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Jul 20, 2023 18 tweets 6 min read Read on X
I continue to see talks of high unexplained excess deaths in England and Wales in S1 2023

This is NOT confirmed by data by occurrence date and is an artefact resulting from
/ reporting by registration date
/ policy of only registering deaths once cause is assigned

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Just to make my point crystal clear

The S1 2023 deaths by registration date excl covid are POSITIVE and high which signals lots of unexplained deaths

Yet, when using deaths by occurrence date (as one should), the same total is NEGATIVE. So in fact no/few unexplained deaths

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If you think that this effect is just the result of the fact that I used the ONS baseline which is not a proper choice

The same conclusion holds true when using the approach that CMI proposes (ie based on 2019 mortality rates and adjusted for population development)

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Why is this so? Because of TWO main factors

Factor 1: The huge wave at the end of 2022 led to an unusually high amount of 2022 deaths being registered in 2023 (I estimate 7k more than in previous years)

So deaths by registration inflate the true death toll in 2023

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But that's not the end of the story: There is a 2nd more pernicious factor playing here

E+W is unique in that it only registers deaths once cause of death is assigned

Other countries register unclear deaths under a temporary ICD code and correct it once the cause is clear

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The weakness of the E+W system is that deaths that require to go through coroners (as is often the case in younger age bands) can take a year or more before they get registered

So the death data by occurrence date takes much longer to be complete

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Just to illustrate the magnitude of the issue: I found some data by age and occurrence for England

It shows how, at the end of May 2023

/ the last 18 months of the 15-44 data
/ the last 6-9 months of the 45-64 data

were essentially materially incomplete

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Here another way to show this based for the 15-44 age band

In 2022, ONS shared the same dataset by occurrence for deaths registered up to May 2022

If you compare it with the dataset with deaths registered up to May 2023, you see how the data diverges over the last 18 months

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The registration date for many deaths in younger age bands will be MUCH later (up to 18 months) than death occurrence

This means that the data by registration date will not reflect the timely pattern of the deaths in these age bands (compare blue and black line)

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But as, I explained yesterday, this has other consequences: If, as is likely in a pandemic, there are MORE deaths going through coroners, then X months later, deaths by registration will see a (fake) increase

And this is what I suspect is currently happening in 2023 as well

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Unlike previous years, there were much more deaths registered in May-Jun 2023 than occurred

(the deaths occured is the result of an estimate made by ONS which corrects for lag and is quite precise at top level)

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As I show here, this means that almost all the excess mortality seen in the data by registration date in May-Jun 2023 is the result of deaths that occurred before May

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It took me quite a while to understand why deaths by registration were so off vs. the actual situation

What happens is that registration-based data is quite robust if one year is like another (as it was pre-pandemic)

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However, if, as is the case in a pandemic, there are "one-off" and lots of unusual events, constraints on registration capacity, etc., the data by registration date starts to be driven by noise instead of underlying death occurrences

And this what we are currently seeing

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So deaths by registration date are currently not suited for analysing excess mortality in England+Wales as it is affected by

/ much higher than usual spillover from 2022 to 2023

/ likely catch-up of past occurrences only registered now

/ timely noise in younger age bands

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@AdeleGroyer (by significant, I mean 1-2% which is essentially within band of uncertainty)

That's why I was getting more and more concerned about the difference of message between registration date data and occurrence one

But happy to be proven wrong, as you know! :-)
@AdeleGroyer And of course, just to be clear: no topline excess does not mean no excess: It could well be that there is negative excess in older age bands and more positive in younger ones

Here the data from the 65-84 which is pretty complete up to Mar 23 and there is no excess before covid Image
NB: I put this thread on hold until I clarify seemingly contradictory elements
/ I find the ONS modelled deaths remarkably accurate
/ However, they imply an unrealistic shortening of the death registration lag

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"Quasi consensus in the French Medical academy for a lab origin of covid" relayed by the normally very serious @Sciences_Avenir periodical on science

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@Sciences_Avenir What happened is that the academy
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The Guardian claims that mortality rates have not yet returned to pre-pandemic trends in England + Wales

Here the latest view using standardized rates for death OCCURRENCES (not registrations)

As you see, mortality was essentially back on pre-pandemic trends by 2023 Image
Now, if you follow mortality, you will probably say "hey, wasn't 2023 still showing a lot of excess?"

This is a spurious effect from death registrations. In 2022, the flu wave was huge and peaked in late December 2022, pushing deaths to only be registered in 2023

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Also, if you follow mortality, you will rightly ask: "but ASMR by occurrence date will only be an estimate because of registration lag, right?"

The answer is yes, but the all-age ASMR figure for 2023 is now completely stabilized and also that of 2024 will only move by 1% max

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Statbel released its 2022 deaths by cause for Belgium (speed is not the essence)

Despite having asked to "report deaths even if covid only suspected", covid deaths Sciensano during the pandemic are 20% resp 40% lower than the actual deaths due to covid in Wallonia and Flanders Image
Early in the pandemic, Belgium did something I still consider best in class

It instructed its medics to report any deaths which was only possibly covid, e.g. a person dies with covid in a home and suddenly 6 others die without test within days)

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In the first wave (with little testing), this proved a very effective tool as Belgium was the only country among those with big waves in western Europe where its rapid covid death count was only marginally lower than the eventual actual toll per death register

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Sep 7, 2024
This tweet is a masterpiece of "writing to effect"

The statements on LC made by this Lab attracted much attention

Let go through them by adding the figs as they are known from the UK, the ONLY place in the world with a clue on its infx and potential LC

Hint: There is much spin
STATEMENT 1: "incurable chronic disease"

This is technically correct: You can not take a drug and make it go away, there is only hope and prayers

BUT

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Here is what the UK data says:

/ End 2023, 2% of the pop reported LC for >156 wks,

/ of these, 25% of these say it "affects daily life a lot"

/ The % with very long has not changed much since 2022

(PS: links to UK data is provided at the end of the thread)

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Jul 29, 2024
Australia released its mortality data up to April 24

So far, 2024 is
- in line with the expectations from the Mortality Working Group when including pandemic years
- 5% above those from pre-pandemic trends (of which roughly half is directly attributable to covid)

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I still believe that a large part of the "unexplained" excess against pre-pandemic trends is actually just a "shift forward of the annual curves" from pink to blue (due to changes in immunity structures and covid being more contagious)

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In fact, my theory of "forward shift of annual swing (which I first suspected on Germany almost 2 years ago) is given a bit of a boost by the Mortality Working Group in Australia

Look at the violet curve: it clearly includes a "shift forward" effect :-)

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Jul 26, 2024
Through its infection and Long Covid survey, ONS provides everything needed for ballpark estimates on the current situation for the 16-64

Risk of developing condition end 2023
Overall: ~1.5%
Severe: ~0.3%

% of pop with condition end 2023
Overall ~3%
Severe ~0.5%

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Everything comes out of the ONS winter infection survey

It is based on a random sample of the population which
/ got tested every week
/ self reported LC by
a) severity
b) when it started (less than 12 weeks ago, 12-53 weeks ago, etc.)

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Source: ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulati…
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Then one can deduce the risk of developing long covid "end 2023" (formally the data is for Feb 2024 but hey, sue me!)

One simply
- takes the wave 4 figs of LC developed over the last 4-11 weeks
- relates them to the infections over the 12 previous wks as per survey

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