to do with 'gender affirmation'.
#WomensHealth Tweet from @MistyGedlinske:...
Wrong. Once it gets to the point where healthy tissue and organs are being surgically removed or grossly handicapped through inappropriate medications, & rendering the rest of your life prone to bad unhealthiness, society very much gets to have a say.

Tweet from @MistyGedlinske:...
Happy to oblige, but you're mistaken if you think you can try for an 'argument' from mistaken personal authority. It gets down to logic; & here *everyone* gets a say, not just you or me. You're trying to conflate two different things, & that won't work.

First conflation at work: sex and gender. They're not the same. You get born with one, you and society make the rest of the other one.
Hormone replacement therapy (HRT) is about replacing hormones lost from menopause, for good medical reasons, for those born female.
Another, associated point.
And another way of putting the same, central, vital point:
gosh. Looks like @MistyGedlinske blocked me, instead of trying to actually argue for her bizarre agitprop claim. I was so looking forward to this, given her 1st play was to try the snob card, mysteriously (I've no idea why she thinks herself more qualified than me on this topic)
all so odd. All this is is a matter of logic & categories. Any squid who could learn to type could do the logic, it's not rocket science. But if you let yourself believe your own agitprop, I guess you get caught flat-footed if someone brings up the logic.
I know it's unreasonable of me to be disappointed. But I was rly looking forward to saying stuff like, "Well, [title] G. [because of the previous snobbery card], as I was working bricklaying, it came to me that you're simply committing a category error, a mistake of category..."

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Apr 24
1/n Ah! I actually have a taker! How very good. 😊
Now, @atwoodsociety, I'm deeply sorry (well, more or less, you know) to inform you that you clearly missed several rather obvious points. Let's go through these points together, shall we? 😇
2/ Now, @atwoodsociety, perhaps you have problems with reading comprehension? You *must* have seen my tweet QT'ed below, and yet you try snarking at me that I'm supposed to be the decider?
Tsk, how terribly uh reading-challenged [diplomacy wins here 😇]
3/ You really *must* know, @atwoodsociety, if you care at all about the area, & you're not just being a troll & pretending, that hormonal & even surgical 'treatment' for transitioners is demanded by many? Under healthcare? Even legislatively, as in #Oregon
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Apr 24
huh.
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I only did the thread to explain a previous thread of mine, because I was so stunned by that paper, & irate. I didn't do it for clicks or PR, and didn't do any pre-planning.
well huh
it was all very impromptu, all unplanned. I had been reminded of that paper by something the previous day on Twitter, so I vented in a small way with a thread. That was without references, so the next day I did the thread QT'ed in the tweet above, to explain.
original start was this thread. I'd read the paper weeks before, it had stuck in my mind, made me aghast, till now I never mentioned it, not thinking anyone else would be interested. But this thread had no references, so I did the 2nd thread a day later
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Apr 23
1/2 Yeah, no, is it actually possible for a 7-kyu player to play so badly against a 4-kyu player that not a single Black group will remain alive at game's end? I guess we'll find out. Yeah, I'm White. Image
2/ yeah, pride goeth before a fall, I spoke too soon, he got no less than two groups alive, one of those being a super-group, since he captured my long White group, top-left corner. Still doesn't help him, so he resigned at this point. Image
3/ If you're a Go newbie, this is how the game would look if played to completion. It would have left me with a winning margin of approximately 158 stones, which is a large margin indeed. You can see why I asked in my first tweet. Image
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Apr 23
Good point. Also bears pointing out contrary to what Dawkins implies, cooperation & altruism must also have a genetically-based neuropsychological foundation in most humans, otherwise we couldn't teach & learn those. "Natural justice", sharing & caring are intuitively understood
A long time back, @S_h_e_e_n_a_, I tried pointing out to others that altruism & cooperation have deep evolutionary roots too; "The Evolution of Co-Operation", by Robert Axelrod, all that sort of thing. Most aren't interested; they only want 'validation' for their whackiness
@S_h_e_e_n_a_ Anyway, given Dawkins' own superficiality and confused muddiness just in the excerpt alone you tweeted, it's understandable why Mary Midgely went after him hammer and tongs, even if she was wrong too.
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Apr 22
1/n Let's talk about butchering a patient to death, for fun & profit, a while. Specifically,
Negenborn VL et al,
Lethal necrotizing cellulitis caused by ESBL-producing E. coli after laparoscopic intestinal vaginoplasty,
doi: 10.1016/j.jpag.2016.09.005
Full ref below Negenborn VL, van der Sluis...
2/n Yes, you rly need to read this paper for yourself. It's paywalled. Well. There are links, but it's not wise to post those. But! here's an archived version of the paper. No idea who archived that, gosh, but here's the link. Now please read it, in full

web.archive.org/web/2023042217…
3/n To death for fun & profit. The (desired) fun bit first. Yes, no doubt the absence of an organ impedes its use for fun. Instead of suggesting, "Learn to accept that", they hit upon "intestinal vaginoplasty", = making a simulacrum of a vagina from intestinal tissue, gut wall. "The absence of a func...
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Apr 22
I have no idea why Anna Richardson responds, "Please moderate your language on a public platform", in reaction to mention of "phalloplasty, hysterectomy & vaginoplasty"; those are the proper medical terms. I'm still personally shocked by one, peer-reviewed(!) paper which was BAD
You read the paper. It's a paper from the op team who carried out a vaginoplasty on a transwoman, in Denmark. The patient died soon after from infection. You read between the lines of the paper; they operated on the intestine to remove part of it for a vaginoplasty. Then...
Then they basically say, yeah the patient died of infection from a bug inside the patient's intestines. Because they missed where they'd also sliced into the intestine in a place they didn't mean to, thus making an open gateway for all bugs from inside the intestine
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