Thread by @ruzu_carlos

since none of the lolitards are answering the question, I guess ill just explain it pretty quickly as an outsider

https://twitter.com/2ndPlaceKev/status/1668366217357275136

TLDR: theres a couple of main types of lolicons I have seen
> people that treat lolis like other anime women tropes (tsundere, kuudere, etc.)
> people that uses lolis as a praxis of control over consent

There's a waifu culture in general Japanese otaku culture and part of why lolis are seen as "normal" is more or less because women in Asia just generally look younger than Western women and thus focus a lot more on appearing cute to appeal to their culture

https://twitter.com/CrimsonFenrir7/status/1567998866099941379

Unfort the above thread is locked so I'll use screens but tldr: Lolicon as a concept is so normalized over there that they use the terms "legal loli" and "irl loli" unironically, especially in pornographic contexts over in Japan and iirc general Asia

This is also the same reason why lolicon in Japanese doesn't outright translate to pedophile despite what Google translate says. It should be known that these online translators aren't perfect so relying on them for cultural context is cringe

https://twitter.com/red_devil330/status/1645989072756670466?s=20

As for why they are usually minors though, thats actually very basic: A lot of lolis tend to come from Shounen which is essentially the manga/anime genre aimed at young dudes. Shoujo tech falls into this as well but I rarely am into Shoujo myself so I can't speak on that

That said, over a third of their audience is 18 or below and in general the target demo tends to be 12-18 based on sources
tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.…
animenewsnetwork.com/news/2019-04-2…
cbr.com/four-main-shon…

(apologies for the CBR sourcing but its for variety of sources)

So the girls being underage is way less likely to add to the fetish as non anime mfs tend to argue but essentially to appeal to the demographic. You would have to hold the same standard for the male protagonists who themselves are usually minors

As for the second category, I'm clearly not as versed in this and its weird but here goes:
TLDR: a lot of lolicons like said lolis because they relate to the lolis themselves and not neccessarily want to sexualize them

hiding names but when I first friended my current group of anime friends on Discord, I asked them this same question.
These are the responses I got

To summarize the positions of these group of people, they generally, especially after seeing therapists, get recommended to engage their trauma or mental issues via fiction as a way to abstract their issues in a safe environment

This is especially common for CSA surivivors and explains partly why the rape fantasies among the public can be so high

https://twitter.com/red_devil330/status/1569067000512614401

https://twitter.com/red_devil330/status/1572150638233919490

So yeah, theres the context. Take it or leave it, lolicon is still odd imo but I hope this shows how this isn't pedo coping for yall normies.

Stay safe and protect one another

Forgot to add but yes, this shit is effectively confirmed to be separated from actual pedophilia and pedophilia advocates: journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.11…

not only is there a lack of history correlating the two outright, but psychologically it just doesn't add up based on the studies

ofc theres pedos occasionally in lolicon spaces like every other space

and like any other space, they fucking hate them

again, not revealing the people behind these discord messages but these people actually helped with exposing that map I shat on a couple of days ago via discord

That said, I will rant a little bit, I think its genuinely retarded that lolicons don't know how to argue their own hobby properly, especially when they talk such a big game about gatekeeping

The best way to show how this isn't pedophilic is by showing actual genuine studies and science to show that. You owe it to yourself, the so called "loli community" and generally even the antis you dislike to prevent them from being antis

The worst of these is when people try to argue that lolicon prevents pedophiliac rape as a form of "safe cp"

not only is this demonstrably false, but it protrays lolicon as related to cp when its not since the genre is about the body type, not the age

https://twitter.com/CunnyDatabase/status/1424876824320950279

Regardless of real world politics, CP (or properly csem) has nothing to do with drawn shit. otherwise programs made for taking down CP wouldn't tell you outright to stop sending it

https://twitter.com/loot_hootie/status/1571520172950708224