Thread by @jojoonthescene

Good Morning!
We are week 4 day 2 of #LoriVallowDaybellTrial . Should be an interesting day. I’ll keep ya posted on here :)
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Yesterday Melani and Ian Pawlowski were seen walking into the courthouse in the evening. I expect at least Melani will testify sometime later today or this week.

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Lori returns back to her table. She is talking with Archibald and going over documents.

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Judge Boyce has arrived and called for the jury. Dr Christiansen is on stand waiting to resume yesterdays testimony with Defense on cross.

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Thomas comes up and begins cross examination with Dr. Christiansen.

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Dr Christiansen admits that he knows that Tammy was into doing things the homeopathic route with vitamins and essential oils. He ruled out that both of those were not contributing to her death.

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No further questions for cross.

State for the redirect.

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Dr Christiansen explains to the court the difference between a coroner and medical examiner. Medical examiner would have a more accurate and in depth review of an autopsy than a coroner.
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No further questions. Dr. Christiansen is excused from the witness stand.

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State calls back Dept. Bruce Mattingly to the stand. He works for the Fremont PD.

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Detective Mattingly was called out to the Daybell residence the morning of Tammy’s death.

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He testifies that he was aware of the suspicious call involving the paintball gone at the house. He was not involved in the incident however.

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Mattingly was involved in the death investigation of Tammy’s mid December. He was aware of the search for Tylee and JJ and a shooting at Brandon Boudreaux. He assisted in the search for the kids as well.

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Det. Mattingly retrieved the medical records of Tammy Daybell. He did not see any seizurei like activity, fainting or being weak. It did not correspond with what Chad was saying.

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Det. Mattingly retrieved data from a Fitbit that Tammy wore. He was able to see sleep patterns, heart rate, steps. She was perfectly healthy and in good shape. No signs of heart rate issues.

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Data from Fitbit is being shown on screen for the court. Fitbit information Tammy’s steps was above average. No slow down in actives.

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Mattingly did say that Tammy did have life insurance. Documents from that are being approved to show to court.

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No further questions from the state.
Archibald come up for the cross.

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Archibald asked if Detective Mattingly knew if Lori was in Rexburg on October 19th. Mattingly responded that he learned she was in Hawaii at the time.

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Cross has no further questions.
State asks for sidebar

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We resume with the state on redirect.
Mattingly confirms that the insurance did payout and it was made to Chad Daybell.
State has no further questions.
Mattingly is excused

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State calls Alice Gilbert to the stand. She attended church with the Daybell’s. She was closer with Tammy.

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Gilbert and Tammy would get together once a week outside of Sundays. She did not complain of any health issues. Gilbert did not notice any marriage problems.

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She went to the Daybell House the day that Tammy passed. The children were visibly upset and in shock. Chad seemed like a grieving spouse.

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Sometime later that day Gilbert returned to the house. She learned that the viewing would be on Tuesday and the memorial would be on Wednesday. She found that odd that it was all pulled together so quickly.
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Gilbert point blank asked Chad “Did you plan this”, Chad responded with a quick nooo.

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Gilbert had a conversation with Daybell saying he couldn’t be at the house anymore that he was moving in with a friend. She assumed it was a male friend as he was referring the roommate to a he/him.

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Gilbert also had a conversation with Emma Daybell days after Tammy’s passing. She was very upset and said that Chad didn’t want anything to do with his children anymore.

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Gilbert reached out to Chad to have a visit with him. She insisted on coming to his new place but he was determined to go to her house for the visit. She was shocked at seeing how well Chad was doing.

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He spoke of his friend that was grieving the loss of her spouse as well. Lori wasn’t with Chad at the visit but in the following days Chad brought Lori to Gilbert’s house for a visit.

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Gilbert said they were acting like teenagers and that Chad had his arm around her. She has never seen Chad be this affectionate with Tammy. That visit was October 26. Just 8 days after Tammy passed.

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Chad mentioned of going to Southern California with his children and Lori in November.

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Chad and Lori visited one other time after they were married and showed her wedding photos. She was in shock that it happened so quickly. She said they were married around 2 weeks after the death of Tammy.

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After Lori’s arrest Chad came back to the Gilbert home and visited. He asked if he could move in with them, saying his house was too crowded. They recently had their daughter move back in so they declined.

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Chad then asked for help posting bond for Lori and they said they would think about it.

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Gilbert overheard Chad telling someone “They think I killed my wife”. They meaning Alice Gilbert and her husband.
State has no further questions. Archibald up for cross.

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Archibald asked Gilbert if The Daybell’s talked about the end of times. She replied that they both did but Chad was over the top interested with the topic and loved talking about it.

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No further questions for the defense.
Redirect.

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Gilbert states that both Chad and Lori were equally affectionate with each other. Did not hide it. No further questions

Gilbert is excused.

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State calls Todd Gilbert. He is married to Alice Gilbert. He knew Chad as an author at first and then became friends. He was closer to Chad.

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Gilbert states would see Chad outside of church sometimes. He did read some of his books. At first he was sharing his visions/beliefs and then it turned to more teaching.

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February 2019 Chad confided in Todd saying that “I don’t know if I should tell you this or not but I received a vision of Tammy passing away soon”. He thought it was odd and kinda disturbing.

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Todd and his wife found it odd that they had everything planned out for the funeral that afternoon.

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Todd said to Chad “Well I guess it happened” referring to the vision. Chad turned away from his children and said “yes it did”. He thought the children must not have known about the vision.

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2-3 days after the Memorial service Todd reached out to Chad to come by for a visit. During the visit he revealed he already ad a girlfriend. Tammy had just passed the week prior.

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When Todd met Lori and asked how many children she had she said “many”. He couldn’t get a straight answer from her regarding how many children she actually had.

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He found it odd that Chad used the words of “didn’t” when referring to Lori’s daughter Tylee. He had a bad feeling about that response and wondered why he referred to her as past tense.

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We break for lunch.

We resume with Todd Gilbert on the witness stand for cross examination.

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Todd said that Chad’s books were fiction based but observing Chad he thinks Chad was wanting people to believe some of his books were real.

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Chad actually named a character in one of his book series after Gilbert and named him Gilbert. Todd said he was flattered when Chad approached him with the news of naming a character after him.

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Gilbert said Daybell’s books were about the end of the world and the trying times when Christ would return for his chosen people.

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Archibald asked Gilbert when Christ were to return it would be a joyous time and not a scary time like Daybell was describing in the books. Gilbert responded with “Correct”.

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Lori is smiling with her tilted sideways as Gilbert recalls memories he had with Daybell.

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Defense wants a podcast with Lori, Melanie Gibb and Jason Mow played for the court.
They want the full podcast played for the court it is one hour and 48 mins long. The prosecution does not want it played.
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Defense thinks it would be helpful to the court to understand the background and where everyone was at/thinking at the time. They would be willing to just play the first 40 minutes of it instead of the full.
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Judge Boyce has determined that Mr. Gilbert will provide that podcast is authentic and the first 40 minutes of the podcast will be played for the court.
I have a feeling we are in for a wild ride with this
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Lori is sitting back in her chair with a smile on her face while the portion of the Fuel The Fire podcast is played for the jury and court. Jury seems very interested and taking notes.

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Podcast audio quality is awful.Barely make out what they are saying, the sound of screeching animals in the background. I thought the audio trial was bad.Don’t know how people listened to this for 2 hrs.
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Lots of talk of Jesus Christ the Savior saved them, they will follow. Visions of battlefields,heaven and hell. I’ve listened to spiritual podcast before but this one is giving me a very erie vibe.
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Several jurors are seen writing notes as quick as they can to catch everything that is being said on the podcast.

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Lori looked annoyed when the prosecution objected again cause the podcast to be stopped right when not came to her part of the podcast. When we return from break we’ll see if Lori’s part will be played.

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Walking behind Larry Woodcock seeing him give Detective Hermosillo knuckles and a big ol’ chuckle might be the highlight of my afternoon. God, I love that man.

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Still waiting Judge Boyce to come back from reviewing Lori’s audio section to see if it will be played for us.

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Audio being playing of Lori on podcast.
She is talking very fast and giggling on the podcast. She quotes that she too has seen Jesus Christ. That she was a warrior and she was to FIGHT.

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That the time is NOW. That we must turn our life’s to Christ.
Very much reminds me of televangelist with the amount of urgency and passion she is speaking with.

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She is talking about her visions and her personal messages from angel Moroni and Jesus Christ.

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Podcast has concluded being played.
Melanie Gibb, Lori Vallow, Thor and Jason Mow was all identified voices by Gilbert.

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More than once Todd Gilbert was told by Chad that he was visited by Tammy herself in visions saying that it was ok to marry Lori and that he needed to move forward in life.

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No further questions from Defense.
Redirect.

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Gilbert acknowledges that when Chad and Lori would attend services they would sit in the back of the church and leave when service was over.

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No further questions in redirect.
Mr. Gilbert is excused and we are adjourned for today.

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