Paul Lesko Profile picture
May 11, 2023 10 tweets 5 min read Read on X
Quick update in Panini's fight to try and get a TM registration for CERTIFIED!

As you will recall, I said this was a dumb trademark filing...and the Trademark Office (so far) thinks so too as it's been rejected, and Panini is now on appeal.

Well...

...in its appeal brief Panini argues that it should get a CERTIFIED reg. because #TheHobby uses "certified" to mean a certification process has been gone through...whereas Panini's CERTIFIED cards "do not undergo a certification process before they are purchased by the consumer." Image
Talk about an argument only a lawyer would love.

"YOU SEE ALL THOSE OTHER CERTIFIED AND CERTIFIATIONS OUT THERE IN #THEHOBBY? YEAH...THOSE MEAN THE CARDS ARE LIKE LEGIT...OUR CARDS DON'T GO THROUGH THAT. SO WE SAY 'CERTIFIED' BUT WE AIN'T LIKE CERTIFIABLY LEGIT."
The reason Panini is arguing this is because (as you know) the word "certified" is used many many many places in #TheHobby.

In fact, Panini (laughingly) over many pages addresses like...all of them (PSA, CGC, COMC, Sports Collectibles website, Beckett, PMG, eBay, UD...). ImageImageImageImage
Like...seriously, one of the arguments is UD's "certified autograph" describes UD's autos as "certified" to be the actual athlete...whereas Panini's CERTIFIED cards are like...you know...just cards with the word CERTIFIED on them. Image
Panini also breaks out the big gun for its arguments.

That's right.

THE DICTIONARY.

DUH DUH DUMB!!!! Image
I mean, it's a skit out of a comedy with Panini's attorney basically arguing, "Dictionary.com defines CERTIFIED as 'having or proved by a certificate, or guaranteed; reliably endorsed' whereas our shit is not proved by a certificate or guaranteed or reliably endorsed." Image
Panini also argues that its mark CERTIFIED is not generic (cough...yes it is...cough)...because when #TheHobby consumers hear "certified" in relation to cards, the first thing they think of is Panini's CERTIFIED cards. Image
And that's about it!

Next up, we'll get to see the Examiner's response...then Panini will get a reply...then there will be a hearing...then the TTAB will rule (likely against Panini) in about 6-7 months.

So, we're a long ways away from this one being resolved.

• • •

Missing some Tweet in this thread? You can try to force a refresh
 

Keep Current with Paul Lesko

Paul Lesko Profile picture

Stay in touch and get notified when new unrolls are available from this author!

Read all threads

This Thread may be Removed Anytime!

PDF

Twitter may remove this content at anytime! Save it as PDF for later use!

Try unrolling a thread yourself!

how to unroll video
  1. Follow @ThreadReaderApp to mention us!

  2. From a Twitter thread mention us with a keyword "unroll"
@threadreaderapp unroll

Practice here first or read more on our help page!

More from @Paul_Lesko

Feb 27
It's the case everyone's been talking about today: the legal battle over the Wembanyama jersey that Wemby gave to an adorable kid...which then ended up at Goldin Auctions...and sold for $73K...which now the father is trying blow up.

Let's look at the court filings!
Well, the case is captioned Frankie Desideri, Sr. (individually and on behalf of his son) v. Goldin Auctions...and yes...it's handwritten...which means the plaintiff here is proceeding without an attorney...which rarely (if ever) works out. Image
So the plaintiff here asks the court to "stop sale of a game worn jersey that was given to my 5 year old son" in which there were allegedly "multiple attempts" to withdraw the jersey from auction. Image
Read 19 tweets
Oct 15, 2024
In Vargas v. Panini--which no one remembers is about alleged employment discrimination BUT everyone now knows as the case where Vargas's attorneys were sanctioned for allegedly filing an AI prepared brief--two of the sanctioned attorneys filed a "motion for reconsideration." Image
Now, before I get into the meat of this filing, motions for reconsideration are annoying and mostly always fail.

Was in court once when a judge took up such a motion and scolded the filers, asking, "Is this a motion to overrule myself?"
Judges HATE motions for reconsideration because the motion itself stands for the notion that the judge fucked up. Really. It may as well be called a JUDGE-YOU-REALLY-SCREWED-THIS-ONE-UP MOTION.
Read 16 tweets
Feb 4, 2024
What? What?? WHAT??!?! You want a Sunday live read of a new CGC lawsuit?

Which also has a request for a temporary restraining order/preliminary injunction as well?!?!?

SURE WHY NOT
Image
Image
This has been a busy week for CGC who also sued two of its former employees last week (AND also sought a TRO/PI).

If you want a reminder on that one before we get into the new stuff, here ya go:

For the new lawsuit, it's CGC taking on Ulises Zanello and Bree Riva who allegedly engaged in what they advertised as CGC-certified comic books in CGC holders but in reality were “swapp[ed]” for inferior, lower-value comics.

In other words, a re-holdering scam. Image
Read 25 tweets
Feb 1, 2024
New #TheHobby-ish lawsuit!

It's CGC v. Brandon and Ayana Terrazas, and let's do a live read of it!

BUT, you hafta cut me a little slack. We have a sick/coughing household that kept me up all night...so kinda sleepwalking a bit here.

Still, with that, let's go! Image
The case starts out with a bang as it's a lawsuit "brought against two employees who abused their roles and privileges at CGC."

And how'd they abuse their roles? Well...[cont]... Image
...they allegedly "convert[ed] customers’ property, [sold] collectible materials in violation of CGC policies, and print[ed] CGC labels...in order to improperly label lower-grade collectible products as higher-grade collectible products."
Read 30 tweets
Jan 5, 2024
Patent cases are hard.

Some clients can be hard to control.

And what happens when those two intersect? Well, you get a letter written to the judge from the client that he admits will "blindside" his attorney...has a section entitled "Rant"...and tells the judge "Shame on you."

Image
Image
Image
I've filed dozens of patent infringement cases, but because patent cases are so difficult nowadays (and patents are worth so little), it's been close to 10 years since I filed any.

They're generally not viable cases any more.
The client here alleges he spent $9M on this patent fight.

And that's not really that crazy. Image
Read 12 tweets
Aug 4, 2023
So...while I was gone, did anything happen today?

OH SHIT THAT'S RIGHT, Panini sued Fanatics for antitrust!

Now this is going to be fun one.

Who wants to do a live read of this bad boy? Image
Before we get into it, YES, I've done antitrust cases...from the defense and plaintiffs' side actually...and the biggest take home is: antitrust cases are EXPENSIVE.

The amount it costs to defend these (because of the voluminous discovery to be produced plus experts) is A LOT.
The easiest way to look at an antitrust case is, to win the plaintiff needs to show (basically) the defendant 1) has market power and 2) did something "bad."

Just having market power by itself (most times) isn't sufficient to lose an antitrust case.
Read 57 tweets

Did Thread Reader help you today?

Support us! We are indie developers!


This site is made by just two indie developers on a laptop doing marketing, support and development! Read more about the story.

Become a Premium Member ($3/month or $30/year) and get exclusive features!

Become Premium

Don't want to be a Premium member but still want to support us?

Make a small donation by buying us coffee ($5) or help with server cost ($10)

Donate via Paypal

Or Donate anonymously using crypto!

Ethereum

0xfe58350B80634f60Fa6Dc149a72b4DFbc17D341E copy

Bitcoin

3ATGMxNzCUFzxpMCHL5sWSt4DVtS8UqXpi copy

Thank you for your support!

Follow Us!

:(