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Still getting too many "covid is the flu" comments, so it must be time for a refresher. I reviewed this in detail in this video (4:54).

TLDR/W, our ability to manage covid has definitely improved, but it’s still NOT the flu!

My longest ever🧵

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Covid and flu do have similar symptoms at the onset. Respiratory symptoms, fever, etc. With flu, diarrhea more commonly seen in children; with covid GI symptoms can be seen at any age.

Thankfully, we have outpatient antivirals for both - should be started asap for those at risk.
How they infect humans is different:

COVID - Spike proteins bind to ACE2 receptors which are on MULTIPLE organ systems (lungs, heart, kidneys, liver, intestines, brain, fat, etc.)

Flu - viral surface proteins bind to acids on the surface of RESPIRATORY epithelial cells

3/
Covid's incubation period is significantly longer: 5-14 days compared with flu at 2-3 days. Covid has a presymptomatic infectious period, it takes longer to show symptoms, and the overall contagious period is longer: ~8 days with covid and 3-4 with flu.

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SARS-CoV-2 can be spread by an infected person 2-3 days BEFORE they show symptoms, when they have very mild symptoms, or by those who never experience symptoms at all. In fact, peak covid infectiousness is a day BEFORE symptoms start! A big reason #KeepMasksinHealthcare is key.5/
With flu you start spreading it once you have symptoms, and you're most contagious for the first 3-4 days of illness. You feel sick so you stay home (I hope), and spread is thereby diminished. Don't go around others when sick! We really don't see presymptomatic spread with flu.6/
Contagiousness is significantly different! One person with flu may give it to 1-2 others. Sars-CoV-2 spreads quickly and easily, causes outbreaks/superspreaders which we do NOT see with flu, and results in continual spreading via new chains of transmission as time goes on. 7/
Flu is MUCH more predictable on who will be severely affected while COVID hospitalization and death can also occur even in previously healthy people. Multisystem inflammatory syndrome can occur even in healthy children, even after a mild infection, and is life-threatening. 8/
Anyone who's had COVID, even if their illness was mild, can experience post-COVID blood clots (lungs, heart, legs, brain) or long-COVID - still poorly understood. Flu or any respiratory infection can certainly have lingering effects, but nothing like what we're seeing with covid.
Mortality rate has thankfully changed considerably. In the early days of COVID, mortality rate was about 5x higher than flu. Recent analyses now indicate a 60-100% higher infection mortality rate. Continued study is needed here to look at more variables.
Interesting nationwide ecological study from Brazil looking at case fatality rate and relative risk of death comparing hospitalized patients with COVID-19 to those with influenza. Covid is still considerably higher with eerily similar disparities to US.11/
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/P…
Flu has a predictable seasonal pattern and vaccination is timed accordingly. Currently Covid vaccine can't be timed this way no matter how much we wish it could. Covid waves have occurred in every season and transmission thus far is occurring year round. 12/
Reinfection. How often can you get it?

Flu- you may be infected once every few years. It's highly unusual to get it twice in 1 year.

COVID- it's unclear how frequently/how many times you can be infected, but there does not appear to be a limit.

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Why care if it's covid or flu?

1- if you should be treated, you need to know asap! Outpatient treatment significantly reduces risk of a bad outcome and the sooner you start, the better

2- determines contact notification and isolation plan to reduce risk of sickening others

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3- may affect your booster plan as you might delay a covid booster if you had covid, but not if it was the flu.

4- knowledge is power! If you suffer from post-infection or long-term symptoms it helps to know what the original infection was.

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Hopefully one day covid really will be more like the flu, but we're just not there yet - and we gain nothing by pretending we are. We must note the important differences and mitigate/ intervene accordingly. We still have much to learn.

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May 5
Thank you @mercnews for publishing my op-ed!

"Opinion: California health care providers’ retreat from COVID masking is shameful

In what universe is it ethically appropriate for physicians and hospitals to infect their own patients with COVID?" 🧵

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mercurynews.com/2023/05/05/opi…
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But having treatment for an infection has never been an excuse to *inflict* that infection upon a patient! When HIV initially spread, we recognized the need for gloves & safe sharps disposal. We didn't abandon these preventative measures when HIV treatments were later developed.
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May 3
👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

Sadly, this explainer was badly needed, and I am grateful to the authors for having the patience to write it. This needs to go in elementary school textbooks so we can avoid further embarrassment on the topic. 🧵 1/7
statnews.com/2023/05/02/do-…
"RCTs have value only when researchers can be sure that the treatment is administered as intended...Without that knowledge, an RCT produces noise, and meta-analyses produce piles of noise."

"Piles of noise," such a polite way to say it! 😅

2/7
"With behavioral interventions like wearing masks, it may be impossible to produce anything *but* noise without vastly more ambitious studies than have been conducted to date."

I've been screaming this into the void for a while.

3/7
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Recently seen on my visit to San Quentin State Prison! The Integrated Substance Use Disorder Treatment (ISUDT) program statewide in CA prisons is doing incredible work. Those of us providing primary care on the outside should be ready to receive these folks and continue treatment Poster with tattered edges ...
Here's CDCRs dashboard on the ISUDT program. I'm jealous of CDCRs dashboards. This is what fully funded looks like.
cchcs.ca.gov/isudt/dashboar…
Folks returning from incarceration on medication assisted treatment face access barriers that could be partly mitigated through telehealth. Thirty days, as required by this proposed rule, is a very short window to establish care in many places.
whyy.org/articles/presc…
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Apr 18
A worthwhile read and no paywall.

"...in the middle of adjusting medications for my 10:40 a.m. patient, I suddenly heard 10 shots fired in quick succession from an automatic weapon, followed by a shout from our lead medical assistant to 'get down!'" 🧵 1/
sfchronicle.com/opinion/openfo…
"I took off running with her to the clinic entrance, where we found a man in his early 20s lying on the sidewalk, suffering from at least six gunshot wounds...Hoping the shooter would not return, we rendered first aid while waiting for the ambulance to arrive."

#Oakland 11 am
"The young man shot in front of my clinic was one of the fortunate ones — he survived. However, countless others have not. Having seen how one shooting on-site caused trauma reverberating throughout our clinic community, I shudder to think about each of these tragedies..."
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Apr 17
Perhaps the most important question that MUST be answered BEFORE removing masks in healthcare: What is the infection mortality rate of hospital-acquired covid? This is actually a straightforward question, and the answer is undoubtedly known/knowable - yet it's not shared. 🧵 1/7
The main way I've seen this data obtained is through a Freedom of Information Act Request. Why would we need a FOIA to get data that's critical to making decisions on the national, state, county, community, facility, & individual level? If we're doing "you do you," we need data!
This data from Australia is distressing. 10.62% of confirmed/probable hospital acquired covid infections resulted in death. From what I gather, this is *before* the removal of masks. 3/
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Apr 16
Appreciated this interview with @khwangreports on the unjust end to masks in healthcare.

"When you look at the number of hospitalizations per day, we were doing better one year ago than we are right now. So there’s no data-driven rationale." 🧵 1/4

calmatters.org/health/coronav…
“'When we learned about blood-borne pathogens, we wore gloves. Gloves suck, they’re uncomfortable, some people are allergic to them, and you can’t feel what you want to feel,' Aboelata said. 'They’re not awesome, but we do it…I think we need to do the same thing here.'” 2/4
"...if the state is going to rely on a 'do-it-yourself public health approach,' it needs to tell the public about any COVID outbreaks at facilities and publish information about facility policies."

I feel very strongly about this.

Public Health Depts, CDC: SHOW US THE DATA. 3/4
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