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So I’ve been away for a while and probably for the first time, I think I’m behind the curve in the #OriginsofCOVID debate.

Some recent happenings led me back. Before I venture onto that, here’s a lil rundown, a repeat of sorts, of what I have been carrying with me all this time.
It’s late 2019 and hospitals in Wuhan were overflowing with patients having SARS-like symptoms. Strict measures were put in place to restrict the flow of information.

In early 2020, news started trickling out of China - and I distinctly remember watching it with horror.
Wuhan was far outside the hot zone where SARS-like coronaviruses of such kind had been previously identified.

Wuhan was also known to a specialized scientific community, as the home to an institute studying SARS-like viruses, especially the ones with pandemic potential.
The media was carrying on with the wet market theory as if it was obvious as gravity.

However, between the so-called “card-carrying virologists”, things were going in a very different direction.

What changed is still <redacted> last I checked.
However, things were about to change when a “motley crew” of curious minds on Twitter started asking the right questions.. things like the safety of GOF research and the going-ons of Wuhan lab in particular, the provenance of RaTG13 (a whole lot of it was shrouded in mystery)...
...and how unseemly adapted SARS2 was for human transmission. The turning point came in the form of an MSc thesis written by a Chinese medical student - at least for me and I believe a large majority of people I know.

Six miners fell ill from...well, you know how the story goes.
New clues popped up from time to time: EHA’s grant receipts, records of WIV databases going offline, Chinese grant records, WIV patents, unreported expeditions to Mojiang, previously unpublished SARSr-CoVs and more WIV theses - all largely hidden from the public eye.
This opened up a can of worms. A theory ridiculed at first, started being embraced.

Nevertheless, we were still skimming the surface.
All this while DRASTIC was digging deeper by the day, finding helpful and valuable information, archiving, brainstorming and documenting them in numerous threads, articles and research papers, and providing data on the various likelihoods.
In time, as more inconsistencies were being uncovered, there was a progressive but inexorable change of perspective in favor of the lab-origin theory.

That’s also when the Chinese state media started trashing DRASTIC, and me - and yes it’s in my resume.
In parallel two commissions of inquiry were at work - having members who had directly funded the research at Wuhan. I didn’t expect much to begin with, but holy shit, this was next level.

Thankfully through FOIA lawsuits, the public learned more about the EcoHealth opprobrium.
As science was being impeded by mischaracterizing, removing, or disregarding relevant scientific information... a select group of scientists and journalists kept the fight going to have a realistic chance of an investigation.
...And the work continues.

The next big revelation came in Sept 2021, with the DEFUSE proposal - a grant application, although rejected but it put all of their research plans together into a cogent whole.

This led a lot to reexamine their assumptions.
Even the hardcore fanatical supporters of zoonosis were perplexed and outraged.

But seemingly, they have moved on from pangolins, to civets and then to raccoon dogs as the culprits.

But just how convincing is their theory?
VIRAL by @Ayjchan and @mattwridley was a huge milestone. It synthesized both the origin theories impartially and got many to grasp what the key pieces of evidence are.
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Meanwhile, papers with grossly false and unscientific arguments which should already have been invalidated during peer review, were still being published.
Thinking back, I have had critical, informed conversations with a lot of virologists about the growing circumstantial evidence of a lab leak. Some would say this is sky-is-blue sort of thing: lab accidents are a well-known phenomenon, and mistakes happen, more than you’d think.
Some would categorically ignore all evidence pointing towards the lab.

And some were conservative on what can be inferred, wishing to keep all options open, exclude nothing.

I have more respect for the latter.
Lately, even more intriguing elements have come forth. Ben Hu along with two other colleagues, Ping Yu & Yan Zhu, are said to have carried out risky experiments at the WIV, and the first to be infected. If true, it would largely correspond to expectations.
US is expected to release previously classified documents – which could include the names of the three Wuhan scientists.

I so wish that there is more clarity on this.
Even with gaps in the data, there’s admirable clarity on the nature of the research that took place in Wuhan - and the coexisting secrecy.

Answers still lie somewhere - but until and unless it’s made public, it would prevent a lot of us from drawing the right conclusions.
What matters is the impact of the research. If you’re trying to do assess the spillover potential of a SARS-like virus, especially ones with pandemic potential, it might, well, you know, spill over and cause a pandemic. What really matters is the truth.
One more thing I learned during my course of inquiry, is that although the COVID origins theory has advanced on multiple fronts, and has implications for literally everyone, it has mostly been a virology battle. This makes sense, but I feel that there has to be a larger debate.
So, are there things that are yet to be clarified? Yes, a whole lot. Have the baseline perceptions of the risk of lab accidents changed? I would hope so. Has funding risky science become more accountable and transparent to whom it was supposed to serve? I don’t know, you tell me.
I'm probably off base and missing a great deal of nuances.

But to finish with, I feel fortunate to be part of this story. My Drastic mates from varied geography and background - you have been compelling.
It is a great pleasure to have known certain scientists, journos, and anonymous people who were very prompt and helpful to me, encouraging me all the way.

Not to mention those working behind the scenes to uncover the truth.

I regret that I couldn't keep in touch.
So anyways, just my thoughts.

And here I am again hoping that the momentum to demand transparency from these institutions will bear fruit.

Thank you! I will be back for more.

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Jun 20
WSJ has confirmed the names of the sick Wuhan researchers. This is perhaps the most important additional clue that has come to light. This also fits with all the other insights we have.

I’ll just try to put some perspective.
Ben Hu was part of the original DEFUSE proposal, and they planned to incorporate furin cleavage sites into SARS-like coronaviruses.

I think everyone knows this by now.
Ben Hu specialized in conducting experiments on humanized mice – in order to gain information about their potential transmissibility and danger to humans.
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Apr 17, 2022
One of the deeply under appreciated aspects of #OriginofCovid is that, according to EcoHealth docs, in 2018, WIV had over 180 viral strains that could bridge the gap between SARS2 and RaTG13/BANAL. Over 125 viral strains in the spike range of SARS2 (and could evade mAb/vaccines). ImageImage
And thousands of samples from where the nearest relatives were found.

Add to this, the extensive US and Chinese state-funded projects in the 2018-19 timeframe, with the same kind of work (with live viruses in BSL-2 & -3) that could’ve led to SARS2.
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Having some elementary knowledge of statistical probability, I would go so far as to say that while not impossible that some wild host brought it to Wuhan, the odds are like hitting a cosmic lottery.
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Apr 9, 2022
So a number of other people have been saying the same thing—that they learnt of the Wuhan outbreak in early/mid-December 2019. See some examples below.
JP Prasad, who runs Alberta's supply procurement system "heard disturbing news about a 'strange flu' in Wuhan, in early December", and began stocking up on masks and equipments.
edmontonjournal.com/opinion/column…
“Around December 20, 2019, I learned about the emergence of the coronavirus,” says a frontline doctor from a hospital in Xiaogan City, 66 kilometers away from Wuhan.
archive.ph/MnZrn
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Mar 18, 2022
#OriginOfCovid: Summary of what is known thus far..

- The precursor of SARS2 likely originated in bats in Yunnan/SE Asia.
- There is a direct and documented pathway from the regions where bats harbour these viruses to Wuhan, via WIV. Other ways of getting to Wuhan are possible.
- Wuhan Institute of Virology was the closest place where closely related viruses existed.
- We don’t know where the first cases occurred but it was first identified at the Huanan market after it came to the attention of the doctors in Wuhan in late December 2019.
- We don’t know when the outbreak really started but most studies indicate it was sometime between September and November 2019.
- Susceptible species were being sold at the Huanan market where some of the first (known) cases were identified.
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Mar 11, 2022
Daszak examines his own coronavirus research in Wuhan, and issues a clean bill of health for himself. You’ll just have to read it…
theintercept.com/2022/03/11/cov…
Daszak: humanized mice experiments weren't conducted by us.

So EcoHealth helped WIV import ans successfully breed humanized mice in 2018 and we are supposed to believe that they didn’t do that work although it was already funded by NIH? ImageImage
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Mar 10, 2022
A key question about COVID's origin has been: how it got to Wuhan? At this stage, nobody knows for sure, but let's explore the two competing scenarios:

1) SARS2 was brought to the Wuhan market.
2) SARS2 was brought to the Wuhan lab.

This is important, so follow me... /🧵
Scenario #1: SARS2 was brought to the Wuhan market

Assuming this to be true, then there were two separate spillovers. First, it spilled over from bats to an intermediate host. Next, it spilled over from the intermediate host to humans.
What we know for sure is that all genetically close relatives of SARS2 were found in bats in Yunnan or Southeast Asia – far from Wuhan. So, one would expect that the first spillover (bat to intermediate host) took place in this region, where bats harbour these viruses.
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