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@spumdonor
Aug 3 • 3 tweets • 1 min read Twitter logo Read on Twitter
Discourse about anime wasn't that different in the 90s-2000s. Fans would say "Why can't Hollywood make good animation for adults, too?" & Disney Adults would laugh & say "Oh you mean tentacle rape????"

Anime is pretty much mainstream now but the Disney Adults still scoff & sneer
As far as animation, the 90s was the last time Disney dominated the culture entirely through the output of animated films. The Disney Channel wasn't even an institution yet. Today they just buy other media franchises like Star Wars and Marvel to maintain their cultural hegemony
By the time they were relying on Pixar, they weren't even a market monopoly anymore thanks to Dreamworks & the other studios started cranking out CG features. I think that's why they shifted their attention to the tween market with live action Disney Channel shows & pop stars

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You guys know there's a criminally under-appreciated Superman series from the 90s where the characters don't sound like neurotic millennial writers in therapy & everyone is hot in a sexually dimorphic way because the designs are Bruce Timm & not Diet Anime? https://t.co/OtakYwRzhx
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"Oh FUCK Tomboy Lois just bent over weeeeew"

Bruce Timm, 1996: What if Lex Luthor's driver/bodyguard was a hot chick just because Image
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Jul 10
Good animation is about expressiveness, not "smoothness"

But "animated expressions" are defined for most people by Disney, which isn't just an art style but a school of acting that's very broad

Animation acting can be subtle & nuanced, & still "cartoony," but you rarely see it
That's what I was trying to get at here. It's still Goofy and Pete, two anthropomorphic animal characters whose basic designs haven't changed much since the 1940s-50s, but there's some real humanity to this acting. It's not just big, aimless gesticulating

Warners did the best cartoony animation acting ever in the golden age because you had some of the most technically skilled animators in history giving real humanity (that lacked in Disney) to funny, bigger-than-life characters. You see all kinds of acting dynamics Disney avoided
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Jul 8
Pretty sure this used to be called cartooning / animation
Like was "You're dethpicable" really such an amazing line that having Daffy make a funny face would detract from it
Watch some old cartoons sometimes Mark. There's actually not a lot of dialogue! It's mostly funny drawings! If Spongebob is too much for you, there are plenty of Adult Animated Sitcoms with lots of verbal jokes & almost zero funny expressions!
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Jun 19
What's to say? It's a stiff bland modern style cartoon

Actual hispanic cartoonists are still in 2005 aesthetically. Nothing's evolved since then, people still like wacky cartoony stuff & anime. All that's changed is anime & Ren & Stimpy inspired stuff are now seen as problematic
it's the taste most animation fans develop online, from simply being exposed to everything there is. "yeah golden age american stuff and stuff inspired by it is good, a bunch of anime is good"
like if you want more serious but still stylized stuff you got anime, if you want expressive comedy stuff you have looney tunes, ren & stimpy etc

of course it's not a zero sum game there's cartoony comedy anime and more serious stylized western cartoons like what Genndy's doing
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Jun 19
Animation YTers operate exactly like corporate news media, they take a controversy & reduce it to only its most superficial aspects in a way that doesn't offend, or inform

I'm sure this guy's seen the Sergio / Güero Balazos meme, but that's too incendiary for him to even mention Image
This got 50k fucking likes even though the meme's been around for years but yeah I'm sure it doesn't even warrant a cursory mention in a video about the Oye Primos backlash

My guess is he didn't want to show it because then he'd have to explain why it's wrong/bad & then he'd be opening himself up to criticism from people who think the meme is funny, a lot of whom are hispanic

These guys only go after the safest targets, like unsold John K pilots
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"Fixed" is an important movie because it's a mainstream adult animated comedy created by an actual cartoonist / animator

That's different than being written by millennial stoner comedians & then handed off to animators like Sausage Party, or the Lonely Island Chip n' Dale movie
I hope it's good but importantly I hope it does well, because that might result in more actual animated movies for adults getting made in America
We're still suffering from not being in the timeline where Ralph Bakshi and John K made Bobby's Girl in the late 80s, or where Bill Kopp got to make that sexy jungle girl adventure-comedy in the 90s

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