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@LawCrimeNetwork We have a black table set up in the court room where I assume they will place the weapons found in Alex's townhome #lorivallow
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@LawCrimeNetwork They will bring the firearms in for the detective to identify. Judge Boyce explains to the jury the weapons are unloaded, safety on, etc. #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork
@LawCrimeNetwork I saw Melaniece's attorney here. Not sure if she will be up today or not. #lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork
@LawCrimeNetwork The guns are in. The witness steps down to look at the weapons for identification.#lorivallow @LawCrimeNetwork
@LawCrimeNetwork There's also baffles and solvent traps (used to make suppressors) #LoriVallow @LawCrimeNetwork
@LawCrimeNetwork The detective steps down to where the weapons are. Lindsey Blake asks about a hopper (where the paintballs are stored on a paintball gun) The scope is large on this and could be mistaken for a hopper #LoriVallow @LawCrimeNetwork
@LawCrimeNetwork 10/19/19 - Tammy's murder
He asks how many detectives in their division and he says it was him and another person - Det Mattingly.
He didn't talk to the coroners. He did NOT make the call no other investigation would happen. #LoriVallow @LawCrimeNetwork
He asks how many detectives in their division and he says it was him and another person - Det Mattingly.
He didn't talk to the coroners. He did NOT make the call no other investigation would happen. #LoriVallow @LawCrimeNetwork
@LawCrimeNetwork When Fremont Co got involved they were asked to find the Jeep in the attempt on Brandon. The witness is asked if they found any shell casings in the attempt on Brandon and the witness doesn't know. #LoriVallow @LawCrimeNetwork
@LawCrimeNetwork Thomas is essentially trying to find out how much info is shared in "joint investigations" with different agencies. #LoriVallow @LawCrimeNetwork
@LawCrimeNetwork They show the email Tammy wrote to her son Mark. Mr Thomas says the email is 3 pages long. 1st page is to someone named Shirley and it's about church stuff. Thomas asks how that got put in with this. He doesn't know. #LoriVallow @LawCrimeNetwork
@LawCrimeNetwork The 2nd page is Tammy saying someone stole a neighbor's dog. (The neighbor got it back and went into labor). #LoriVallow @LawCrimeNetwork
@LawCrimeNetwork Mr Price's theory is the crazy dog lady came back to steal the dogs again. The dog lady's husband is who Mr Price was saying could be the person with the gun. #LoriVallow @LawCrimeNetwork
@LawCrimeNetwork The witness didn't talk to the man whose wife stole the dog. Thomas says you didn't follow up on it? Witness says no. Thomas says "Hmm" #LoriVallow @LawCrimeNetwork
@LawCrimeNetwork Tammy writes I think I was a bit in shock because I said what do you think you're doing. I realized it was a paintball gun with a hopper on it. He pulled the trigger while pointing the gun at me. I was more annoyed than scared at that point #LoriVallow @LawCrimeNetwork
@LawCrimeNetwork He was standing between me and the door. He didn't say anything or move towards me. #LoriVallow @LawCrimeNetwork
@LawCrimeNetwork Thomas asks if he followed up with how close the man was to Tammy. He said he didn't investigate this. Thomas said you didn't follow up and the witness said "I didn't have the chance to talk to Tammy Daybell when I came on this case". #LoriVallow @LawCrimeNetwork
@LawCrimeNetwork He's asked if this kind of gun makes a wooshing sound and he says if it has a suppressor on it and a special bullet for guns with suppressors. #LoriVallow @LawCrimeNetwork
@LawCrimeNetwork They found some reloading equipment but no subsonic bullets or casings. #LoriVallow @LawCrimeNetwork
@LawCrimeNetwork The click could be from malfunctioning but you don't hear the "woosh" in that case. #LoriVallow @LawCrimeNetwork
@LawCrimeNetwork The casing could eject and go in the area where the person shot it. If the gun malfunctions the projectile can stay in the gun and you'd hear the clicking sound #LoriVallow @LawCrimeNetwork
@LawCrimeNetwork He wasn't at the search warrant in Jan 2020 looking for casings with metal detectors. #LoriVallow @LawCrimeNetwork
@LawCrimeNetwork They found none (but if it malfunctioned and didn't eject you wouldn't have a casing). #LoriVallow @LawCrimeNetwork
@LawCrimeNetwork Back to the email - The thought crossed my mind to hit him with my clogging shoes but I called Chad. He ran off. I got dad and Garth. They looked outside and we called police" They say it may be the teen who is bi-polar and then Matt Price's theory. #LoriVallow @LawCrimeNetwork
@LawCrimeNetwork They talked to people in the neighborhood about the "Bi-polar" teen and it ended up he actually had autism and he lived further away than thought. #LoriVallow @LawCrimeNetwork
@LawCrimeNetwork Thomas says you didn't follow up with people it could have been? He says they talked to the Price's and that was it. #LoriVallow @LawCrimeNetwork
@LawCrimeNetwork Thomas brings up the Google searches by Alex about the Grendel drops on October 8-9, 2019. Thomas asks when the gun was bought. He doesn't know but lists agents who would. #LoriVallow @LawCrimeNetwork
@LawCrimeNetwork Thomas asks if it would be uncommon for someone to search for those things if you own a gun like that. The witness says depends on what you're going to use it for. #LoriVallow @LawCrimeNetwork
@LawCrimeNetwork Thomas asks 6.5 grendel drop from 100-200 yards means your bullet will drop a bit. With your scope you have to dial that in to help with accuracy when firing. #LoriVallow @LawCrimeNetwork
@LawCrimeNetwork Thomas is trying to tie the searches in with just being the gun owner curious about certain things. On the 10th was all the searches about using the AR in the cold. Thomas asks if there were searches for other things? #LoriVallow @LawCrimeNetwork
@LawCrimeNetwork The witness says he can go into what else he searched for. #LoriVallow @LawCrimeNetwork
@LawCrimeNetwork Thomas wants ALL searches from Alex.
Witness says pornography and things that weren't appropriate to bring in
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Witness says pornography and things that weren't appropriate to bring in
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@LawCrimeNetwork 10/12 was the searches for the Dodge Dakota and the witness says Alex was searching for similar things such as pornography #LoriVallow @LawCrimeNetwork
@LawCrimeNetwork Thomas says you didn't investigate and you don't know who investigated the autistic teen or husband who stole to dog and nobody talked to anyone at the shooting range who may have saw Alex there #LoriVallow @LawCrimeNetwork
@LawCrimeNetwork Now on to the GeoFence warrant for the church and Daybell residence. They did a 150 m perimeter in any direction. #LoriVallow @LawCrimeNetwork
@LawCrimeNetwork Thomas asks if the witness bothered to see how many feet 150 m is. There's an objection. Sustained. Alex's phone was within 150 m of the GeoFence at the church #LoriVallow @LawCrimeNetwork
@LawCrimeNetwork The phone showed WiFi hits off the backside of the church. #LoriVallow @LawCrimeNetwork
@LawCrimeNetwork Redirect - When the witness called the coroner the day Tammy was killed Det Mattingly had already talked to her. He asked if anything was suspicious and she said no. #LoriVallow @LawCrimeNetwork
@LawCrimeNetwork The detective is saying he knew of JJ back in October 2019. Lindsey Blake is trying to gently walk him through to show him that's not correct #LoriVallow @LawCrimeNetwork
@LawCrimeNetwork Blake has the witness say that the reason the email was attached to the one Tammy sent Mark and that happens with these phone extractions. She asks if an autistic teen or dog thief sounds logical of who shot at Tammy and he said no. #LoriVallow @LawCrimeNetwork
@LawCrimeNetwork They get no reports of masked gunmen in the area of the Daybell home. In Tammy's email she said it was night time. There was a flashing yellow light and that was the only one around the area #LoriVallow @LawCrimeNetwork
@LawCrimeNetwork Blake asks if that gun is threaded for a suppressor and the witness says yes. She asks if that would change the sounds and he says yes. #LoriVallow @LawCrimeNetwork
@LawCrimeNetwork Blake asks why he didn't talk to Tammy about the attempt and asks if that's because she was killed 10 days later and he says yes #LoriVallow @LawCrimeNetwork
@LawCrimeNetwork Alex's searches were for transgender and pornography
@LawCrimeNetwork We are going to hear a motion outside the presence of the jury. 1 is about the guns admitted. ID law says bulky evidence can be entered in by using photographs. #LoriVallow @LawCrimeNetwork
@LawCrimeNetwork Both sides stipulate to that but the defense asks if the state would not use this numbered exhibit in Chad's trial. Blake said they will make sure the number is different #LoriVallow @LawCrimeNetwork
@LawCrimeNetwork The next matter is a request about 1 or more witnesses Archibald believes there may have been violations of the exclusionary rule #LoriVallow @LawCrimeNetwork
@LawCrimeNetwork Next witness will be Ian Pawlowski. The defense received info Melaniece listened to testimony, read articles, all in contradiction to the rule. They are married and came together with attorneys. #LoriVallow @LawCrimeNetwork
@LawCrimeNetwork Ian had violated the rule by talking to melaniece and she admitted she violated the rule. #LoriVallow @LawCrimeNetwork
@LawCrimeNetwork Thomas asks to conduct an inquiry and decide what to do. The state says there's no indication that IAN has reviewed or observed any testimony in the case. #LoriVallow @LawCrimeNetwork
@LawCrimeNetwork Archibald says we don't think we will get to Melaniece today. They will have to deal with her later. Ian will be on the stand at 2:40 #LoriVallow @LawCrimeNetwork
@LawCrimeNetwork We are back in session. Waiting on the jury and Ian Pawlowski to come in #LoriVallow @LawCrimeNetwork
@LawCrimeNetwork Judge Boyce explains witnesses cannot listen to other witness testimony. The concern was brought up by the state. #LoriVallow @LawCrimeNetwork
@LawCrimeNetwork Ian says she hasn't watched, but when Brandon testified she read a headline and had concerns about it. He said it wasn't anything of substance. #LoriVallow @LawCrimeNetwork
@LawCrimeNetwork Ian hasn't watched anything. He has seen headlines as he scrolled but nothing more #LoriVallow @LawCrimeNetwork
@LawCrimeNetwork Archibald is up for the defense. They've been married 3.5 years. He asks if he was in the meeting when Melaniece was in a meeting with the FBI and Lindsey Blake - he was not. They live in Mesa, AZ now. #LoriVallow @LawCrimeNetwork
@LawCrimeNetwork They got here on Monday. He and Melaniece talked about the case. Melaniece said "The nail is already in Lori's coffin" Objection by the state. #LoriVallow @LawCrimeNetwork
@LawCrimeNetwork When asked why he brought an attorney he said this is complicated and he felt better. He was here previously with Zulema #LoriVallow @LawCrimeNetwork
@LawCrimeNetwork Archibald says your attorney didn't tell you anything his other client (Zulema) testified to. #LoriVallow @LawCrimeNetwork
@LawCrimeNetwork He talked to Agt Doug Hart and Lindsey Blake and they discussed the testimony he would be giving. #LoriVallow @LawCrimeNetwork
@LawCrimeNetwork Ian asks if he knows Lori and he says he met her after he began dating Melani Pawlowski, Lori's niece. #LORIVALLOW @LawCrimeNetwork
@LawCrimeNetwork He knows Chad and says Chad is married to Lori. He met them both in person for the 1st time. They met at the townhome next to Melani's. #LORIVALLOW @LawCrimeNetwork
@LawCrimeNetwork He learned Melani's relationship with Lori and Chad was close and supportive. He went to Lori and Chad to ask permission to marry Melani #LORIVALLOW @LawCrimeNetwork
@LawCrimeNetwork He saw Lori less than a dozen times in person and fewer for Chad. #LORIVALLOW @LawCrimeNetwork
@LawCrimeNetwork He talked to Lori without Chad present. Lori talked about her religious beliefs. She discussed possession, locking satan away.
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@LawCrimeNetwork He heard her use the term "casting out". When the conversations happened others were present, including Melani. #LORIVALLOW @LawCrimeNetwork
@LawCrimeNetwork Chad was present during these talks. Lori typically did most of the talking #LoriVallow @LawCrimeNetwork
@LawCrimeNetwork He doesn't think she talked about multiple probations. Ian and Melaniece went to AZ for Thanksgiving. When they went back to Rexburg Lori and Chad were gone and they didn't know where they were. #LoriVallow @LawCrimeNetwork
@LawCrimeNetwork He never saw Tylee or JJ but knew of their existance. Lori never said anything about them. He saw backpacks belonging to kids and luggage. #LoriVallow @LawCrimeNetwork
@LawCrimeNetwork He was open to hearing what Lori was saying. Ian says he is LDS and they believe in faith in revelation. The church is a living thing and part of that is you have to have an open mind #LoriVallow @LawCrimeNetwork
@LawCrimeNetwork At that point in his life he said he was going through a religious renaissance. He had went through a rough divorce. It took a few days to realize he wasn't open to what Lori was talking about. #LoriVallow @LawCrimeNetwork
@LawCrimeNetwork The breaking point was the people she said were possessed and the rankings of light and dark was alarming to Ian. He said it sounded like it couldn't change - it was predetermined #LoriVallow @LawCrimeNetwork
@LawCrimeNetwork Melani first told him about the light/dark system and it was referred to in conversation with Lori. #LoriVallow @LawCrimeNetwork
@LawCrimeNetwork Some of the people Lori said was possessed was law enforcement. It was Det Hermasillo and Det Hope. #LoriVallow @LawCrimeNetwork
@LawCrimeNetwork Ian was concerned and things turned was the morning after his marriage to Melani. She dumped her fears on him. A mess going on & she shared what she worried about with him #LoriVallow @LawCrimeNetwork
@LawCrimeNetwork They were in Vegas and his kids were with him. His daughter was gone for 15 min. She was behind a curtain but it terrified him #LoriVallow @LawCrimeNetwork
@LawCrimeNetwork He had concerns for JJ and Tylee after Melani told him things. He was worried about his and his ex-wife's safety so he went to law enforcement on Dec 5 or 6 2019. #LoriVallow @LawCrimeNetwork
@LawCrimeNetwork They were married Nov 30, 2019 and less than a week later he was talking to authorities. They asked him to listen and observe and also make recordings for them #LoriVallow @LawCrimeNetwork
@LawCrimeNetwork He did and gave those recordings to the police. Chad and Lori never confessed to a crime but it did have religious beliefs on them #LoriVallow @LawCrimeNetwork
@LawCrimeNetwork Lori and Chad told Ian to avoid law enforcement and not cooperate. They said they needed to get out of town. It was mostly Chad telling them to get out of town. Lori had a light hearted attitude about cooperating with authorities #LoriVallow @LawCrimeNetwork
@LawCrimeNetwork Melani looked to Lori and Chad as a mother and father figure and was susceptible to their beliefs and open to them. She told Ian this is what they're saying what do you think. #LoriVallow @LawCrimeNetwork
@LawCrimeNetwork State is finished. Mr Thomas is on cross. He says the state has referenced some wire or recordings they want to hear those and that'll be part of his cross exam. #LoriVallow @LawCrimeNetwork
@LawCrimeNetwork The defense will further review the recordings coming in. We will hear that in the morning outside the presence of the jury. We are finished for the day. #LoriVallow @LawCrimeNetwork
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