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@stevieanntas @Caecavelry2 @Oneiorosgrip @StefanoZambell5 @Lilies09 Consider that kids in father-only homes have no difference in incarceration rate than kids from two-parent homes () and there was an over 25% drop in homicide, violent crime, and property crime due to legalized abortion (, at 182).mnpsych.org/index.php%3Fop…
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@stevieanntas @Caecavelry2 @Oneiorosgrip @StefanoZambell5 @Lilies09 The citations regarding incarceration rates are from "Father-Absent Homes: Implications for Criminal Justice and Mental Health Professionals" by by: Jerrod Brown, MA, MS, MS, MS published by Minnesota Psychological Association.mnpsych.org

@stevieanntas @Caecavelry2 @Oneiorosgrip @StefanoZambell5 @Lilies09 Why is there this disparity between (a.) single mother households and (b.) both single father households and two-parent households?

Is it in society’s interests to fund the single-parent lifestyle choice women make? …or the force fathers to fund that lifestyle?

@stevieanntas @Caecavelry2 @Oneiorosgrip @StefanoZambell5 @Lilies09 There was no child support prior to the 1800's. Child support didn't exist in America 🇺🇸 prior to 1839. The idea that women were responsible enough to independently parent started in 1839 (but women needed a man's financial help as women were seen as so irresponsible otherwise).

@stevieanntas @Caecavelry2 @Oneiorosgrip @StefanoZambell5 @Lilies09 We have to allow the intentional killing of human life (through abortions) to prevent a significant percentage of the societal consequences of irresponsible parenting by single mothers (some of whom do not know who fathered their child) caused by their sexual irresponsibility.

@stevieanntas @Caecavelry2 @Oneiorosgrip @StefanoZambell5 @Lilies09 How can a man choose to become a father? The answer is: he can’t. Parenthood is a decision that rests solely with women. Why should the consequences of that decision be laid at the feet of anyone other than the person who made that decision?

@stevieanntas @Caecavelry2 @Oneiorosgrip @StefanoZambell5 @Lilies09 Women have all the choices regarding parenthood. A woman can choose to be a parent if she finds a willing sperm donor. A man cannot choose to become a parent even if he finds a willing egg donor or a willing sex partner. She who has the womb has the choice of parenthood.

@stevieanntas @Caecavelry2 @Oneiorosgrip @StefanoZambell5 @Lilies09 If a woman terminates the pregnancy, she terminates the possibility of parenthood. If she carries the pregnancy to term, she puts the responsibilities of parenthood on the father whether that male wants to be a parent or not and whether he consented to sex or impregnation or not.

@stevieanntas @Caecavelry2 @Oneiorosgrip @StefanoZambell5 @Lilies09 Under State of Kansas ex rel. Hermesmann v. Seyer, 252 Kan. 646 (1993)( | | ), parental obligations can be imposed on men even when legal consent to sex is absent.en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermesman…
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@stevieanntas @Caecavelry2 @Oneiorosgrip @StefanoZambell5 @Lilies09 A 13-year-old boy can be raped by a 30-year-old woman, but if his rapist gets pregnant, (because women have all the choices regarding parenthood) the boy has to pay child support to her — as society deems a 13-year-old boy more fiscally responsible than a 30-year-old woman.

@stevieanntas @Caecavelry2 @Oneiorosgrip @StefanoZambell5 @Lilies09 Why are men continuously viewed as more responsible by society?

Well, perhaps because men work more hours than women (on average) and thereby men get more pay than women (on average).

Afterall, there is a #GenderedLaborGap and a #GenderPayGap caused by the choices folks make.

@stevieanntas @Caecavelry2 @Oneiorosgrip @StefanoZambell5 @Lilies09 If you add up both the unpaid and paid labor, on average, men work more total time than women creating a #GenderedLaborGap pursuant to (as an example) the @BLS_gov's 2017 American Time Use Survey () and @pewresearch's data (). bls.gov/news.release/a…
pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018…

@stevieanntas @Caecavelry2 @Oneiorosgrip @StefanoZambell5 @Lilies09 @BLS_gov @pewresearch American Time Use Survey (with 2017 as an example) shows that women on average are not spending enough more time with their kids, doing chores, or anything else to explain women's lack of time working. On average, men just work more in America (considering both paid and unpaid).

@stevieanntas @Caecavelry2 @Oneiorosgrip @StefanoZambell5 @Lilies09 @BLS_gov @pewresearch Let's do the math:

Table 8A, column 1: Men: Women:
Household activities: 1.31 2.34
Caring for household: 1.01 1.85
Work-related activities: 5.46 3.37
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Total: 7.78 7.56

@stevieanntas @Caecavelry2 @Oneiorosgrip @StefanoZambell5 @Lilies09 @BLS_gov @pewresearch Now comparing the men from Table 8B to the women from Table 8C (where the youngest child is under 6): Women care for and help household members 2.08 more hours per day than men in the most extreme case presented by Table 8A, but men work 6.43 hours more per day than women.

@stevieanntas @Caecavelry2 @Oneiorosgrip @StefanoZambell5 @Lilies09 @BLS_gov @pewresearch Similarly, comparing the men from Table 8B to the women from Table 8C (where the youngest child is under 6), women do household activities for 1.91 more hours per day than men in the most extreme case presented by Table 8A, but, again, men work 6.43 hours more per day than women.

@stevieanntas @Caecavelry2 @Oneiorosgrip @StefanoZambell5 @Lilies09 @BLS_gov @pewresearch Let's do the math: Men: Women:
Household activities: 1.26 3.17
Caring for household: 1.42 3.36
Work-related activities: 6.57 0.00
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Total: 9.25 6.53

Who is laboring more?

@stevieanntas @Caecavelry2 @Oneiorosgrip @StefanoZambell5 @Lilies09 @BLS_gov @pewresearch By comparing the men from Table 8B to the women from Table 8C (using the youngest child under 6 column), we see the situation where women are unemployed and spending the most time caring not only for the children but the whole family.

@stevieanntas @Caecavelry2 @Oneiorosgrip @StefanoZambell5 @Lilies09 @BLS_gov @pewresearch Other @BLS_gov data (see below) indicates that 61% of families have both parents employed () but does not indicate whether the mothers are working full-time or part-time.

The American Time Use Survey does have an answer in Table 8B.

Let's check that out. bls.gov/opub/ted/2017/…

@stevieanntas @Caecavelry2 @Oneiorosgrip @StefanoZambell5 @Lilies09 @BLS_gov @pewresearch Let's do the math:

Table 8B, column 1: Men: Women:
Household activities: 1.23 1.90
Caring for household: 0.93 1.52
Work-related activities: 6.35 5.01
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Total: 8.51 8.43

@stevieanntas @Caecavelry2 @Oneiorosgrip @StefanoZambell5 @Lilies09 @BLS_gov @pewresearch Maybe women are forced to stay home with their kids and that causes the gap. If true, women with no kids should be working the same amount as men in the workforce as there is no reason not to since there is no reason to be on call and no extra household or childcare duties.

@stevieanntas @Caecavelry2 @Oneiorosgrip @StefanoZambell5 @Lilies09 @BLS_gov @pewresearch Let's do that math:

Table 8A, column 4: Men: Women:
Household activities: 1.54 2.21
Caring for household: 0.07 0.07
Work-related activities: 4.11 2.83
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Total: 5.72 5.11

@stevieanntas @Caecavelry2 @Oneiorosgrip @StefanoZambell5 @Lilies09 @BLS_gov @pewresearch Consider just workers:

Table 8B, column 4: Men: Women:
Household activities: 1.34 1.80
Caring for household: 0.04 0.05
Work-related activities: 6.17 5.29
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Total: 7.55 7.14

@stevieanntas @Caecavelry2 @Oneiorosgrip @StefanoZambell5 @Lilies09 @BLS_gov @pewresearch Whether you consider all currently childless folks (Table 8A) or just the ones working (Table 8B), women spend less time on paid labor and related activities and women spend less time working considering both unpaid domestic labor and paid labor added together. The pattern holds.

@stevieanntas @Caecavelry2 @Oneiorosgrip @StefanoZambell5 @Lilies09 @BLS_gov @pewresearch Moreover, homemaking is not usually physically demanding work (unlike the paid labor many men do that women typically do not). See, Women Workers and Women at Home Are Equally Inactive: NHANES 2003–2006 (available at ).ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/P…

@stevieanntas @Caecavelry2 @Oneiorosgrip @StefanoZambell5 @Lilies09 @BLS_gov @pewresearch "Women spent most of their day in sedentary (~55%) and light (~32%) activity, with limited lifestyle (~11%) and moderate vigorous physical activity (MVPA) (~2%), and there were no differences between the homemakers and [employed women]" ().ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/P…

@stevieanntas @Caecavelry2 @Oneiorosgrip @StefanoZambell5 @Lilies09 @BLS_gov @pewresearch "A recent study conducted by the PEW Research Center found that stay-at-home mothers reported spending more time on childcare, housework, leisure activities, and sleep more than working mothers" ().ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/P…

@stevieanntas @Caecavelry2 @Oneiorosgrip @StefanoZambell5 @Lilies09 @BLS_gov @pewresearch The Social Security Administration doesn't generally consider "household tasks" and "self-care" to be substantial gainful activity (even where one is getting in-kind payment like living rent-free). Social Security Ruling 83-33; POMS § DI 10501.001; 20 C.F.R. §§ 404.1572, 416.972.

@stevieanntas @Caecavelry2 @Oneiorosgrip @StefanoZambell5 @Lilies09 @BLS_gov @pewresearch Arguably, "household tasks" and "self-care" don't involve "doing significant physical or mental activities." See, SSR 83-33 (); POMS §DI 10501.001 (); 20 C.F.R. §§ 404.1572 (), 416.972 ().ssa.gov/OP_Home/ruling…
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@stevieanntas @Caecavelry2 @Oneiorosgrip @StefanoZambell5 @Lilies09 @BLS_gov @pewresearch Table 8A of the @BLS_gov’s 2019 American Time Use Survey () demonstrates that this #GenderedLaborGap continues to be a problem. It is not just something that existed as a freak accident of statistics in 2017. bls.gov/news.release/a…

@stevieanntas @Caecavelry2 @Oneiorosgrip @StefanoZambell5 @Lilies09 @BLS_gov @pewresearch 2019:
Table 8A, column 1: Men: Women:
Household activities: 1.28 2.33
Caring for household: 0.95 1.80
Work-related activities: 5.72 3.35
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Total: 7.95 7.48

@stevieanntas @Caecavelry2 @Oneiorosgrip @StefanoZambell5 @Lilies09 @BLS_gov @pewresearch Again, the first Table 8 of the @BLS_gov’s 2012 American Time Use Survey () demonstrates that the #GenderedLaborGap is not just something that existed as a freak accident of statistics in either 2017 or 2019. bls.gov/news.release/a…

@stevieanntas @Caecavelry2 @Oneiorosgrip @StefanoZambell5 @Lilies09 @BLS_gov @pewresearch Let's do that math:

1st Table 8, column 1: Men: Women:
Household activities: 1.11 2.28
Caring for household: 1.51 2.54
Work-related activities: 5.33 3.04
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Total: 7.95 7.86

@stevieanntas @Caecavelry2 @Oneiorosgrip @StefanoZambell5 @Lilies09 @BLS_gov @pewresearch So, @stevieanntas, why can't modern women handle the degree of responsibility on their own that the men of old could ()? Why can't women work as many hours as men do to support the kids that those women unilaterally chose to have? Are women less capable?

https://twitter.com/MSS3RosaFerreum/status/1695297375722745881?s=20

@stevieanntas @Caecavelry2 @Oneiorosgrip @StefanoZambell5 @Lilies09 @BLS_gov @pewresearch Well, @stevieanntas, is it really parenting that mothers are doing when women who parent without the input of the father cause their kids to have statistically worse outcomes (on average) and women can't parent without the income of a man to support their incompetent efforts?

@stevieanntas @Caecavelry2 @Oneiorosgrip @StefanoZambell5 @Lilies09 @BLS_gov @pewresearch While I'll concede that "that babies [are better off with] women at home to care for them when they are small" (despite baby formula existing), kids nevertheless have as good an outcome in a single father home as a two-parent home.

Custody used to be awarded only to fathers.

@stevieanntas @Caecavelry2 @Oneiorosgrip @StefanoZambell5 @Lilies09 @BLS_gov @pewresearch However, @stevieanntas, it is historically false to say that child support was just to support children. It is more historically accurate to say that child support exists to support rich and middle class mothers who didn't work and who were considered financially irresponsible.

@stevieanntas @Caecavelry2 @Oneiorosgrip @StefanoZambell5 @Lilies09 @BLS_gov @pewresearch The historical record shows that child support exists in America 🇺🇸 because rich and middle-class women — unlike men — were viewed by society (including by women) to be incompetent in handling their finances and incapable of working enough to care for children by themselves.

@stevieanntas @Caecavelry2 @Oneiorosgrip @StefanoZambell5 @Lilies09 @BLS_gov @pewresearch For millennia, when men were the sole custodial parents after divorce, women were neither asked nor required to pay child support. Men supported the kids of whom the men had custody.

@stevieanntas, why can’t modern women handle the same degree of responsibility as men of old?

@stevieanntas @Caecavelry2 @Oneiorosgrip @StefanoZambell5 @Lilies09 @BLS_gov @pewresearch @threadreaderapp, please unroll.

@BrassVon @Oneiorosgrip @stevieanntas @Caecavelry2 @StefanoZambell5 @Lilies09 The above quote was taken from John J. Donohue, III, and Steven D. Levitt, The Impact of Legalized Abortion on Crime, 116 The Quarterly Journal of Economics, 379, 380–381 (2001) (available at ).pricetheory.uchicago.edu/levitt/Papers/…

@BrassVon @Oneiorosgrip @stevieanntas @Caecavelry2 @StefanoZambell5 @Lilies09 "[H]igher rates of abortion in a state in the 1970s and early 1980s are strongly linked to lower crime over the period from 1985 to 1997." 116 The Quarterly Journal of Economics at 382.

@BrassVon @Oneiorosgrip @stevieanntas @Caecavelry2 @StefanoZambell5 @Lilies09 "Our results suggest that… legalized abortion will account for persistent declines of 1 percent a year in crime over the next two decades… however, this prediction might be overly optimistic [due to the Hyde Amendment]." 116 The Quarterly Journal of Economics at 415.

@BrassVon @Oneiorosgrip @stevieanntas @Caecavelry2 @StefanoZambell5 @Lilies09 There is the follow-up paper: Steven D. Levitt, Understanding Why Crime Fell in the 1990s: Four Factors that Explain the Decline and Six that Do Not, 18 Journal of Economic Perspectives, Winter, 163 (2004) (available at ).pubs.aeaweb.org/doi/pdfplus/10…

@BrassVon @Oneiorosgrip @stevieanntas @Caecavelry2 @StefanoZambell5 @Lilies09 "[A] growing body of evidence suggests an important role for legalized abortion in explaining falling crime rates two decades later." 18 Journal of Economic Perspectives, Winter 2004, at 181.

Enclosed is a chart and 3 tables showing the falling crime rates.

@BrassVon @Oneiorosgrip @stevieanntas @Caecavelry2 @StefanoZambell5 @Lilies09 "The underlying theory rests on two premises: 1) unwanted children are at greater risk for crime, and 2) legalized abortion leads to a reduction in the number of unwanted births." 18 Journal of Economic Perspectives, Winter 2004, at 181–182.

@BrassVon @Oneiorosgrip @stevieanntas @Caecavelry2 @StefanoZambell5 @Lilies09 "With respect to the first premise, the negative impact of adverse home environments generally on eventual criminality, the evidence is quite clear." 18 Journal of Economic Perspectives, Winter 2004, at 182.

@BrassVon @Oneiorosgrip @stevieanntas @Caecavelry2 @StefanoZambell5 @Lilies09 "The evidence for the second premise that legalized abortion leads to a reduction in the number of unwanted births also appears compelling." 18 Journal of Economic Perspectives, Winter 2004, at 182.

@BrassVon @Oneiorosgrip @stevieanntas @Caecavelry2 @StefanoZambell5 @Lilies09 "[T]he high-abortion states saw dramatic declines in crime relative to the low-abortion states over the next decade. The magnitude of the differences in the crime decline … was over 25 percent for homicide, violent crime and property crime." Id. at 182.

@BrassVon @Oneiorosgrip @stevieanntas @Caecavelry2 @StefanoZambell5 @Lilies09 "As that population … is replaced by new cohorts born after legalization, some ongoing reductions in crime might be expected, amounting to perhaps a 5–10 percent cumulative crime reduction over the period 2001–2010." 18 Journal of Economic Perspectives, Winter 2004, at 187.1

@BrassVon @Oneiorosgrip @stevieanntas @Caecavelry2 @StefanoZambell5 @Lilies09 However, I would be remiss if I didn't mention @colttaine's objection to the Donohue-Levitt hypothesis (outlined hereinabove) contained in
@colttaine's Biology Culture Ideology video () and @colttaine's Marriage; An Addendum video ().

@BrassVon @Oneiorosgrip @stevieanntas @Caecavelry2 @StefanoZambell5 @Lilies09 @colttaine In the Biology Culture Ideology video (), @colttaine articulates the idea that the spike in crime, the spike in divorce, the spike in suicide, the rise in single motherhood, and the drop in birthrate correlate with introducing the birth control pill.

@BrassVon @Oneiorosgrip @stevieanntas @Caecavelry2 @StefanoZambell5 @Lilies09 @colttaine In the Marriage; An Addendum video (), @colttaine speculates that the American Supreme Court was trying to solve the problem of skyrocketing single motherhood with Roe v. Wade, but @colttaine shows it actually seems to have caused the marriage rate to tank.

@BrassVon @Oneiorosgrip @stevieanntas @Caecavelry2 @StefanoZambell5 @Lilies09 @colttaine In the Marriage; An Addendum video (), @colttaine agrees that the Donohue-Levitt hypothesis (outlined hereinabove) is probably correct (using his own analysis of available data), but @colttaine considers the Donohue-Levitt hypothesis incomplete.

@BrassVon @Oneiorosgrip @stevieanntas @Caecavelry2 @StefanoZambell5 @Lilies09 @colttaine In the Marriage; An Addendum video (), @colttaine's objection to the Donohue-Levitt hypothesis is that the hypothesis ignores the increase in the crime rate caused by the introduction of the birth control pill, which abortion appears to partially correct.

@BrassVon @Oneiorosgrip @stevieanntas @Caecavelry2 @StefanoZambell5 @Lilies09 @colttaine I agree with @colttaine (in the Marriage; An Addendum video: ) that despite these issues, the birth control pill makes our lives better and both the birth control pill and abortions give humans greater control over our own lives, which is what we want.

@BrassVon @Oneiorosgrip @stevieanntas @Caecavelry2 @StefanoZambell5 @Lilies09 @colttaine Like @colttaine (in the Marriage; An Addendum video: ), I look forward to the male sexual revolution involving better male birth control (including possibly a male birth control pill) and legal paternal surrender.

@BrassVon @Oneiorosgrip @stevieanntas @Caecavelry2 @StefanoZambell5 @Lilies09 @colttaine There are some further objections to this point of view that I would be remiss in failing to mention and address.

@BrassVon @Oneiorosgrip @stevieanntas @Caecavelry2 @StefanoZambell5 @Lilies09 @colttaine The marriage rate tanks right after Roe v. Wade, but the single mother rate continues unabated.

@colttaine argues that men were empowered to not marry as many women because the baby was aborted.

(The unlabeled light blue line at about a 45° angle is the single mother rate.)

@BrassVon @Oneiorosgrip @stevieanntas @Caecavelry2 @StefanoZambell5 @Lilies09 @colttaine Here is one response to that data that makes sense of it.

https://twitter.com/Oneiorosgrip/status/1128113898513731584?s=20

@BrassVon @Oneiorosgrip @stevieanntas @Caecavelry2 @StefanoZambell5 @Lilies09 @colttaine About 99% of abortions are regarding consensual sex ().

Well over 70% of abortions aren’t due to health of the fetus or mother, rape, or incest ().

There were between 916,460 and 629,898 abortions in 2019 (). guttmacher.org/sites/default/…
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pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2022…

@BrassVon @Oneiorosgrip @stevieanntas @Caecavelry2 @StefanoZambell5 @Lilies09 @colttaine About 1-in-3 men aged 18-to-24 years reported no sexual activity in the past year (), which is #NotAllMen, but a fairly significant number. These men are totally not impacted by abortion bans (except for how abortion legalization impacts crime statistics).ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/P…

@BrassVon @Oneiorosgrip @stevieanntas @Caecavelry2 @StefanoZambell5 @Lilies09 @colttaine If you want to reduce crime and reduce the number of abortions, stop paying mother's to have children that they can't afford on their own — that is: no longer award child support and no welfare to single mothers. If the Donohue-Levitt hypothesis is correct, this will lower crime.

@BrassVon @Oneiorosgrip @stevieanntas @Caecavelry2 @StefanoZambell5 @Lilies09 @colttaine Remember, that kids who never had a father living with them have the highest incarceration rates () and child support exists because women were viewed to be incompetent in handling finances and incapable of working enough to care for children by themselves.mnpsych.org/index.php%3Fop…

@BrassVon @Oneiorosgrip @stevieanntas @Caecavelry2 @StefanoZambell5 @Lilies09 @colttaine @threadreaderapp, please unroll

@BrassVon @Oneiorosgrip @stevieanntas @Caecavelry2 @StefanoZambell5 @Lilies09 Note: wages are monetary unit per hour unless the worker in question is an owner or (exempt or similar) salaried employee whose hours worked are irrelevant to the take home pay.

@BrassVon @Oneiorosgrip @stevieanntas @Caecavelry2 @StefanoZambell5 @Lilies09 “The gender pay gap – the difference between the earnings of men and women – has barely closed in the United States in the past two decades. In 2022, American women typically earned 82 cents for every dollar earned by men” (.).pewresearch.org/social-trends/…

@BrassVon @Oneiorosgrip @stevieanntas @Caecavelry2 @StefanoZambell5 @Lilies09 “In fact, the pay gap between college-educated women and men is not any narrower than the one between women and men who do not have a college degree. This points to the dominant role of other factors that still set women back or give men an advantage” ().pewresearch.org/social-trends/…

@BrassVon @Oneiorosgrip @stevieanntas @Caecavelry2 @StefanoZambell5 @Lilies09 “On the other hand, fathers are more likely to be in the labor force—and to work more hours each week—than men without children at home. This is linked to an increase in the pay of fathers—…referred to as the ‘fatherhood wage premium’—and tends to widen the gender pay gap”(Id.).

@BrassVon @Oneiorosgrip @stevieanntas @Caecavelry2 @StefanoZambell5 @Lilies09 “Younger women—those ages 25 to 34 and early in their work lives—have edged closer to wage parity with men in recent years. Starting in 2007, their earnings have consistently stood at about 90[¢] to the dollar or more compared with men of the same age” ().pewresearch.org/social-trends/…

@BrassVon @Oneiorosgrip @stevieanntas @Caecavelry2 @StefanoZambell5 @Lilies09 “[F]or example, women who were ages 25 to 34 in 2010. In that year, they earned 92% as much as men their age, compared with 83% for women overall. But by 2022, this group of women, now ages 37 to 46, earned only 84% as much as men of the same age” ().pewresearch.org/social-trends/…

@BrassVon @Oneiorosgrip @stevieanntas @Caecavelry2 @StefanoZambell5 @Lilies09 “Although gains in education have raised the average earnings of women and have narrowed the gender pay gap overall, college-educated women are no closer to wage parity with their male counterparts than other women” ().pewresearch.org/social-trends/…

@BrassVon @Oneiorosgrip @stevieanntas @Caecavelry2 @StefanoZambell5 @Lilies09 “In 2022, women with at least a bachelor’s degree earned 79% as much as men who were college graduates, and women who were high school graduates earned 81% as much as men with the same level of education” ().pewresearch.org/social-trends/…

@BrassVon @Oneiorosgrip @stevieanntas @Caecavelry2 @StefanoZambell5 @Lilies09 Why does fatherhood generate such a gap between fathers and everyone else’s pay? …no reason…. 🤣

https://twitter.com/mss3rosaferreum/status/1695304014072783234

@BrassVon @Oneiorosgrip @stevieanntas @Caecavelry2 @StefanoZambell5 @Lilies09 @threadreaderapp, please unroll.