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The most important thing to know about Trump's opposition to the government's proposed protective order is this: He wants the freedom to disclose witness interviews, recordings, etc. conducted outside the grand jury. 1/ Image
That would theoretically allow him to reveal the names and publish the statements of those who spoke to DOJ/the Special Counsel *outside the grand jury* and/or could be cooperating. 2/
Yes, Trump instead floats treating "information regarding the government's confidential sources or which may jeopardize witness security" as sensitive. But he wouldn't treat witness transcripts, recordings, & interview reports as automatically sensitive. Ask yourself why. 3/ Image
By limiting protection to those materials that implicate "confidential sources" or would "jeopardize witness security," Trump would force the Special Counsel to first identify and then fight over which materials do and don't qualify for confidential treatment at this stage. 4/
At the very least, as one of my colleagues noted, that would create yet another mechanism to slow things down. And delay is always Trump's first rule of litigation. 5/
But it's more than timing. A protective order that allows Trump to reveal the identity of witnesses and discuss the substance of their statements outside the grand jury could 1) prejudice potential jurors; and 2) intimidate, if not endanger, some of the most helpful witnesses. 6/
Why? Because those with truly valuable truths to tell are usually not strangers to the government. Often, they will have proffered or met with the government before testifying before the grand jury; in other cases, they may never have even been called before a grand jury. 7/
Finally, even as to those documents Trump agrees are sensitive, he doesn't want to them under seal if and when he quotes them in briefs. Instead, he proposes including "Sensitive Materials in any public filing without Leave of Court if all sensitive information is redacted." 8/ Image
But how, even after the government selectively marks certain materials as sensitive, as Trump proposes, is he supposed to know which portions are, in fact, sensitive? Or does he think that should be his call too? FIN.

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Aug 7
NEW: Special Counsel's team just filed a reply on the protective order: Trump "proposed an order designed to allow him to try this case in the media rather than in the courtroom;" their proposed order would "safeguard witness privacy & the integrity of these proceedings." 1/
They also note that during a Trump lawyer's "full Ginsburg" on all 5 Sunday shows, he referenced Pence's anticipated testimony, stating twice that Pence would be their best or one of their best witnesses. They then quote Trump's opposite tone in social media posts about Pence. 2/
But the real focus is why Trump won't agree to their standard order: Because "it would not permit the defendant or his counsel to publicly disseminate, and publicize in the media, various materials obtained from the Government in discovery." 3/
Read 10 tweets
Aug 7
NEW: In opposing the Special Counsel's proposed protective order tonight, Trump's team accuses "the Biden Justice Department" of "wait[ing] over two-and-a-half years to seek this indictment, during an election cycle in which President Trump is the leading candidate." 1/
That any prosecutor could have issued the Special Counsel's 45-page indictment right after 1/6 is ludicrous, especially given that Trump and his allies fought hard, including through protracted litigation, to prevent DOJ & then Smith from obtaining proof. 2/
But more significantly, Team Trump knows well that Jack Smith is not Biden or Garland & was appointed to give Trump as fair a shake as possible, despite his declaring his candidacy roughly 2 years in advance to serve the narrative he's rolling out now. 3/
Read 6 tweets
Aug 5
If like @JoyceWhiteVance & others, you predicted the Special Counsel’s Office would not just let Trump’s threatening language slide, you were right. Judge Chutkan could order briefing to be completed before the first 8/28 conference—or call in the parties beforehand.
In the meantime, within that same motion, the government says it stands ready to produce discovery to Trump as soon as a protective order is entered. And that discovery includes grand jury materials, witness statements, & materials obtained through sealed search warrants. 2/ Image
And it also includes recordings and transcripts of witness interviews (e.g., outside the grand jury) plus sealed orders obtained by the government’s “filter team” related to this case. 3/ Image
Read 7 tweets
Aug 2
Per @axios this a.m., Trump is roughly the 1,097th person indicted for January 6-related crimes. Marinate in that. More than a thousand people have already been charged in connection with the disruption he allegedly exploited—and who went to the Capitol at his direction. 1/
Meanwhile, given what went down in the dining room off the Oval Office on January 6, as discussed in indictment paragraphs 108-111 and throughout the J6 report, I was struck by former WH photographer Pete Souza’s description of that dining room during Obama’s tenure. 2/
Obama, Souza says, kept a George Healy painting in that dining room. Called “The Peacemakers,” Souza writes “it depicts the historic March 27, 1865, strategy session by the Union high command during the final days of the Civil War.” 3/

whitehousehistory.org/photos/the-pea…
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Jul 29
On 7/14, NYT reported that a "low-level employee" of the Trump Organization received a target letter relating to the Mar-a-Lago case "in recent weeks" after testifying to a D.C. grand jury in May. His lawyer was Stan Woodward. 1/
nytimes.com/2023/07/14/us/…
But the new defendant in the superseding indictment, Carlos De Oliveira, has been represented by John Irving at least since late May. 2/

nytimes.com/2023/05/31/us/…
Meanwhile, like the unnamed employee who received the target letter NYT reported in mid-July, Yuscil Taveras a) testified before a D.C. grand jury in May; and b) is represented by Stan Woodward. And he’s never been charged. 3/

nytimes.com/2023/05/31/us/…
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Jul 28
While many of us awaited an indictment out of D.C. this week, Manhattan D.A. Alvin Bragg spent nearly 40 minutes on public radio and at the very end, talked about the timing of all of these Trump trials. And what he had to say was *interesting.* 1/

wnyc.org/story/manhatta…
While flagging his 3/24 2024 trial date, he said that "if and when" another indictment or indictments come, "we'll see what happens to the schedule. We have a firm trial date ...[but] in matters like this, you know, judges will ... confer & take a very broad lens on justice." 2/
Though insistent that ultimately "judges set the trial schedule," he also said he would "not sit on ceremony" about the timing or order of the trials, would "take a broad look at what justice requires," and if/when judges talked about schedules, he would follow their lead. 3/
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