✝️ 🇺🇸 🇺🇦 Dave Burton

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@Michael_D_Crow @FreeSpeech4U_Me @ChadHenneman @Veritatem2021 @DenisDaly @BenKoby1911 @SpiruSensei @Anvndarnamn5 @EdwardRiffle @S_Metzeler @WernerReinhard5 @AndreGrossza @Melinda15858273 @GreyCat45 @Michellesince66 @priscian @C_R_O_M________ @ScienceBlog3 @InspirallPE @ChrisBBacon3 @Climatehope2 @Data79504085 @3GHtweets @PvtMcAuslan @fischerfischy @Willard1951 @AuroriaEn @JusticeTrudeau @Mark_A_Lunn @judgementalbe1 @AristotleMrs @Coleski14 @wallytoms0 @LesserMegadeath @S_D_Mannix @ammocrypta @JimBlack48 @glinch72 @Jaisans @stitchnstab @CarrudoDon @LiveLifeBK24 @TheDisproof @Joeyd87745119 @Devonian1342 @Hji45519156 @waxliberty @SuperFoxyLoxy @JaapTitulaer @wjack76995 1/3》Feldman measured downwelling LW IR from CO2 at ground level, under clear sky conditions, for a decade. They found that a 22 ppmv (= +5.946%) CO2 level increase (+8.333% forcing) caused a 0.2±0.06 W/m² increase in LW IR from CO2. That's +2.40 ±0.72 W/m² per CO2 doubling.

@Michael_D_Crow @FreeSpeech4U_Me @ChadHenneman @Veritatem2021 @DenisDaly @BenKoby1911 @SpiruSensei @Anvndarnamn5 @EdwardRiffle @S_Metzeler @WernerReinhard5 @AndreGrossza @Melinda15858273 @GreyCat45 @Michellesince66 @priscian @C_R_O_M________ @ScienceBlog3 @InspirallPE @ChrisBBacon3 @Climatehope2 @Data79504085 @3GHtweets @PvtMcAuslan @fischerfischy @Willard1951 @AuroriaEn @JusticeTrudeau @Mark_A_Lunn @judgementalbe1 @AristotleMrs @Coleski14 @wallytoms0 @LesserMegadeath @S_D_Mannix @ammocrypta @JimBlack48 @glinch72 @Jaisans @stitchnstab @CarrudoDon @LiveLifeBK24 @TheDisproof @Joeyd87745119 @Devonian1342 @Hji45519156 @waxliberty @SuperFoxyLoxy @JaapTitulaer @wjack76995 2/3》But ≈22.6% of solar radiation is reflected away, without reaching the surface or being absorbed in the atmosphere. Adjusting for having measured at the surface, rather than TOA, yields 1.29 × (2.40 ±0.72) = 3.10 ±0.93 W/m² at TOA per doubling of CO2.
sealevel.info/Radiative_Forc…

@Michael_D_Crow @FreeSpeech4U_Me @ChadHenneman @Veritatem2021 @DenisDaly @BenKoby1911 @SpiruSensei @Anvndarnamn5 @EdwardRiffle @S_Metzeler @WernerReinhard5 @AndreGrossza @Melinda15858273 @GreyCat45 @Michellesince66 @priscian @C_R_O_M________ @ScienceBlog3 @InspirallPE @ChrisBBacon3 @Climatehope2 @Data79504085 @3GHtweets @PvtMcAuslan @fischerfischy @Willard1951 @AuroriaEn @JusticeTrudeau @Mark_A_Lunn @judgementalbe1 @AristotleMrs @Coleski14 @wallytoms0 @LesserMegadeath @S_D_Mannix @ammocrypta @JimBlack48 @glinch72 @Jaisans @stitchnstab @CarrudoDon @LiveLifeBK24 @TheDisproof @Joeyd87745119 @Devonian1342 @Hji45519156 @waxliberty @SuperFoxyLoxy @JaapTitulaer @wjack76995 3/3》From 1972 to 2022 CO2 level rose from 327.46 to 418.56 (91.1 ppmv = +27.82%), causing a radiative forcing increase equal to 35.4% of a doubling of CO2. 35.4% of (3.10±0.93 W/m²) = 1.10 ±0.33 W/m².

+1.1 W/m² should yield 0.3 to 0.5 °C of warming.
sealevel.info/Radiative_Forc…

@Michael_D_Crow @FreeSpeech4U_Me @ChadHenneman @Veritatem2021 @DenisDaly @BenKoby1911 @SpiruSensei @Anvndarnamn5 @EdwardRiffle @S_Metzeler @WernerReinhard5 @AndreGrossza @Melinda15858273 @GreyCat45 @Michellesince66 @priscian @C_R_O_M________ @ScienceBlog3 @InspirallPE @ChrisBBacon3 @Climatehope2 @Data79504085 @3GHtweets @PvtMcAuslan @fischerfischy @Willard1951 @AuroriaEn @JusticeTrudeau @Mark_A_Lunn @judgementalbe1 @AristotleMrs @Coleski14 @wallytoms0 @LesserMegadeath @S_D_Mannix @ammocrypta @JimBlack48 @glinch72 @Jaisans @stitchnstab @CarrudoDon @LiveLifeBK24 @TheDisproof @Joeyd87745119 @Devonian1342 @Hji45519156 @waxliberty @threadreaderapp @rattibha @threaddotblue unroll

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✝️ 🇺🇸 🇺🇦 Dave Burton

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@gargantuandwarf @TopAlliedAceWW1 @MarshallCd @Michael_D_Crow @NotAHoax @fischerfischy @ChrisBBacon3 @DaleGribble_666 @FredHikes @Willard1951 @Mark_A_Lunn @adlrope @ejwwest @Devonian1342 @priscian @ammocrypta @Anvndarnamn5 @safcpete67 @Climatehope2 @BJChippindale @S_D_Mannix @DenisDaly @JimBlack48 @AndersBrunstad2 @periodicaudio @JusticeTrudeau @andrewmac71 @WernerReinhard5 @glinch72 @Jaisans @stitchnstab @CarrudoDon @Veritatem2021 @LiveLifeBK24 @BenKoby1911 @TheDisproof @AristotleMrs @Joeyd87745119 @Data79504085 @Hji45519156 @waxliberty @SuperFoxyLoxy @JaapTitulaer @wjack76995 @Rocky35418823 @NobaconEgbert @balls95652097 @JustThi30117912 @CO2Coalition Billy, nobody claims that nearly all heat transport is via IR. The so-called "greenhouse warming" effect doesn't depend on such a claim. In my 1500-word comment I noted that water cycle / latent heat transport (70-88 W/m²) cools the surface more than net LW IR flux (52-60 W/m²).

@gargantuandwarf @TopAlliedAceWW1 @MarshallCd @Michael_D_Crow @NotAHoax @fischerfischy @ChrisBBacon3 @DaleGribble_666 @FredHikes @Willard1951 @Mark_A_Lunn @adlrope @ejwwest @Devonian1342 @priscian @ammocrypta @Anvndarnamn5 @safcpete67 @Climatehope2 @BJChippindale @S_D_Mannix @DenisDaly @JimBlack48 @AndersBrunstad2 @periodicaudio @JusticeTrudeau @andrewmac71 @WernerReinhard5 @glinch72 @Jaisans @stitchnstab @CarrudoDon @Veritatem2021 @LiveLifeBK24 @BenKoby1911 @TheDisproof @AristotleMrs @Joeyd87745119 @Data79504085 @Hji45519156 @waxliberty @SuperFoxyLoxy @JaapTitulaer @wjack76995 @Rocky35418823 @NobaconEgbert @balls95652097 @JustThi30117912 @CO2Coalition GDwarf, I wish NASA would not omit the confidence intervals from their energy/ERB diagrams (including the one Tom Shula used). Note that I've included guesstimated confidence intervals in the figures I've cited. They're from comparing various sources, and from the NCA4 diagram.

@gargantuandwarf @TopAlliedAceWW1 @MarshallCd @Michael_D_Crow @NotAHoax @fischerfischy @ChrisBBacon3 @DaleGribble_666 @FredHikes @Willard1951 @Mark_A_Lunn @adlrope @ejwwest @Devonian1342 @priscian @ammocrypta @Anvndarnamn5 @safcpete67 @Climatehope2 @BJChippindale @S_D_Mannix @DenisDaly @JimBlack48 @AndersBrunstad2 @periodicaudio @JusticeTrudeau @andrewmac71 @WernerReinhard5 @glinch72 @Jaisans @stitchnstab @CarrudoDon @Veritatem2021 @LiveLifeBK24 @BenKoby1911 @TheDisproof @AristotleMrs @Joeyd87745119 @Data79504085 @Hji45519156 @waxliberty @SuperFoxyLoxy @JaapTitulaer @wjack76995 @Rocky35418823 @NobaconEgbert @balls95652097 @JustThi30117912 @CO2Coalition My annotated NCA4 diagram:
sealevel.info/NCA4_global_en…

Note the parenthesized confidence intervals in small print beneath each of their flux estimates: e.g.,
161 (154, 166) for "solar absorbed surface"

When NASA gave estimates outside those CIs, I used expanded CIs to include them.

✝️ 🇺🇸 🇺🇦 Dave Burton

@ncdave4life

May 15

@priscian @Willard1951 @DaleGribble_666 @gargantuandwarf @Climatehope2 @PqGregor @FredHikes @BJChippindale @DenisDaly @Mark_A_Lunn @Anvndarnamn5 @MarshallCd @adlrope @ejwwest @Devonian1342 @MatthewWielicki @ammocrypta @Michael_D_Crow @safcpete67 @S_D_Mannix @TopAlliedAceWW1 @JimBlack48 @AndersBrunstad2 @fischerfischy @periodicaudio @JusticeTrudeau @andrewmac71 @WernerReinhard5 @glinch72 @Jaisans @stitchnstab @CarrudoDon @Veritatem2021 @LiveLifeBK24 @BenKoby1911 @TheDisproof @AristotleMrs @Joeyd87745119 @Data79504085 @Hji45519156 @waxliberty @SuperFoxyLoxy @ChrisBBacon3 @JaapTitulaer @wjack76995 @Rocky35418823 @NobaconEgbert @balls95652097 1/4」Well, it certainly isn't "USHCN v2" raw data! 😀

So I'll simplify this for you: if you think that it's NOT "raw data" (in the terminology of Hansen et al 2001), then where IS the raw data?

Well, maybe that's unfair, since I know you can't find it. So, WHY can't you?

@priscian @Willard1951 @DaleGribble_666 @gargantuandwarf @Climatehope2 @PqGregor @FredHikes @BJChippindale @DenisDaly @Mark_A_Lunn @Anvndarnamn5 @MarshallCd @adlrope @ejwwest @Devonian1342 @MatthewWielicki @ammocrypta @Michael_D_Crow @safcpete67 @S_D_Mannix @TopAlliedAceWW1 @JimBlack48 @AndersBrunstad2 @fischerfischy @periodicaudio @JusticeTrudeau @andrewmac71 @WernerReinhard5 @glinch72 @Jaisans @stitchnstab @CarrudoDon @Veritatem2021 @LiveLifeBK24 @BenKoby1911 @TheDisproof @AristotleMrs @Joeyd87745119 @Data79504085 @Hji45519156 @waxliberty @SuperFoxyLoxy @ChrisBBacon3 @JaapTitulaer @wjack76995 @Rocky35418823 @NobaconEgbert @balls95652097 2/4」You haven't thought it through. If you WERE right that Fig. 6 of Hansen 1999 was adjusted, rather than what Hansen 2001 calls "raw," then it would mean the undocumented pre-2001 adjustments were EVEN MORE DRASTIC than they appear to be in these graphs
sealevel.info/fig1x_1999_hig…

@priscian @Willard1951 @DaleGribble_666 @gargantuandwarf @Climatehope2 @PqGregor @FredHikes @BJChippindale @DenisDaly @Mark_A_Lunn @Anvndarnamn5 @MarshallCd @adlrope @ejwwest @Devonian1342 @MatthewWielicki @ammocrypta @Michael_D_Crow @safcpete67 @S_D_Mannix @TopAlliedAceWW1 @JimBlack48 @AndersBrunstad2 @fischerfischy @periodicaudio @JusticeTrudeau @andrewmac71 @WernerReinhard5 @glinch72 @Jaisans @stitchnstab @CarrudoDon @Veritatem2021 @LiveLifeBK24 @BenKoby1911 @TheDisproof @AristotleMrs @Joeyd87745119 @Data79504085 @Hji45519156 @waxliberty @SuperFoxyLoxy @ChrisBBacon3 @JaapTitulaer @wjack76995 @Rocky35418823 @NobaconEgbert @balls95652097 3/4」GISS homogenization always "improves" the likeness of temperatures to a "hockey stick." It cools the warm 1930s/40s and warms the chilly 1960s/70s.

You can see that in the raw vs. adjusted temperature graphs in Hansen 2001:
sealevel.info/Hansen2001_USH…

✝️ 🇺🇸 🇺🇦 Dave Burton

@ncdave4life

May 15

@priscian @Willard1951 @DaleGribble_666 @gargantuandwarf @Climatehope2 @PqGregor @FredHikes @BJChippindale @DenisDaly @Mark_A_Lunn @Anvndarnamn5 @MarshallCd @adlrope @ejwwest @Devonian1342 @MatthewWielicki @ammocrypta @Michael_D_Crow @safcpete67 @S_D_Mannix @TopAlliedAceWW1 @JimBlack48 @AndersBrunstad2 @fischerfischy @periodicaudio @JusticeTrudeau @andrewmac71 @WernerReinhard5 @glinch72 @Jaisans @stitchnstab @CarrudoDon @Veritatem2021 @LiveLifeBK24 @BenKoby1911 @TheDisproof @AristotleMrs @Joeyd87745119 @Data79504085 @Hji45519156 @waxliberty @SuperFoxyLoxy @ChrisBBacon3 @JaapTitulaer @wjack76995 @Rocky35418823 @NobaconEgbert @balls95652097 Willard wrote, "I believe that Dave 1. Somehow thinks that Figure 6 from Hansen et al 1999 is the 'raw' USCHN v2 data, or…"

Jim replied, "I'm thinking no. 1…"

If you gents "are thinking" Hansen (1999) was about "USHCN v2 data" then you're even more confused than I realized.

@priscian @Willard1951 @DaleGribble_666 @gargantuandwarf @Climatehope2 @PqGregor @FredHikes @BJChippindale @DenisDaly @Mark_A_Lunn @Anvndarnamn5 @MarshallCd @adlrope @ejwwest @Devonian1342 @MatthewWielicki @ammocrypta @Michael_D_Crow @safcpete67 @S_D_Mannix @TopAlliedAceWW1 @JimBlack48 @AndersBrunstad2 @fischerfischy @periodicaudio @JusticeTrudeau @andrewmac71 @WernerReinhard5 @glinch72 @Jaisans @stitchnstab @CarrudoDon @Veritatem2021 @LiveLifeBK24 @BenKoby1911 @TheDisproof @AristotleMrs @Joeyd87745119 @Data79504085 @Hji45519156 @waxliberty @SuperFoxyLoxy @ChrisBBacon3 @JaapTitulaer @wjack76995 @Rocky35418823 @NobaconEgbert @balls95652097 Unfortunately, GISS "disappeared" the 1999 version of the data, which was depicted in Hansen's 1999 paper. They also used robots.txt to prevent the data files from being archived.

So it's just gone. (Your tax dollars at work.)

Here's the paper:
sealevel.info/1999_Hansen_ha…

@priscian @Willard1951 @DaleGribble_666 @gargantuandwarf @Climatehope2 @PqGregor @FredHikes @BJChippindale @DenisDaly @Mark_A_Lunn @Anvndarnamn5 @MarshallCd @adlrope @ejwwest @Devonian1342 @MatthewWielicki @ammocrypta @Michael_D_Crow @safcpete67 @S_D_Mannix @TopAlliedAceWW1 @JimBlack48 @AndersBrunstad2 @fischerfischy @periodicaudio @JusticeTrudeau @andrewmac71 @WernerReinhard5 @glinch72 @Jaisans @stitchnstab @CarrudoDon @Veritatem2021 @LiveLifeBK24 @BenKoby1911 @TheDisproof @AristotleMrs @Joeyd87745119 @Data79504085 @Hji45519156 @waxliberty @SuperFoxyLoxy @ChrisBBacon3 @JaapTitulaer @wjack76995 @Rocky35418823 @NobaconEgbert @balls95652097 In late 2011 I asked the CSRRT (Climate Science Rapid Response Team) to help me find that lost data, but they were stumped. Here's the conversation:
sealevel.info/climate/Re_CSR…

✝️ 🇺🇸 🇺🇦 Dave Burton

@ncdave4life

May 14

@AnnaFazack1 1️⃣/9️⃣▷ Meanwhile, in the real world, climate activists block the best young scientists from being hired or tenured, & even get top scientists like Prof. Peter Ridd fired, if they dare speak the inconvenient good news about climate.
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@AnnaFazack1 2️⃣/9️⃣▷ The "climate crisis" is a marketing ploy. Thousands of high quality studies in rigorous sciences, like agronomy, give compelling evidence that human impact on Earth's climate is modest & benign, and CO2 emissions are beneficial rather than harmful.
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@AnnaFazack1 3️⃣/9️⃣▷ On twitter, as on other social media platforms, the vicious abuse by climate activists, of scientists who are skeptical of the "climate emergency," continues unabated. It's a cynical climate industry strategy, to market their products by silencing their critics.

✝️ 🇺🇸 🇺🇦 Dave Burton

@ncdave4life

May 9

@ClimateOfGavin @Theranello @EytanPs89 @NASAClimate 1/40> Gavin wrote, "The floating ice melting *doesn’t* set up barotropic surface gravity waves which would transmit eustatic sea level changes very rapidly across the ocean"

Thanks for acknowledging it. Too many people never admit their errors. I'm glad you aren't one of them.

@ClimateOfGavin @Theranello @EytanPs89 @NASAClimate 2/40> Gavin wrote, "all local variations affect the global mean (it’s just an average of all points)."

Do not mistake how it is ESTIMATED for how it's DEFINED. "Global" also means "not merely local," and steric changes in the upper layer of the ocean are merely local.

@ClimateOfGavin @Theranello @EytanPs89 @NASAClimate 3/40> Gavin wrote, "global mean sea level is the average of the sea level, not the ocean+floating ice level."

That's unconventional. Conventionally, floating ice is considered to be PART OF the ocean (though the top surface of the ice isn't usually considered local sea-level).

✝️ 🇺🇸 🇺🇦 Dave Burton

@ncdave4life

May 8

@SpiruSensei @ChrisBBacon3 @DenisDaly @S_Metzeler @priscian @AndreGrossza @ScienceBlog3 @BenKoby1911 @Data79504085 @InspirallPE @3GHtweets @Anvndarnamn5 @PvtMcAuslan @Climatehope2 @EdwardRiffle @fischerfischy @Willard1951 @Veritatem2021 @AuroriaEn @Michael_D_Crow @JusticeTrudeau @Mark_A_Lunn @judgementalbe1 @AristotleMrs @Coleski14 @wallytoms0 @LesserMegadeath @WernerReinhard5 @S_D_Mannix @ammocrypta @JimBlack48 @glinch72 @Jaisans @stitchnstab @CarrudoDon @LiveLifeBK24 @TheDisproof @Joeyd87745119 @Devonian1342 @Hji45519156 @waxliberty @SuperFoxyLoxy @JaapTitulaer @wjack76995 @Rocky35418823 @NobaconEgbert @balls95652097 @JustThi30117912 @SniemN @NatGeo 1/7} Your error, Francesco, perhaps comes from focusing on the wrong field. Why look at papers about "climate change" when the topic should be AGRONOMY?

The main impacts of climate are on agriculture, so the relevant field is agronomy.

Here's a paper:
frontiersin.org/articles/10.33…

@SpiruSensei @ChrisBBacon3 @DenisDaly @S_Metzeler @priscian @AndreGrossza @ScienceBlog3 @BenKoby1911 @Data79504085 @InspirallPE @3GHtweets @Anvndarnamn5 @PvtMcAuslan @Climatehope2 @EdwardRiffle @fischerfischy @Willard1951 @Veritatem2021 @AuroriaEn @Michael_D_Crow @JusticeTrudeau @Mark_A_Lunn @judgementalbe1 @AristotleMrs @Coleski14 @wallytoms0 @LesserMegadeath @WernerReinhard5 @S_D_Mannix @ammocrypta @JimBlack48 @glinch72 @Jaisans @stitchnstab @CarrudoDon @LiveLifeBK24 @TheDisproof @Joeyd87745119 @Devonian1342 @Hji45519156 @waxliberty @SuperFoxyLoxy @JaapTitulaer @wjack76995 @Rocky35418823 @NobaconEgbert @balls95652097 @JustThi30117912 @SniemN @NatGeo 2/7} Your myopic focus on "papers on climate change" is like saying that the chiropractic journals are full of papers by chiropractors confirming the supposed benefits of chiropractic, and they're hardly any papers in those journals any denying it.
chiroindex.org/journals/

@SpiruSensei @ChrisBBacon3 @DenisDaly @S_Metzeler @priscian @AndreGrossza @ScienceBlog3 @BenKoby1911 @Data79504085 @InspirallPE @3GHtweets @Anvndarnamn5 @PvtMcAuslan @Climatehope2 @EdwardRiffle @fischerfischy @Willard1951 @Veritatem2021 @AuroriaEn @Michael_D_Crow @JusticeTrudeau @Mark_A_Lunn @judgementalbe1 @AristotleMrs @Coleski14 @wallytoms0 @LesserMegadeath @WernerReinhard5 @S_D_Mannix @ammocrypta @JimBlack48 @glinch72 @Jaisans @stitchnstab @CarrudoDon @LiveLifeBK24 @TheDisproof @Joeyd87745119 @Devonian1342 @Hji45519156 @waxliberty @SuperFoxyLoxy @JaapTitulaer @wjack76995 @Rocky35418823 @NobaconEgbert @balls95652097 @JustThi30117912 @SniemN @NatGeo 3/7} The climate journals are full of papers confirming the importance of "fighting climate change," by people whose livelihoods depend on the "climate crisis" scam, and those journals have hardly any papers denying it. So what?

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