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A friend asked me my take on this thread. So I’m seeing it a bit late. As someone who knows A LOT about Democratic politics, this is all true. If you were asking my own take I’d probably focus less on the anger abt getting exiled, though that is definitely part of it.
2/ In Star Wars terms, these two were on the dark side before they got the boot. Many on the left say yeah they were always triangulators and centrists and all that. They suck. And they may suck because of that. But that’s not what I’m talking about. I mean, the dark side.
3/ The best way to illustrate this is that there are a number of groups which come out of that world, you know, more centrist politics, a third way and all that. Those folks are all united abs frankly on fire saying these folks are dangerous liars. Rick refers to them.
4/ So maybe you’re from AOC style politics or more market oriented politics. But all these groups can agree that the Penn-Jacobsons are lying sleazeballs. Watch out. These are folks sponging up GOP high roller money for the sole purpose of ideally electing Ron DeSantis but ….
5/ if that’s not possible electing Donald Trump. The goal is 100% to prevent the re-election of Joe Biden. It’s 100% that. They know to a certainty their candidate won’t win. The only other thing I’d add that’s not in Rick’s account is don’t ignore Mark’s advertising …
6/ holding company “Stagwell Group”. That’s the formal for profit arm of Penn-Jacobson Inc. that’s how Mark owns Zombie Harris Poll, a sad afterlife of a once respected poll. He also gave Harvard University some cash to slap their name on it. Sad. Mark bought Harris …
7/ for parts and relaunched it as a kind of Rasmussen Poll 2.0. Sad. Anyway, that’s the story. Everything Rick says is 100% accurate. My points merely complement the story, add some details based on the world I come out of. Two awkward but feral gimbuses, cast out…
8/ by the forces of light and plotting with Harlan Crow to take their revenge, supporting Trump on the down-low and often loud and proud. And of course taking in people not closely involved with politics who wish our politics was less divisive.
9/ And I shld add, yes, most beltway political news orgs are totally taken in/go along with this, frequently referring to them as “the centrists”. They’re not. A group like Third Way is an actual centrist group in the context of D politics. They’re dedicating big resources …
10/ to out the Penn-Jacobson cabal for what they are. Politico, Axios, Punchbowl mostly go along with the charade or present the NL v Third Way stuff as I fighting among “the centrists”. That’s false. It’s a pure fraud. Like I said, the dark side. Sad.

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