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@wil_da_beast630
May 29 • 3 tweets • 2 min read Twitter logo Read on Twitter
@RichardHanania The entire Black African sample here is 57 people. Carribean's a bit over 40. One group measured here had a non-normed IQ of "117."

Anything's possible, but I'll be reeeallly curious to see how scores for at least the larger groups here compare to the next WISC, NAEP, etc.
@RichardHanania OK - the sample with the 117 score had 16 kids in it. There's also an Asian group with a 96 IQ: sample of 12.
@RichardHanania Last: I'd also have a few questions re definition. Blacks are back at 85 here - but a "US Black" seems to be someone with no immigrant parents OR grand-parents: other Blacks would be excluded (?) or placed in one of 5-6 other Black/mixed categories.

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Apr 24
The Scholar has now moved to explicitly claiming that any argument that non-genetic CULTURAL differences (in, for example, study time) between racial and ethnic groups explain group performance gaps is racist.

It's worth unpacking just how absurd this is.
(2) First, the fact that there ARE large gaps in performance between groups, which have a big cultural component, is disputed by essentially no serious people.

Asian-American kids study ~2x as much as white kids, and 3x as much as Black kids, IIRC after the income adjustment. Image
(3) The claim that these sort of differences are somehow all due to "racism" (or genes) fails.
Importantly, they also exist between different ethnic/cultural sub-groups of the SAME race. The highest-earning white groups make 200% as much $$ as the lowest..en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_e…
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Mar 30
An awkward historical fact, which genuinely complicates the reparations debate, is that Black Americans are just obviously better off on average than we would be had our ancestors never come to the United States.
Pointing out something this self-evidently true isn't "justifying slavery," which was obviously terrible FOR SLAVES and existed ~globally in 1850.

But, no one arguing for that $5M today in LA is or has ever been a slave. Pro-POC affirmative action has been the law since '67.
Last: it's worth noting that a version of this is true for ALL Americans. I don't see many alt-right sparring partners actually going back to Hungary, Sicily, Moldova, etc.

Even our Native brothers alive today probably appreciate "supermarkets" and "wheeled vehicles."
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Mar 29
An under-recognized aspect of "PC" language is that it serves as a class signalling mechanism.

W/o trying to be rude, there is no logical difference between saying "slow"..."retarded"...or "delayed developmentally." Knowing the more complex term shows you went to college.
Same's true for "colored person" vs "person of color," "POC," "BIPOC," etc.

Obviously, ~no one saying something a la "The hosts were a great local group of colored businessmen" is being wildly racist - but they have instantly pegged themself as older and working class.
(3) "Would YOU call someone a 'colored guy who's slow on tests?' "

Nah. Because I'm a member of the "PMC" myself, and know how to say the exact same thing using words from Latin or Woke. But, I still remember being baffled by all the speech rules when I got to U-I from the hood.
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Mar 22
This is getting a bit silly.

The original claim was that people who critique Black (or Appalachian?) culture are genetic racists, because the forces driving culture - at very least, these were the only ones mentioned - must be genetics or racism.

That is obviously not true.
(2) Massive, culturally-caused differences in income, test scoring (I've attached global PISA), alcohol consumption etc exist all around the world - between genetically similar, same-"race" groups in situations where 'systemic racism' could not even plausibly have played a role. Image
(3) No one denies that - say - past racism can help shape group culture.
But, so can the original founder culture a group 'carries,' cultures encountered along the way ("Black Rednecks"), systemic incentives like welfare, and even plain luck like region of settlement.
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Jan 29
There is no difference between the argument (1) "Black cops killing a Black guy in a Black-run Black-majority city is white supremacy" and the argument (2) "Black people can never be responsible for anything."

Both, of course, are false.
(2) What's remarkable about a lot of these arguments, to me as a political scientist, is how provincial they are - suited specifically to the 1960s race debate, specifically in the USA.

Do you really not think they...do not have cops in Lagos or Tokyo or Ankara?
A more sophisticated version of this idea would be that Black people can be individually responsible for bad moral decisions - mismanagement, crime - but these are caused ~entirely by exposure to a malign force called "white supremacy."

Whites are capable of su generis evil.
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Jan 26
So, I wrote a fair number of things lately, which I'll soon add to my pinned tweet.

This is my @NRO article about how virtually every information-curation conspiracy theory was...just true: nationalreview.com/2022/12/the-co…
(2) This was my second piece for big @nro - whatever "gender" is, it isn't actual biological sex involving reproductive systems and chromosomes, and this matters for sport, sex, and prisons...nationalreview.com/2023/01/cleari…
(3) Breaking that mold, I reviewed @sairasameerarao's book on how to improve white women for the @dcexaminer...and I frankly still think she's a parody account...washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/saira-…
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