🇺🇦 Dave Burton ❌

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@EthonRaptor @TopAlliedAceWW1 @BenjaminYumi8 @JimBlack48 @AndersBrunstad2 @Anvndarnamn5 @Michael_D_Crow @fischerfischy @Climatehope2 @ammocrypta @Willard1951 @periodicaudio @priscian @JusticeTrudeau @BJChippindale @andrewmac71 @WernerReinhard5 @glinch72 @S_D_Mannix @Jaisans @DenisDaly @stitchnstab @CarrudoDon @Veritatem2021 @LiveLifeBK24 @BenKoby1911 @TheDisproof @AristotleMrs @Joeyd87745119 @Mark_A_Lunn @Devonian1342 @Data79504085 @Hji45519156 @waxliberty @SuperFoxyLoxy @ChrisBBacon3 @JaapTitulaer @wjack76995 @Rocky35418823 @NobaconEgbert @balls95652097 @JustThi30117912 @SniemN @BointonGiles @SeekerTheGreat1 @ubique60 @CDMarshall7 @RMcgillss @paligap17 @MaggieL 1/8》If you change the temperature offset to something other than zero, then an additional field appears: "Holding Fixed: water vapor pressure / relative humidity". That's how you can estimate the size of water vapor feedback: "fixed relative humidity" = "including WV feedback."

@EthonRaptor @TopAlliedAceWW1 @BenjaminYumi8 @JimBlack48 @AndersBrunstad2 @Anvndarnamn5 @Michael_D_Crow @fischerfischy @Climatehope2 @ammocrypta @Willard1951 @periodicaudio @priscian @JusticeTrudeau @BJChippindale @andrewmac71 @WernerReinhard5 @glinch72 @S_D_Mannix @Jaisans @DenisDaly @stitchnstab @CarrudoDon @Veritatem2021 @LiveLifeBK24 @BenKoby1911 @TheDisproof @AristotleMrs @Joeyd87745119 @Mark_A_Lunn @Devonian1342 @Data79504085 @Hji45519156 @waxliberty @SuperFoxyLoxy @ChrisBBacon3 @JaapTitulaer @wjack76995 @Rocky35418823 @NobaconEgbert @balls95652097 @JustThi30117912 @SniemN @BointonGiles @SeekerTheGreat1 @ubique60 @CDMarshall7 @RMcgillss @paligap17 @MaggieL 2/8》Here's how to use MODTRAN to estimate equilibrium climate sensitivity (ECS) to a doubling of CO2.

Step #1:
CO2=400, Temp offset=0 → Upward IR 298.520 W/m²
CO2=600, Temp offset=0 → Upward IR 296.573 W/m²

Note: 50% CO2 increase = 58.5% of a doubling
google.com/search?q=log2(…

@EthonRaptor @TopAlliedAceWW1 @BenjaminYumi8 @JimBlack48 @AndersBrunstad2 @Anvndarnamn5 @Michael_D_Crow @fischerfischy @Climatehope2 @ammocrypta @Willard1951 @periodicaudio @priscian @JusticeTrudeau @BJChippindale @andrewmac71 @WernerReinhard5 @glinch72 @S_D_Mannix @Jaisans @DenisDaly @stitchnstab @CarrudoDon @Veritatem2021 @LiveLifeBK24 @BenKoby1911 @TheDisproof @AristotleMrs @Joeyd87745119 @Mark_A_Lunn @Devonian1342 @Data79504085 @Hji45519156 @waxliberty @SuperFoxyLoxy @ChrisBBacon3 @JaapTitulaer @wjack76995 @Rocky35418823 @NobaconEgbert @balls95652097 @JustThi30117912 @SniemN @BointonGiles @SeekerTheGreat1 @ubique60 @CDMarshall7 @RMcgillss @paligap17 @MaggieL 3/8》Step #2:

Then adjust Temp offset to restore Upward IR to 298.520.
(It'll take a few tries.)

With constant WV pressure,
T offset for Upward IR of 298.520 = 0.438 to 0.444, midpoint 0.441°C

That's 58.5% of direct warming from doubling CO2, before feedbacks.

@EthonRaptor @TopAlliedAceWW1 @BenjaminYumi8 @JimBlack48 @AndersBrunstad2 @Anvndarnamn5 @Michael_D_Crow @fischerfischy @Climatehope2 @ammocrypta @Willard1951 @periodicaudio @priscian @JusticeTrudeau @BJChippindale @andrewmac71 @WernerReinhard5 @glinch72 @S_D_Mannix @Jaisans @DenisDaly @stitchnstab @CarrudoDon @Veritatem2021 @LiveLifeBK24 @BenKoby1911 @TheDisproof @AristotleMrs @Joeyd87745119 @Mark_A_Lunn @Devonian1342 @Data79504085 @Hji45519156 @waxliberty @SuperFoxyLoxy @ChrisBBacon3 @JaapTitulaer @wjack76995 @Rocky35418823 @NobaconEgbert @balls95652097 @JustThi30117912 @SniemN @BointonGiles @SeekerTheGreat1 @ubique60 @CDMarshall7 @RMcgillss @paligap17 @MaggieL 4/8》Step #3:

Change "Holding Fixed" to "relative humidity," and again adjust Temp offset to restore Upward IR to 298.520.

T offset needed for Upward IR of 298.520 = 0.702 to 0.713, midpoint 0.7075°C

That's 58.5% of ECS warming from doubling CO2, including WV feedback.

@EthonRaptor @TopAlliedAceWW1 @BenjaminYumi8 @JimBlack48 @AndersBrunstad2 @Anvndarnamn5 @Michael_D_Crow @fischerfischy @Climatehope2 @ammocrypta @Willard1951 @periodicaudio @priscian @JusticeTrudeau @BJChippindale @andrewmac71 @WernerReinhard5 @glinch72 @S_D_Mannix @Jaisans @DenisDaly @stitchnstab @CarrudoDon @Veritatem2021 @LiveLifeBK24 @BenKoby1911 @TheDisproof @AristotleMrs @Joeyd87745119 @Mark_A_Lunn @Devonian1342 @Data79504085 @Hji45519156 @waxliberty @SuperFoxyLoxy @ChrisBBacon3 @JaapTitulaer @wjack76995 @Rocky35418823 @NobaconEgbert @balls95652097 @JustThi30117912 @SniemN @BointonGiles @SeekerTheGreat1 @ubique60 @CDMarshall7 @RMcgillss @paligap17 @MaggieL 5/8》From that you can calculate an estimate of ECS (equilibrium climate sensitivity to a doubling of CO2):

0.7075 / 0.58 = 1.22 °C/doubling.

That doesn't include the effects of other feedbacks, but most of those are negative (attenuating).

sealevel.info/feedbacks.html…

@EthonRaptor @TopAlliedAceWW1 @BenjaminYumi8 @JimBlack48 @AndersBrunstad2 @Anvndarnamn5 @Michael_D_Crow @fischerfischy @Climatehope2 @ammocrypta @Willard1951 @periodicaudio @priscian @JusticeTrudeau @BJChippindale @andrewmac71 @WernerReinhard5 @glinch72 @S_D_Mannix @Jaisans @DenisDaly @stitchnstab @CarrudoDon @Veritatem2021 @LiveLifeBK24 @BenKoby1911 @TheDisproof @AristotleMrs @Joeyd87745119 @Mark_A_Lunn @Devonian1342 @Data79504085 @Hji45519156 @waxliberty @SuperFoxyLoxy @ChrisBBacon3 @JaapTitulaer @wjack76995 @Rocky35418823 @NobaconEgbert @balls95652097 @JustThi30117912 @SniemN @BointonGiles @SeekerTheGreat1 @ubique60 @CDMarshall7 @RMcgillss @paligap17 @MaggieL 6/8》From the "with WV feedback" (0.7075°C) and "without WV feedback" (0.441°C) warming figures, you can calculate the amplification resulting from water vapor feedback:

(0.7075 / 0.441) = 1.6043

So MODTRAN estimates that water vapor feedback adds 60% to warming from CO2.

@EthonRaptor @TopAlliedAceWW1 @BenjaminYumi8 @JimBlack48 @AndersBrunstad2 @Anvndarnamn5 @Michael_D_Crow @fischerfischy @Climatehope2 @ammocrypta @Willard1951 @periodicaudio @priscian @JusticeTrudeau @BJChippindale @andrewmac71 @WernerReinhard5 @glinch72 @S_D_Mannix @Jaisans @DenisDaly @stitchnstab @CarrudoDon @Veritatem2021 @LiveLifeBK24 @BenKoby1911 @TheDisproof @AristotleMrs @Joeyd87745119 @Mark_A_Lunn @Devonian1342 @Data79504085 @Hji45519156 @waxliberty @SuperFoxyLoxy @ChrisBBacon3 @JaapTitulaer @wjack76995 @Rocky35418823 @NobaconEgbert @balls95652097 @JustThi30117912 @SniemN @BointonGiles @SeekerTheGreat1 @ubique60 @CDMarshall7 @RMcgillss @paligap17 @MaggieL 7/8》That's net, after "compounding." From it we can estimate the feedback coefficient, ƒ:
⋆ sealevel.info/feedbacks.html…
⋆ sealevel.info/linear_feedbac…

1/(1-ƒ) = 1.6043
so
ƒ = 1 - (1/1.6043) = 0.3767

@EthonRaptor @TopAlliedAceWW1 @BenjaminYumi8 @JimBlack48 @AndersBrunstad2 @Anvndarnamn5 @Michael_D_Crow @fischerfischy @Climatehope2 @ammocrypta @Willard1951 @periodicaudio @priscian @JusticeTrudeau @BJChippindale @andrewmac71 @WernerReinhard5 @glinch72 @S_D_Mannix @Jaisans @DenisDaly @stitchnstab @CarrudoDon @Veritatem2021 @LiveLifeBK24 @BenKoby1911 @TheDisproof @AristotleMrs @Joeyd87745119 @Mark_A_Lunn @Devonian1342 @Data79504085 @Hji45519156 @waxliberty @SuperFoxyLoxy @ChrisBBacon3 @JaapTitulaer @wjack76995 @Rocky35418823 @NobaconEgbert @balls95652097 @JustThi30117912 @SniemN @BointonGiles @SeekerTheGreat1 @ubique60 @CDMarshall7 8/8》Did you realize that you could do all that from U. Chicago's MODTRAN interface, Eli?

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@KCTaz @EthonRaptor @bomac_macbo @ProfMickWilson @Data79504085 @Hji45519156 @BlasphemousBan1 @FD2you @DawnTJ90 @BradPKeyes @Callan23474387 @Mark_A_Lunn @AristotleMrs @0Sundance @TheDisproof @BointonGiles @DoesThisW0rk @3GHtweets @Climatehope2 @Jaisans @S_D_Mannix @glinch72 @TWTThisIsNow @JustThi30117912 @paulp1232 @MartinJBern @Willard1951 @ShroedingerBird @ammocrypta @ChrisBBacon3 @B_Bolshevik100 @rosmadiwahab @Robert76907841 @Anvndarnamn5 @EricWil06256732 @FillmoreWhite @TommyLambertOKC @RobMeekel @JohnDublin10 @Veritatem2021 @NoTricksZone @RoelofBoer @DawnJT90 @DawnTj9 @PeterDClack @FriendsOScience @Kenneth72712993 @wattsupwiththat @AlexEpstein 1/15」KCTaz wrote to Eli, "So, you agree Earth is not warming."

Actually, Eli didn't mention or allude to temperatures (this time).

@KCTaz @EthonRaptor @bomac_macbo @ProfMickWilson @Data79504085 @Hji45519156 @BlasphemousBan1 @FD2you @DawnTJ90 @BradPKeyes @Callan23474387 @Mark_A_Lunn @AristotleMrs @0Sundance @TheDisproof @BointonGiles @DoesThisW0rk @3GHtweets @Climatehope2 @Jaisans @S_D_Mannix @glinch72 @TWTThisIsNow @JustThi30117912 @paulp1232 @MartinJBern @Willard1951 @ShroedingerBird @ammocrypta @ChrisBBacon3 @B_Bolshevik100 @rosmadiwahab @Robert76907841 @Anvndarnamn5 @EricWil06256732 @FillmoreWhite @TommyLambertOKC @RobMeekel @JohnDublin10 @Veritatem2021 @NoTricksZone @RoelofBoer @DawnJT90 @DawnTj9 @PeterDClack @FriendsOScience @Kenneth72712993 @wattsupwiththat @AlexEpstein 2/15」Eli wrote, "That's L'Chatelier's fallacy."

Wrong. Le Chatelier's Principle should inform your intuition to EXPECT negative feedbacks. But OBSERVATION confirms it: all of the most important carbon feedbacks are very strongly negative / attenuating.
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@KCTaz @EthonRaptor @bomac_macbo @ProfMickWilson @Data79504085 @Hji45519156 @BlasphemousBan1 @FD2you @DawnTJ90 @BradPKeyes @Callan23474387 @Mark_A_Lunn @AristotleMrs @0Sundance @TheDisproof @BointonGiles @DoesThisW0rk @3GHtweets @Climatehope2 @Jaisans @S_D_Mannix @glinch72 @TWTThisIsNow @JustThi30117912 @paulp1232 @MartinJBern @Willard1951 @ShroedingerBird @ammocrypta @ChrisBBacon3 @B_Bolshevik100 @rosmadiwahab @Robert76907841 @Anvndarnamn5 @EricWil06256732 @FillmoreWhite @TommyLambertOKC @RobMeekel @JohnDublin10 @Veritatem2021 @NoTricksZone @RoelofBoer @DawnJT90 @DawnTj9 @PeterDClack @FriendsOScience @Kenneth72712993 @wattsupwiththat @AlexEpstein 3/15」Eli wrote, "The position of the equilibrium only shifts PART WAY to oppose the change"

"Part way" to WHAT?

There's nothing "part way" about the fact that carbon feedbacks are strongly negative.

At current emission rates, CO2 would plateau between 500 & 550 ppmv.

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