I just saw around 30 minutes of Disney's #Wish. CCO Jennifer Lee was there to give us a lovely introduction to the film. Mind = blown.
I'm gonna make a little thread, I'm not giving away spoilers but feel free to ask questions, I'm under no embargo so I can talk freely :D
We saw quite a lot of scenes and two (!!) songs, Asha's solo "More than this" (I think that's the title?) and another song set right after she meets Star. Some animation was still in layout and vfx were mostly missing, but lots of finished stuff too!
Everyone that complained about the animation looking like "they stuck a hand drawn filter on it"... boy how you're wrong... Believe me they didn't show the good stuff in the trailers yet 😂
The backgrounds are absolutely gorgeous, I'm still trying to process what I saw 😳 like how the heck did they manage to get into that level of detail AND give it a painterly, stylized and absolutely hand drawn/watercolor-ish feel - and it's all CG!!
The backgrounds looks like this. It's Gustaf Tenggren in CG. What the heck Disney.
Jennifer Lee literally showed us a side to side of a Tenggren background for Snow White and a Lisa Keene concept art for Wish 😭 I jumped up on my seat 😭
It's heavily inspired by Snow White and Sleeping Beauty and she said it's something that Chris Buck and Mike Giamo have been working on for a long time but only managed to do now because the technology just wasn't there yet
She also mentioned how sometimes the visdev people would do amazing stuff in concept art only for it to be lost with the translation to CG... With this one they really wanted to let the artists' vision shine through.
I don't know how they did it with the characters 😂 in the unfinished sequences they were rendered with the usual Disney CG look and then in the final render they're blended SO WELL in that 2D/painted world. Can't wait to know more about how they did it
I really liked the characters so far. Asha is beautiful and has a bubbly personality, she reminded me of Anna. And yes, there is an actual "old style" villain with a villain song!! He also has a duet with Asha apparently.
The main theme is the power of wishes - how far are you willing to go and what happens when your wish *doesn't* come true. Do you give up? Do you keep fighting? Would you erase it from your mind so you're not reminded anymore that you didn't succeed or would you keep the memory?
And so on. Lee showed us a lot of spectacular scenes but the one that stuck with me is a dinner scene where Asha and her family discuss these themes. Very well written, with a meaningful script. I just keep thinking about it.
Maybe I'll add more later, but let me just say how excited I am to witness this new era of experimental animation!! I remember back in 2010 when we were researching about Rapunzel Unbraided which was supposed to have this painterly feel, and look at them now!! 😭
@farerb That was probably badly phrased in English, forgive me, I always struggle with negative sentences like that one 😂
There are so many typos in this thread and this is stressing me out since it's gaining a bit of attention 🥲 I'm sorryyyy 🥲
@LiveAHercules @Frances48452643 But basically he chooses what wishes to grant according to what *he* thinks it's best for his kingdom (and himself). I think part of Asha's journey is helping people understand that they don't need the king to make their wish come true
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See, I spoke to him and Clements a couple times when Moana came out and it was sooo clear to me that the movie we were seeing on the big screen was not the movie those two wanted to make.
I had known for years, even before they officially announced Moana, that they were trying to make a 2D movie which then turned into the first fully Meander movie. I was told by another director that was at Disney at the time
So when I had the chance to meet them I asked about 2D, of course, like what happened to that previous version? And I kid you not, they told me they went with CGI because water is impossible to animate in 2D... I was like... you guys made THE LITTLE MERMAID