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Morning thread: Lori Vallow Trial - Day 22

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@LawCrimeNetwork We should be hearing arguments outside the presence of the jury about the wiretaps coming in. Then Ian Pawlowski will be back on the stand. Will Melani Pawlowski be allowed to testify? We will see #LoriVallow
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@LawCrimeNetwork The attorneys are in chambers. Lori will turn her back to the public and face the doorway when her attorneys are not sitting with her #LoriVallow
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@LawCrimeNetwork We are back on the record. They held a meeting this morning about the recordings by Ian Pawlowski. #LoriVallow
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@LawCrimeNetwork We are going to hear arguments now as to what will be introduced #LoriVallow
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@LawCrimeNetwork The defense says they asked for Ian to be dismissed but he was allowed. He testified to which a defense lawyer would call a "snitch" with some secret recordings. #LoriVallow
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@LawCrimeNetwork Ian identified a couple of issues on the recordings - the cops are possessed, Chad and Lori do not confess to any crime. They want to play a part from Dec 12 or 13, 2019 - a recording with Melaniece talking on the phone to Chad & Lori #LoriVallow
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@LawCrimeNetwork They're discussing the death of Alex, the religious issues, a blessing from Chad and Archibald says the religious issues are charged by the state as an overt act as part of the conspiracy. #LoriVallow
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@LawCrimeNetwork He says the tapes are several hours but the one they want to play today is 50 minutes roughly. #LoriVallow
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@LawCrimeNetwork Judge Boyce asks why play it and not cross examine on the content. Archibald says the recording contains the best evidence, the actual statements, and the defense doesn't believe Ian's summaries of the recording are fair and accurate. #LoriVallow
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@LawCrimeNetwork Lindsey Blake says it's objectionable to refer to the witness as a snitch. He had safety concerns and was assisting law enforcement. At no point was he asked to provide a summary. #LoriVallow
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@LawCrimeNetwork She says hearsay is an issue and Chad as a co-conspirator is an issue. She says religious beliefs are not overt acts charged by the state. Her espoused beliefs were used to control others, not that they held or believed these things. #LoriVallow
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@LawCrimeNetwork Archibald asks to respond and says in a conspiracy case what Chad says isn't hearsay and we have allowed Chad's statements in. Co-conspirators isn't hearsay. Alex and Melani are co-conspirators and not hearsay. #LoriVallow
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@LawCrimeNetwork We will take a recess while Judge Boyce decides if the recordings come in #LoriVallow
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@LawCrimeNetwork Lori is holding court with her attorneys. They are standing and she is talking to the both of them #LoriVallow
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@LawCrimeNetwork Judge Boyce is back & rules that the recording are not admissible under hearsay rules but if Ian contradicts the contents of the recordings it could be admissible.
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@LawCrimeNetwork The jury will be brought in and Ian brought back to the stand #LoriVallow
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@LawCrimeNetwork Ian will be on cross exam and Mr Thomas is up. #LoriVallow
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@LawCrimeNetwork Ian says "I am as well as I can be, I guess" when asked how he is. He looks very solemn. #LoriVallow
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@LawCrimeNetwork He met Melani P in November 2019 and she was recently divorced. They got married 10 days after meeting. They were married in Vegas. #LoriVallow
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@LawCrimeNetwork He talked to Lori and Chad and asked for Melani's hand in marriage. He says at that time Chad and Lori were the closest relatives she had a she trusted them most #LoriVallow
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@LawCrimeNetwork They talk about casting. Ian says references were made during phone calls and they're trying to expel a disembodied spirit and even that bugs would crawl into your ear and possess you. #LoriVallow
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@LawCrimeNetwork He is not currently working with the FBI in any capacity. He stopped 2 weeks after he started. Nobody knew he was recording these. Melani knows now that he did. #LoriVallow
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@LawCrimeNetwork 12/12/2019 - Alex died. It was a significant day for Melani. There was a phone call with Lori and Chad about Alex that day or the day after. #LoriVallow
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@LawCrimeNetwork The day Alex died Melani had been told by Lori and Chad told Melani to go to a place of safety. He recorded a conversation and Chad and Lori gave Melani a blessing. #LoriVallow
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@LawCrimeNetwork Ian didn't know what the FBI knew and he hoped he could get anything to help find Tylee and JJ. #LoriVallow
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@LawCrimeNetwork He thinks he did 9 recordings #LoriVallow
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@LawCrimeNetwork He has heard bits and pieces leading up to the trial - the last time was at the grand jury and about 10 min was played. The context was discussions with Ian and Melani, recordings with Lori, Chad, Alex, and Zulema. #LoriVallow
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@LawCrimeNetwork Ian was questioning Melani to see what she was hearing. The one with everyone present was when Alex was sick - Lori said she was able to cast Satan out by folding him up like a taco and shipping him to Antartica. #LoriVallow
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@LawCrimeNetwork Ian said he gave Melani a blessing of comfort - he's asked if he hearing a blessing Chad and Lori gave. He can't rememeber - he said blessing were flying around. #LoriVallow
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@LawCrimeNetwork Lori is watching Ian as he testifies. Thomas says the blessings were for comfort and not nefarious. Ian says now it feels more like manipulation. He said Melani was manipulated more than anyone in the most dark times in her life - divorce/lost custody #LoriVallow
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@LawCrimeNetwork He said there's no shortage of people trying to take advantage of Melani and Lori was one of them. #LoriVallow
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@LawCrimeNetwork Thomas asks what kind of interactions with law enforcement that shows Lori manipulated Melani and he says things came out that shows Lori wasn't truthful - she said Brandon and law enforcement were dark and impeding their mission when they were really trying to fins Tylee and JJ… twitter.com/i/web/status/1…

@LawCrimeNetwork They never said anything bad about Ian on the conversations. #LoriVallow
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@LawCrimeNetwork Ian is coming across as credible I think. The jury is taking notes #LoriVallow
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@LawCrimeNetwork The defense wants Ian to listen to a recording to refresh his memory. Sidebar. #LoriVallow
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@LawCrimeNetwork Back from sidebar. The court denies the request. #LoriVallow
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@LawCrimeNetwork With Alex's passing this was a big deal for Melani - she was very close to him. When he died he was there when she got the news. Zulema called Melani. #LoriVallow
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@LawCrimeNetwork Melani called Lori and Chad. She was distraught and crying and felt spiritual demons were attacking her. That was told to her by Chad and Lori there would be a spiritual attack THAT DAY and to get to safety. BEFORE Alex died. #LoriVallow
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@LawCrimeNetwork It felt strange to Ian they said that right before Alex died. #LoriVallow
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@LawCrimeNetwork Ian said there were realities that spiritual elements were laid over reality. But she doesn't think Lori and Chad were trying to manipulate Melani that day #LoriVallow
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@LawCrimeNetwork Ian said I don't believe a spiritual attack killed Alex. Chad and Lori put shields of light around Melani that day .#LoriVallow
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@LawCrimeNetwork Cross is over. No redirect. Ian is excused and the defense may recall Ian in their case. He will be released from the state. Thomas says they ask he not be released saying he is unlikely to come back if called. State says he has no hesitation being here #LoriVallow… twitter.com/i/web/status/1…

@LawCrimeNetwork We The defense would have to send a subpoena if he were to be called back. Ian's attorney would come back if the defense sent a subpoena. #LoriVallow
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@LawCrimeNetwork Next witness - Taylor Ballard. She is with Ballard Insurance Group (health insurance in Rexburg) #LoriVallow
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@LawCrimeNetwork Chad was her client. On October 31, 2019 he came in because the insurance he had through Tammy's employment was expiring on Nov. 1 He asked for insurance for 3 kids - Seth, Leah, and Mark #LoriVallow
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@LawCrimeNetwork Idaho was looking to expand Medicaid to adults in Jan 2020 and he said his income would be different without Tammy's income. They said they could cover him in Nov and Dec if he qualified for medicaid. #LoriVallow
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@LawCrimeNetwork Given the situation she applied for Medicaid for January. On Nov 5 she went to apply for him. The Health And Welfare interface saw his previous income and said it was higher than what he told her so he qualified for marketplace coverage. #LoriVallow
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@LawCrimeNetwork She has a date wrong. On Nov 5 when she went to Health And Welfare and after learning he wouldn't qualify for Medicaid so they asked for a copy of his tax return. She texted Chad and he responded he was out of state all week #LoriVallow
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@LawCrimeNetwork He said he would bring it the next week. He did bring it in. She took it to health and welfare. He qualified for the tax credit. She talked to him Nov 21 about the options. It was going to be just for him and Mark but he asked about adding a spouse #LoriVallow
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@LawCrimeNetwork She said they would need to do it within 60 days within marriage. #LoriVallow
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@LawCrimeNetwork She heard from Chad again on Dec 10, 2019 by phone and she responded to him on Dec 11. She has a file on her clients and she provided everything she had on Chad.#LoriVallow
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@LawCrimeNetwork Thomas says there's been a discovery violation and asked she be excused. Judge says he won't go that far. Quick sidebar #LoriVallow
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@LawCrimeNetwork The parties have resolved the issue and we are back on the record. #LoriVallow
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@LawCrimeNetwork Chad called to pay his January premium. He hadn't picked a plan so he did and paid. They discussed coverage for his son, Mark. She heard from him March 11, 2020 to get insurance for Lori. #LoriVallow
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@LawCrimeNetwork She told him they were out of the 60 day window. He said she was incarcerated and he was worried something would happen to her but he thought she may get out in a week. #LoriVallow
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@LawCrimeNetwork He also asked for dental insurance. #LoriVallow
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@LawCrimeNetwork He told her in Nov that Lori lived in Kauai and would live in ID 1/2 the year and Lori was a widow who lived of her husband's social security benefits. #LoriVallow
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@LawCrimeNetwork He wrote her name on a sticky note "Lori Ryan Daybell". #LoriVallow
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@LawCrimeNetwork When asked in Nov if there were any children he said no #LoriVallow
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@LawCrimeNetwork End of direct. Thomas is up for cross. He says you filled out info for Chad. He said his income without Tammy would be $20k. Thomas asks her to refresh her memory with her notes #LoriVallow
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@LawCrimeNetwork Chad said they wouldn't have income and Health and Welfare interfaced $30k. Cross is over. No redirect. #LoriVallow
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@LawCrimeNetwork Next up is Angela Yancey. She worked with Salem Sugar School District as benefit and payroll administration #LoriVallow
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@LawCrimeNetwork She knew Tammy. They would have yearly meetings for open enrollment for benefits. #LoriVallow
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@LawCrimeNetwork Tammy changed her life insurance policy in 2019. She filled out the form and submitted it. We will be shown the documents for the change. #LoriVallow
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@LawCrimeNetwork This is the LifeMap change form for her voluntary life insurance. At hire they can elect a $10k option that can be increased during open enrollment. Tammy was hired in 2017 & got the min. of $10k #LoriVallow
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@LawCrimeNetwork She didn't ask for an increase in 2018 but did in 2019. Tammy and Chad both signed the paper since she elected to have spouse coverage. We see the paper with both signatures. #LoriVallow
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@LawCrimeNetwork Signed 9/8/2019 #LoriVallow
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@LawCrimeNetwork The increased would have gone into effect on 9/1. The total amount was 80k and $50k from the group life policy #LoriVallow
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@LawCrimeNetwork The 80k was 5x her salary #LoriVallow
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@LawCrimeNetwork We see the beneficiary statement submitted by Chad. He came in her office Monday after she died. 2 days later. #LoriVallow
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@LawCrimeNetwork Chad came on Oct 21, 2019. She died Oct 19, 2019 and she said it's unusual for a spouse to come in so soon. She said they couldn't submit the claim until they had the original death certificate. He said I have ordered 8. She said the norm is 3 #LoriVallow
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@LawCrimeNetwork He came back Oct 25th but she was out of town. He came back on the 30th. #LoriVallow
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@LawCrimeNetwork Employer's Statement now on screen she completed. She attached the death certificate and submitted it. #LoriVallow
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@LawCrimeNetwork No further questions from the state. Mr Thomas is up for cross. He says there were a few different policies? She said 2. He says the group insurance is free to all employees? She says full-time. #LoriVallow
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@LawCrimeNetwork The 50k offered to every employee. The 1st year she had the minimum $10k. She would pay $1.93 a month for the 10k a month. The $70k payment was around $15.00 a month and the amount you pay is based on age #LoriVallow
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@LawCrimeNetwork Cross is finished - no redirect #LoriVallow
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@LawCrimeNetwork Next up is Officer Collin Nesbit. He is from the Kauai PD. #LoriVallow
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@LawCrimeNetwork His 1st contact with Lori was January 5, 2020. They served Lori with the document. She was located at a condo and was in the swimming pool area. Chad was with her. #LoriVallow
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@LawCrimeNetwork The service was recorded. She was given a copy and asked if she had any questions #LoriVallow
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@LawCrimeNetwork He gave a copy to the Rexburg PD. Looks like we may see this video of her getting served. #LoriVallow
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@LawCrimeNetwork The video shows Lori and Chad at the pool they ask Lori how's it going. She says hi. They're asked are you Chad and Lori and they say yes. Lori is laying in a bikini in a chair. Chad is shirtless. #LoriVallow
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@LawCrimeNetwork She is reading the paperwork and Chad is leaning over trying to read too. Lori stops and looks at the officers. They ask if she has questions and she shakes her head no. That's it. #LoriVallow
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@LawCrimeNetwork This is the order to produce JJ to the ID Department of Health and Welfare or Rexburg PD. She did not and was arrested due to this in February 2020. #LoriVallow
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@LawCrimeNetwork They executed a search warrant on Jan. 26, 2020 - the next day. Chad and Lori were driving the car - they were going to Kauai Beach Resort. #LoriVallow
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@LawCrimeNetwork They initiated a traffic stop at the resort. Lori was driving and Chad was in the car. Both were taken out of the car. Lori was given an opportunity to get her personal paperwork. They gave her the search warrant and let her get any meds or things like that #LoriVallow… twitter.com/i/web/status/1…

@LawCrimeNetwork They gave her the cash in there and meds. They looked through her purse with the search warrant. They found a bank card belonging to Tylee. #LoriVallow
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@LawCrimeNetwork He knew Tylee was missing so he didn't give it to Lori and put it in the front seat of the car then the search was executed. They took photos of the search #LoriVallow
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@LawCrimeNetwork The car search warrant was Jan 28th - 2 days after. #LoriVallow
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@LawCrimeNetwork We are going to see the photos from the search warrant. #LoriVallow
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@LawCrimeNetwork Exterior photos of the Ford Explorer from the evidence warehouse.
Interior pic - 2 water bottles, purse, and a book.
- Tylee's card fell between the seat while being towed. Closeup of card shown. Lori is looking at the screen
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@LawCrimeNetwork Photos:
- Lori's cell phone (seized)
- Backseat - 2 bikes and bottom of floorboard was a bag with birth and death certificates as well as marriage certificate, patriarchal blessing, rental agreement #LoriVallow
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- Back seats let down with bikes and a suitcase.
They seized a backpack with 2 computers.
- 3 iPads, documents, book "Visions Of Glory"
- Closeups of iPads - on with "JJ" written in red
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- Death certificate for Charles Vallow (14-15 copies)
- Rental property printout for condo
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-JJ's birth certificate & original before adoption (several copies)
- Social Sec. cards for JJ & Tylee
- Madison Schools receipt for JJ Vallow
- Birth certificate for Tylee
- Blue Sky Prop. Management - 8/26/2019 - Idaho & has Lori, Tylee, and JJ's names on it… twitter.com/i/web/status/1…

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- Alex Cox patriarchal blessing
- Jansport backpack
- Bag with envelope of cash in the backpack.
- Clinical summary with sticky notes. The name is Lori Vallow. Stickies with various words - Hope - golmad, Blake - hilpus
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Brandon - Ango
Golmad - hope
Brighton - Ilron
Gladius (google says it means swords)
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@LawCrimeNetwork Apple Macbook & HP laptop #LoriVallow
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@LawCrimeNetwork Golmad is a barbarian according to Google. #LoriVallow
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@LawCrimeNetwork They searched their condo as well. Egnaro brand silicone rings and thunderfit silicone rings. #LoriVallow
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