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Tomorrow, a federal judge in Atlanta is set to hold a hearing on whether Mark Meadows can move his state criminal charges in Fulton County to federal court.

I will once again arrive at a courthouse at an ungodly hour to cover the hearing for @lawfare.

A 🧵on what to expect:
Shortly after he was indicted alongside 18 others on racketeering and other charges in Fulton County, Meadows sought to move his case to federal court.

Four other defendants in Fulton County—Jeffrey Clark, Shawn Still, David Shafer, and Cathy Latham—have sought to do the same.
The statute that authorizes this type of removal request, 28 USC 1442, requires these defendants to show 3 things in order to move their cases to federal court, as @lee_kovarsky recently explained in @lawfare:

lawfaremedia.org/article/remova…
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So, basically, these defendants need to show that their alleged conduct relates to acts taken under color of federal office & that they can raise a federal defense.

Other defendants have hearings set for later dates, but tomorrow’s hearing only deals with Meadows.
The hearing is an “evidentiary” hearing, meaning that witnesses can be called to testify.

And it’s shaping up to be a mini-trial.

Fani Willis has subpoenaed four witnesses to appear in court tomorrow morning: Alex Kaufman, Kurt Hilbert, Frances Watson, and Brad Raffensperger.
Raffensperger is GA’s Secretary of State, who Trump infamously called on Jan. 2, 2021 to urge Raffensperger to “find” votes to overturn the election.

Meadows allegedly participated in the call.

Two other witnesses subpoenaed by Willis—Kaufman and Hilbert—were on the call.
The fourth witness subpoenaed by Willis, Frances Watson, was the chief investigator for the Secretary of State’s office following the 2020 election.

Here’s our @lawfare summary of what the indictment alleged wrt Meadows’s interactions with Watson:

. lawfaremedia.org/article/the-fu…
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It’s unclear if all of these witnesses will end up testifying tomorrow, but it’s apparent that the Raffensperger call and team Trump’s communications with Watson will take center stage at the hearing.

It will be our most detailed look yet at Willis’s case against Meadows.
It’s also unclear what evidence or testimony, if any, Meadows plans to put forward as he attempts to show that his conduct was related to his official duties as chief of staff.

While it’s highly unlikely that Meadows will testify..it’s not outside the realm of possibility.
The outcome of this hearing could be consequential.

The jury pool in federal court is wider: it’s drawn not only from Fulton County, but from 9 other counties in the Atlanta area.

And public/media access to the trial would likely be more limited in federal court.
And federal court rules around media coverage will apply during the hearing tomorrow.

All of which means no live coverage of the hearing.

But I’ll be there for @lawfare.

And, in classic @lawfare fashion, we’ll have a neurotically detailed dispatch out sometime tomorrow.

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Aug 29
Ok folks, I’m in the middle of writing an excruciatingly detailed rundown for y’all, which will be out on @lawfare tomorrow.

But here’s a few high-level thoughts on the Meadows hearing: 1/
I audibly gasped when defense counsel said “Your honor, we call Mark Meadows to the stand.”

It was always possible that Meadows could testify. But seeing a defendant take the stand in a case like this is rare…and this defendant happened to be the former WH Chief of Staff. 2/
On the stand, Meadows painted a sweeping portrait of the scope of his duties as chief of staff.

When pressed to explain how his conduct related to a federal objective or policy, he gave a variety of explanations… 3/
Read 10 tweets
Aug 28
A hearing in federal court took a stunning turn this morning as the defense called its first witness to the stand:

The former White House Chief of Staff, Mark Randall Meadows.

I'm on lunch break at the federal courthouse. Meadows will be back on the stand at 2 p.m.
The scope of questioning thus far has focused on Meadows's duties as Chief of Staff--and whether he subjectively believed that the conduct alleged in the indictment was within the scope of those duties.

At break, Meadows was being cross examined by Fulton County prosecutors.
Prosecutors indicated that they intend to cross examine Meadows for 30-45 more minutes when we return from lunch.

None of the witnesses called by the prosecution--Brad Raffensperger, Alex Kaufman, Kurt Hilbert, and Frances Watson--have testified yet.
Read 4 tweets
Aug 19
Mark Meadows’s legal team is moving at lightning pace in an effort to get his Fulton County charges dismissed.

Late yesterday, his attorneys filed a motion to dismiss the charges based on Supremacy Clause immunity as well as the 1st and 14th amendments:

documentcloud.org/documents/2391…
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The brief was filed with the federal judge, Steve Jones, who is currently mulling whether to allow Meadows to move the case to federal court.

But Meadows wants the court to consider the removal question alongside the question of whether his charges should be dismissed. Image
Meadows says he is shielded by Supremacy Clause immunity, which protects federal officials from being prosecuted in state court for conduct related to federal duties.

He says his conduct complied w/ federal law & emphasizes that he was not charged in recent federal indictment: Image
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Aug 18
PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT 📣

Moving a state criminal prosecution to federal court under 28 USC 1442 does not change the nature of the charges.

So if Trump or other defendants in Fulton County move the case to federal court, they still won’t be eligible for federal pardons!👇
The statute was initially enacted bc Congress was worried about federal officials being sued or prosecuted in state court for actions related to federal duties.

Allowing removal of such suits to federal court would better protect federal officials against local prejudices.👇
After a case is removed under 1442, the trial is held at the federal courthouse.

The federal official gets a federal judge and a federal jury pool.

But the substance of the charges remains the same: They are *state* charges brought by prosecutors for the State of Georgia. 👇
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Aug 14
Hello from the Fulton County courthouse, where Fani Willis is presenting evidence to a grand jury as she seeks indictments related to her long-running 2020 election interference probe.

Things are moving quickly here. We could see charges filed by the end of today. Image
George Chidi, independent journalist who stumbled upon fake electors meeting on Dec. 14, 2020, just arrived to testify before the grand jury.

(No photo because of court rules that prohibit photographs in certain areas of the building.)
Members of the media are standing by at the *many* entrances to the Lewis Slaton courthouse as we await more witnesses.

Court closes at 5…but I’m told that Judge McBurney has indicated that he will keep his courtroom open until the DA’s office tells him to close up.
Read 11 tweets
Aug 14
The Fulton County DA is set to bring charges related to her 2020 election probe.

I’ve chronicled legal events related to the probe in neurotic detail for more than a year @lawfare.

I’ll be at the courthouse in the coming days as the case enters a new phase: the indictment🧵👇
The action will begin on Monday, when the district attorney is expected to begin presenting evidence to the grand jury.

As I have explained, presentation of evidence will probably take about 2 days.

By Tuesday evening, we’ll likely see the indictment.
https://t.co/3TRilPRAwr
You might be surprised by how quickly the jurors could return an indictment in a complex case like this one.

But recall that Willis used a special purpose grand jury to collect evidence.

The SPGJ received evidence & heard testimony from 75+ witnesses.

lawfaremedia.org/article/everyt…
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