🧵 A Brief Refutation of the "LPT" or the Logical Problem of the Trinity
Aristotelian maxim: "Things that are identical to a third thing are [also] identical to each other." Now let's apply it to the Trinity:
The Father is the divine essence. The Son is the divine essence. Therefore, the Father is the Son.
The reasoning seems to be valid, right? Well, no. Because this is only true if the persons were both materially and formally identical with the divine essence. Explanation:
Material identity is identity in entity or reality. Therefore things which are really distinct are materially distinct. But the Father and the Son are not really distinct from that third entity or thing, namely, the divine essence.
On the other hand, formal identity is identity in the same proper nature, or in the same definition. Therefore things are formally distinct which are distinct according to their nature, or definitions.
E.g.: Man is a rational animal, there is no formal identity between animal and rational, because the definition of animal is different from the definition of rational; but there is material identity in this case, because man is an animal and rational by the same entity or nature.
But the concepts of paternity and filiation differ from the divine essence, for one is relative, the other, absolute. Hence, there's a diversity of notions in God, but not a diversity of distinct realities or entities.
For this reason, St. Thomas says that this maxim is true only if they're identical to the third thing both in reality and in concept, but not if they're identical only in reality, yet diverse in concept or notion. (Cf. ST. I, q. 28, a. 3, ad 1)
Thus, since the persons are really the same as the divine essence, but not the same notionally or in concept, they're not synonymous terms or concepts. Hence, the formal concepts of paternity and filiation oppose each other, which suffices for a real distinction.
And since the opposites cannot be identified, and the paternity and filiation imply opposition, they're really distinguished. From this we can conclude that the Aristotelian maxim is verified in the Divine realm as well, but what opponents miss is material and formal identity.
Fr. Emmanuel Doronzo, O.M.I. (1903-1976) last of Scholastic manual writers responds to this objection in his Theologia Dogmatica, vol. 2 in the following manner:
And this is how one can escape the "Logical problem of the Trinity" which is used by Muslims and infidels against the Christians.
The end. 🧵
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🧵 Exposing errors of a man who bears the name of Great St. Augustine
This guy said that according to Florence, there are two principles and causes of the Spirit, now whether he said it because of ignorance or because he's a liar, I don't care. But it needs to be addressed, So: https://t.co/Vs2kP8AYIG
1. According to the Council of Florence, the Father and the Son are one principle and one cause of the Holy Spirit's eternal procession. There are no two principles and two causes, that is, in fact, polytheism. Hence the Holy Fathers at Florence anathematized this view:
2. I can produce testimony of Greek fathers that affirmed the Florentine doctrine, but since this guy is obsessed with St. Augustine, I'll just provide quotes where he says that 1) the Son receives spiration from the Father in eternal generation and gives Spirit his essence...
🧵Jean Baptiste Gonet (1616-1681) ✝️ destroying the objection of so-called theologians (William Lane Craig, Ryan Mullins, Dale Tuggy, etc.) who attack and deny the orthodox doctrine of Eternal Generation of the Son (1/7)
It is often objected by the non-orthodox "Christians" that no procession can take place in numerically one and the same nature, so they deny the orthodox doctrine and propose different heretical models, all of which fall either into tritheism or modalism. (2/7)
Here's how Gonet replies to the common objection in his Clypeus Theologiae Thomisticae: (3/7)
🧵1/27 Divine Aseity: A Thread on Different Kinds of Aseity in Relation to the Holy Trinity
P.S.: This is going to be the last thread because it addresses almost all objections regarding the topic.
2/27 Aseity (aseitas) is the denial of being from another (non ab alio). It is a negative property whereby God is distinguished from other things by the fact that He exists of himself and does not receive His being from another. Here's how Scholastic dictionary defines it:
3/27 Aseity therefore is a negative property which denotes a being who is not caused by a cause to exist, it is wholly uncaused and is its own being, or having existence by virtue of its very own essence. (ens a se) That being said, we can address the real problem.
🧵Does the Son depend on the Father? The answer is negative. Charles René Billuart responds. ⬇️
1/10 Charles René Billuart, O.P. (1685-1757) was a great French Thomist theologian of 18th century who wrote many great works, including his masterpiece commentary on St. Thomas' Summa Theologiae.
2/10 It is argued by many, especially in modern discourse that since the Son is generated by the Father, he depends on him. Some even go further and claim that the Father himself depends on the Son in terms of being a Father.