Thread by @PrettyLiesAlibi

Afternoon Thread:

#LoriVallow @LawCrimeNetwork

@LawCrimeNetwork We are back on the record. Lori looks a little "down" to me since we broke for lunch.

#lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork

@LawCrimeNetwork Continuing testimony:

In October he looked at additional location data for Alex's phone. He focused on 10/16-18 where the device left Rexburg and went to Las Vegas. It went to the Comfort Inn in Utah on I-15 and continued to Vegas.

@LawCrimeNetwork Lori had taken a flight from Las Vegas on 11/17/19 (2 days before Tammy's murder) #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork

@LawCrimeNetwork Alex phone pings:
Oct 18, 2019 (Day before Tammy's murder)
7:58-9:32 - Chic-Fil-A Ammaon, ID
10:07-10:45 - Device near LDS church
Gap in data from 10:45-11:53
11:53 PM - travels towards Rexburg passing townhomes and goes towards Daybell residence
11:53 PM - in Rexburg and goes… twitter.com/i/web/status/1…

@LawCrimeNetwork Overhead of the map showing the spot where the phone lingers where the church is. Distance is 2.6 miles between the church and Chad's

#lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork

@LawCrimeNetwork Oct 18, 2019
Overhead of LDS chapel where Alex stayed from 10:07-10:45PM #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork

@LawCrimeNetwork There were 3 dates in Oct Alex's phone went near the Daybell residence
10/9/19 (attempt on Tammy)
10/15/19 - To Chad's 1:41-1:56
10/18/19 (night before Tammy dies) - To LDS church 2.6 mi. from house. No data shows the device going any closer to the house. #lorivallow… twitter.com/i/web/status/1…

@LawCrimeNetwork Direct is over. Mr Thomas is up for cross exam. He starts with his training and education #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork

@LawCrimeNetwork He has been on the case since Nov 2019 until his retirement of August 2021. #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork

@LawCrimeNetwork He brings up Ian Pawlowski. The witness interacted with Ian over the course of a month when Ian had the listening device. #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork

@LawCrimeNetwork He would retrieve the device and give to Det Hermsaillo to extract the contents. #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork

@LawCrimeNetwork Now on to the phone pings - Thomas mentions things being out of the ordinary for Alex's patterns on key dates. He asks how long you look back to see what constitutes a pattern? Witness says if you see something daily for a week you'd say that's a pattern #lorivallow… twitter.com/i/web/status/1…

@LawCrimeNetwork In this case they didn't see many patterns - he wasn't employed so his movements were more random. The witness says he saw in September from when it 1st appeared in ID it went into Lori's apt in the middle of the night on key dates #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork

@LawCrimeNetwork There were other devices being looked at but didn't have the extent of info as this phone did. #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork

@LawCrimeNetwork Thomas points out this is all about Alex and not Lori. Witness says he looked at Alex's pings #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork

@LawCrimeNetwork Thomas mentions the mapping of GPS data and wants to know the software. Witness says a CAST team member was the one putting the data into software #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork

@LawCrimeNetwork The images we saw today came from the mapping software #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork

@LawCrimeNetwork Thomas asks the witness if he put the data into a 2nd software to confirm and he says he doesn't do that. Thomas says you were the case agent, the buck stops with you, and you would have been told? #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork

@LawCrimeNetwork The witness says the CAST analyst used another software to do his report and it did look different than what the witness had #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork

@LawCrimeNetwork 9/23/19 - (JJ's burial)
9:55-10:12 - At Chad's - Thomas says that's not enough time to dig a hole, cut roots, find stones. The witness says he was there when JJ was found &it would have taken more time to dig that #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork

@LawCrimeNetwork On 10/9/19 (attempt on Tammy) do you recall where Lori was? Witness says she was traveling to MO. Thomas then says on 10/19 (Tammy's murder) do you know where Lori was? Witness says Hawaii #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork

@LawCrimeNetwork Lindsey Blake up for redirect: Points out you're talking about the device itself - he says I can't say at all times he had the device. #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork

@LawCrimeNetwork Lindsey Blake brings up would 17 min be enough time for one person to dig the grave. He said not really. She says if more than 1 was involved could it be possible. He says it could be quicker with more people or equipment #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork

@LawCrimeNetwork He says I can't say if it was done prior to the device being on the property at the grave site #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork

@LawCrimeNetwork The state wants a sidebar before they call the next witness #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork

@LawCrimeNetwork Dr Erik Christensen is the next witness. He was the medical examiner for the autopsy on Tammy Daybell. #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork

@LawCrimeNetwork In Utah death certificates are signed by their staff of 10 forensic pathologists. In UT there's no coroner system. #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork

@LawCrimeNetwork He worked in my home state of SC where we implement the coroner system which is elected with very minimal training #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork

@LawCrimeNetwork He was 1st involved in the process of exhuming Tammy was in Nov 2019. #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork

@LawCrimeNetwork They were contacted by Fremont County. He attended the exhumation of Tammy's body all the way to the medical examiner office. #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork

@LawCrimeNetwork Exhumations will happen when DNA maybe wasn't available at the time of death, evaluation of criminal circumstances, etc #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork

@LawCrimeNetwork In his jurisdiction they spend time before and after gathering information such as medical records, police records, interviews, things that help them understand the circumstances of the death. #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork

@LawCrimeNetwork He gives the analogy of seeing your doctor. You don't just get treated, you talk about your symptoms, things like that #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork

@LawCrimeNetwork When exhuming the body it can be planned and helped them to gather information from Fremont CO sheriff and coroner's office from death to when she was released for burial. They got additional info. #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork

@LawCrimeNetwork Exhuming a body is not a common occurrence. At the autopsy, a trainee who is now a pathologist, autopsy staff to take photos/samples, Lt Powell, and others #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork

@LawCrimeNetwork If the body is exhumed it changes how he performs an autopsy. She was embalmed which changes the nature of their tissue - it "fixes" the tissue but also preserves it. Difficult due to stiffness but not impossible. #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork

@LawCrimeNetwork The vault Tammy was in was dry and well maintained with no water damage which can happen. Her embalming was done well and recently which helps. There was mold growth on her body #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork

@LawCrimeNetwork He is now explaining the autopsy process - collecting samples, photos, external exam, internal exam. #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork

@LawCrimeNetwork They take photo with clothing, without, before cleaning, after cleaning, collect trace evidence. They look at the entire body during autopsy to look for disease and collect samples #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork

@LawCrimeNetwork Sometimes they do a layered neck dissection looking for evidence of injury - they don't do this all the time but if the situation warrants it. #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork

@LawCrimeNetwork They look at samples under the microscope since some organs look normal at eye level but disease can be present looking closer. #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork

@LawCrimeNetwork On Tammy they concluded she died by asphyxiation and it was homicide. #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork

@LawCrimeNetwork 5 options for cause of death
Natural
Suicide
Accident
Homicide
Undetermined

#lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork

@LawCrimeNetwork He tells the jury asphyxiation is when a person is deprived of oxygen. It's a broad category - drowning, hanging, smothering, and chemical (carbon monoxide) #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork

@LawCrimeNetwork He didn't see any obvious external injuries that would cause her death. Asphyxia is a diagnosis of exclusion. It's a negative autopsy, no disease or injury evident that would explain why she died. #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork

@LawCrimeNetwork Seizures can cause asphyxia. Tammy had no history but it was relayed she may have had some in days prior to her death. It's rare she would develop them at her age #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork

@LawCrimeNetwork A stroke caused by change in the brain or growth of a brain tumor which can present early on with seizures. Tammy's brain was normal and it was unlikely that was the cause #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork

@LawCrimeNetwork Arrhythmia disorders in the heart can cause sudden death or inherited disorders related to the heart. But people usually have a family history and unusual to occur at her age as it presents in childhood/young adulthood #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork

@LawCrimeNetwork There are many ways someone can be asphyxiated - smothering, neck, chest compression, if you block their ability to breathe by blocking nose/mouth can cause unconsciousness in 10-15 seconds #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork

@LawCrimeNetwork He says toxicology could also cause sudden death. They looked for pesticides, chemical agents. Her toxicology showed therapeutic levels of a medication she had taken for many years. #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork

@LawCrimeNetwork In addition to no abnormal organs or pathological process. She had bruises on her right and left arm and chest. They happened within the hours around her death. It's consistent with someone being restrained and consistent with asphyxia #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork

@LawCrimeNetwork He explains the types of seizures one can have - convulsions or staring spells, abnormal movements of certain parts of the body. #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork

@LawCrimeNetwork They look for tongue injuries from seizures, incontinence, - he calls them "soft signs" not a slam dunk. #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork

@LawCrimeNetwork There was no evidence of seizures outside of the information provided by Chad. #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork

@LawCrimeNetwork He reviewed medical records for Tammy and saw nothing indicating she would be at risk for seizures. #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork

@LawCrimeNetwork He wouldn't expect a sudden onset of heart issues resulting in her death. #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork

@LawCrimeNetwork They can sometimes tell when someone has died from an intoxicant. Opiates for example can slow/stop breathing. Pulmonary edema is a buildup of fluid in the lungs and can come out of the body (nose, mouth) #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork

@LawCrimeNetwork He says you can't test for every possible substance. The lab they use does a broad screening for hundreds of common illicit, OTC, or prescription meds. They also looked for heavy metals, pesticides, nerve agents #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork

@LawCrimeNetwork none of those were found. They did a lot more testing on Tammy than in most cases but it was negative except for what she was prescribed. 2 labs tested her samples. He said it's one the most extensive toxicology he's done due to the circumstances of her death #lorivallow… twitter.com/i/web/status/1…

@LawCrimeNetwork The optimal way to text toxicology is blood but embalming removes the blood. They will use liver samples because it's great for post-mortem testing #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork

@LawCrimeNetwork Her embalming didn't inhibit toxicology testing but it did slow it down. #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork

@LawCrimeNetwork We are about to see some photos of Tammy's autopsy. #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork

@LawCrimeNetwork We are just coming back from our afternoon recess. #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork

@LawCrimeNetwork The jury is back in. We are at a brief sidebar, #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork

@LawCrimeNetwork Lindsey Blake is still on direct. When they began looking at her organs they appeared normal except for changes related to embalming, frothy foam in airway, and fluid in her lungs. #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork

@LawCrimeNetwork They're publishing photos of Tammy deceased in the bed. We see a red/pink foam going from her mouth down the L side of her cheek #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork

@LawCrimeNetwork Pulmonary edema froth comes from the lungs and out of nose or mouth #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork

@LawCrimeNetwork Lori is not looking at the photos #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork

@LawCrimeNetwork Pulmonary edema is NOT a cause of death. #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork

@LawCrimeNetwork It's a manifestation of an underlying cause - OD, drowning, asphyxia #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork

@LawCrimeNetwork This played in part to his finding of asphyxiation #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork

@LawCrimeNetwork He noted bruising that could be indicative of restraint #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork

@LawCrimeNetwork The witness is making markings on a diagram to show where he observed the bruising on Tammy's arms and chest #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork

@LawCrimeNetwork Poor Tammy 💔

@LawCrimeNetwork The diagram has markings that represent bruises on Tammy's arms and chest. There were 6 bruises on the front of her body. On the back there were 4 bruises #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork

@LawCrimeNetwork Bruising:
Left front - bicep and collarbone area
Right - 3 on upper arm, and one on the forearm #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork

@LawCrimeNetwork Bruising on the back - 2 on back of arm behind tricep area & 2 on the back of the forearm #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork

@LawCrimeNetwork No bruising on the lower body #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork

@LawCrimeNetwork They are going to show photos of the bruising taken at autopsy.
#lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork

@LawCrimeNetwork A couple will not be on the big screen - I think they're revealing in the chest area. #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork

@LawCrimeNetwork A purple looking bruise is shown on screen. 2nd photo shows the cluster of bruises #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork

@LawCrimeNetwork Back of R forearm shows round bruises. #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork

@LawCrimeNetwork I am no medical examiner but these look like bruises from a hand #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork

@LawCrimeNetwork They made an incision in the arm showing hemorrhage and took a tissue sample of the area #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork

@LawCrimeNetwork They show the sample they took from her arm. It shows the injury progression. Hemorrhage is the initial stage. All of the bruisings showed only hemorrhage which means they were prior to her death. Once circulation stops it doesn't hemorrhage #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork

@LawCrimeNetwork He points out the hemorrhage on the screen. Subcutaneous fat is normally yellow - this is dark showing bleeding. #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork

@LawCrimeNetwork Photo of sample taken from her right forearm. You see bright yellow subcutaneous fat but also bleeding which meant it was a fresh bruise. #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork

@LawCrimeNetwork They're not admitting some photos but will show the closeup of the skin once the sample has been taken and showing bleeding. There was no inflammatory response with any of these so that told him these were fresh. #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork

@LawCrimeNetwork He noticed lividity which is a normal post mortem change where after circulation ceases the blood settles into the lowest portion of the body assisted by gravity - starts 60-90 min after death. #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork

@LawCrimeNetwork He says if they lay on their back a couple of hours and then were rolled over it would redistribute to the front side. Over time - say 12 instead of 2 there isn't redistribution of the blood because it's fixed #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork

@LawCrimeNetwork Shortly after death lividity can go away entirely if moved but not as much as time passes #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork

@LawCrimeNetwork He is now explaining rigor mortis (stiffening) over time it is fully developed 12 hours after death and will stay stiff until decomposition begins. #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork

@LawCrimeNetwork Lividity, rigor mortis, body temp can help narrow a window for a time of death but the longer someone is dead it's harder to get a time frame. #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork

@LawCrimeNetwork Tammy's death was reported just before 6AM and was described as being stiff and cold. That told him - OBJECTION - sustained (he wasn't there the morning of her death) #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork

@LawCrimeNetwork He relies on other's observations to determine a timeline of death. With rigor mortis, that's at least an hour or two and maybe longer they've been dead. He says he doesn't think it was 5:30-5:45 AM but earlier #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork

@LawCrimeNetwork The bruises played into his cause of death since it's consistent to being restrained. #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork

@LawCrimeNetwork Lindsey Blake is finished with direct. They're going to show the jury the photos that weren't put on the big screen. We saw the close-ups of them. #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork

@LawCrimeNetwork Did a diagram to give you an idea of where the bruising was. Not perfect but you get the idea #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork

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