A retired T-80UD rusting away following the type's retirement from service in Russia (picture likely from the early 2010s)
The T-80UD is somewhat unique in relation to the current invasion of Ukraine (thread, 1/17)
An argument could easily be made that the vehicle is superior to the average tank of both Ukraine (T-64BV) and Russia (T-72B or early B3). However, despite a non-insignificant production run at Kharkiv in the late Soviet era (around 650 vehicles pre-91 often mentioned) (2/)
No T-80UD has been seen on either side as of the writing of this. The T-80UD is basically a modified T-80U that swaps out the gas turbine for the 6TD diesel, an evolution of the 5TD/5TDF of T-64s. 6TD was introduced in some Soviet-era modernized T-64s, and is also used by (3/)
more modern Ukrainian T-64BMs. T-80UD was created after Kharkiv locomotive plant was ordered to produce the T-80U, a design from the Leningrad Kirov plant. Kharkiv was the home of the diesel that powered the T-64s, and found it more suitable to produce it than turbine tanks (4/)
There are also a myriad of other changes in comparison to T-80U, such as new turret castings (which were produced at Azovstal in Mariupol) and small modifications in the fitting of equipment. T-80UD was designated as Object 478B (A was a simplified model) before adoption (5/)
(T-84s/Oplots created by post-collapse Ukraine have continued to use the 478 as their object number, and one could argue T-80UD in practice introduces a new family of tank mostly taking their design from T-80 but with powerplant from T-64 - pic is Obj 478DU w/ T-64 wheels) (6/)
After the USSR collapsed (T-80UDs were notably seen during the attempted August 1991 hardliner coup in Moscow), most T-80UDs found themselves on the territory of Russia, but the type was largely dependent on Kharkiv and associated facilities for its maintenance (7/)
Because of this, the type was quite quickly phased out of service, despite being arguably more modern than any other tanks in Russia outside of T-80Us and the recent T-90s. Many UDs were scrapped, some were employed on target ranges as recently as 2021. (8/)
On Russia's side, one element of T-80UD did make it to the invasion - A few T-80UE-1s, which are T-80BV hulls that were given turrets from T-80UDs. Their claim to fame was being part of the great T-80U bloodbath taken by the 4th Guards Tank Div in Sumy and Kharkiv oblasts (9/)
Very occasional sighting suggest a few UE-1s may still be in service in Russia - a far cry from the hundreds of UD, that despite their engines may still be dearly missed considering 1958 T-54Bs (and beyond them a great many T-62s) have now showed up on the Russian side (10/)
On the Ukrainian side, Kharkiv Locomotive Plant ended up in Ukraine, alongside seemingly parts for a number of unfinished or planned T-80UDs. The number of actual serviceable tank seems to have been a lot lower though. (11/)
In 1996, Ukraine signed a contract with Pakistan to sell them 320 T-80UDs - the largest T-80 and Ukrainian export sale ever. It is understood most of these were made from pre-existing parts and comprised almost all UDs left in Ukraine. (12/)
Most of these exported T-80UDs included small upgrades (Object 478BE), with allegedly some introducing the welded turret design also used by T-84 (Object 478BE-1). The last were finished in 2002, to Russian protest over the tanks being sold to an enemy of India (13/)
Since then, there has been very minimal, if any sightings of T-80UD in Ukraine. None have been seen lost in the war against Russia (unlike T-80BV, of which Oryx lists 40 Ukrainian losses as of now). A Soviet era Object 478 prototype survives as a monument in Kyiv. (14/)
However, unlike in Russia, the T-80UD still has an open and evolving legacy in Ukraine in the T-84/Oplot family. New Object 478 family tanks were first marketed as T-84 around 1995 (Object 478D/DUs). At its core, the first T-84 was a T-80UD with a welded turret and new FCS (15/)
The family has greatly evolved since then - receiving the name of "Oplot" around the turn of the century, with the lastest version, BM-Oplot, often ditching T-84 entirely to be known just as this. Its industrial designation still betrays its heritage (Object 478DU9-1) (16/)
With recent news that, one way or another, Ukraine is looking to procure more Oplot BMs, it appears that, despite Russian invasion and the struggles Ukraine phased to produce Oplots-Ts at a timely rate when the type was sold to Thailand, Object 478 may still have a future (END)
Aside I couldn't fit anywhere - while the majority of T-80UDs were made with Kontakt 5 ERA, it appears a few of the earliest examples had Kontakt 1, which gives their turret a different look more reminiscent of the T-64 and T-80BV.
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Yesterday, we had the opportunity to visit Serbia's "Zastava 2024" military exhibition at the Batajnica airfield. Here are the highlights that caught our attention: 🧵
The stars of the tank section were the modernized M-84AS1/2 main battle tanks, equipped with thermal cameras and a remotely controlled weapon station. Their protection has been improved with the addition of explosive reactive armor and slat armor.
No changes have been made to the engine or drivetrain though. Currently, Serbia is modernizing its M-84 fleet to this standard at a rate of about one tank per month.
Tangently related to today's Flashback Friday, there is a specific atrocity committed during the campaign of France in which Panzer IV, seemingly Ausf D, were involved, on which more light was shed back in 2019.
On June 20 1940, German troops massacred a number of French African Tirailleurs of the 25th Senegalese Tirailleurs Regiment at Chasselay, near Lyon after they faced significant resistance there
For the longest time after the massacre, until 2019, the assumption generally was that the massacre was undertaken by the 3rd SS division Totenkopf, or sometimes the tank element of infantry regiment Großdeutschland, both present near the location
When it comes to one tank being used to portray another in cinema, one that I've always found to be very interesting are French M24 Chaffees that were used to portray Panthers in 1966 movie "Is Paris Burning" and subsequent movies.
These were surprisingly high effort, being given fake zimmerit, fake bun barrel with muzzle brake, modified mantlets, new sideskirt, fake exhausts, and even an MG42 stuck on top.
Especially keeping in mind that, around the same point in time, the Hollywood standard could just be to paint a M47 in sand colour and give it a Balkenkreuz, despite much higher budgets.
The KV-4 program can be regarded as one of the most unsuccessful and short-lived tank design ideas of the Soviet Union during the WW2 period.
This is especially true considering its expectations, the caliber of the engineers behind it, J. Y. Kotin and N. L. Dukhov, to name a few, and those who ordered it to begin with, including Stalin himself.
Many designs were proposed in what was essentially a drawing competition, some quite sensible, while some were less so. One rather forgettable design was that by M. I. Kreslavsky, who did not receive any awards for his design.
With little attention paid to the idea of fighting another major European land war or another peer-military in the decades since the end of WW1, the British military had, for the most part, focussed along two lines of thought:
a fast and light strike force emphasizing manoeuver and an infantry-dominated force supported by tanks. It was not until 1939, on the eve of war with Germany, that the idea that the Army might need special tanks...
...to avoid the onset of static warfare or break a deadlock over a heavily defended area might be needed. It was not until Sir Albert Stern, a man with a great deal of experience of exactly those sorts of problems suggested such a tank in June 1938...
The United States entered WW1 late and came without any tanks. They finished the war with none of their own tanks seeing combat either, having to rely on the French and British for this new weapon of war.
The closest they came in 1918 was the diminutive Ford 3-ton tank, a two man turretless box with barely enough armor to keep out enemy bullets and a pale shade of the sort of tank they would need.
The French hated it, the Army hated it, the only love it got was from Ford Motor Company looking for a juicy contract and the Ordnance Board eager to keep costs in check.