The sliver of truth to "horseshoe theory" is that some people are motivated primarily by power fantasies of violent revenge, a kind of ecstatic abdication of ethical consideration, and they will latch onto whatever part of the political spectrum they think will scratch this itch.
This is why you get the most outraged reactions to "yes, severely violent resistance to an open-air prison is totally justified, but rape is not" from tankies -- because in their minds THE WHOLE POINT is an excuse to turn off the moral consideration part of their brain.
In these people's worldview the argument over ideological nonviolence isn't about straightforward consequentialist failures of liberal pacifism, but about their own need for release from the supposed "bonds" of conscience and thought itself.
Their interest in morality extends exactly as far as it can be used to justify turning off all further moral thought. So the formulation is always "X did immoral thing, which justifies our abandonment of all moral consideration whatsoever."
And their worldview collapses to a virtue ethics based in absolutist dichotomies "there are sheep and wolves, and it is virtuous to be a wolf." What's wrong with the liberals is thus not the bad consequences of their inept strategies, but the very notion of still thinking.
In anarchist circles this looks like a collapse from insurrection as "everyone a general capable of evaluating strategic opportunities and exploits for themselves" into a relatively marxist-brained notion of unthinking mass uprising based in historic forces (animal emotion).
Thus you get even some "anarchists" seething about people being like "yeah but islamic fascists raping teenage girls and parading their bodies around isn't liberation" because in their minds this can only be read as moralistic friction to revolt (as mass thoughtless emotion).
This is a kind of picture in which the entirety of politics is devolved into justifications for violence and impediments to violence: Expressing revulsion at the horrific atrocity that is Israel's existence is good but only insofar as you do not express revulsion at Hamas' rapes.
It's pure team sports campism. A politic of collapsing everything to undifferentiated mass in order to revel in unthinking violence as an affective ends in an of itself.
It's the exact opposite of antifascism's Three Way Fight and anarchism's lens of individual agency.
Anyway, Palestine will be free from the river to the sea, Israel has no right to exist, Hamas is fascist scum, fuck up every PSL march, tear down every border, run rape apologist manarchists out of the movement, and KYLR.
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A while ago Peter out of the blue quote tweeted and spewed a long rambling hostile and insulting rant against a solid thread from Lee where she pointed out the fact that therapy rarely stops abusers because it's not effective at changing core values and ideology.
Peter implied that Lee said therapy can NEVER work, which she never did.
Other people have implied that Peter is always against deplatforming and violent action re abusers, which he denies.
Let's see if we can narrow down some object-level disagreement.
One of the most consistent flags that marks reactionary or fascist critiques of "industrial society" or civ or whatever is a focus on the number of people. Kaczynski kinda skimmed other critiques and focused in on "too many people around" and pretty much every fash does too.
My mother's New Age perspective is more or less that whatever you believe is, by definition, true for you.
...So she will howl at me and my sisters when we bring up wildly abusive things she's done, "Why are you choosing to believe that?!! What does it benefit you!?"
The idea of there being a single fixed objective material reality, rather it being a shared social "consensus" dream, is literally her definition of evil. In the specific cult in which we were raised (400k members worldwide!) the language they use for this is "Mortal Mind."
When I was a teenager my right lung ripped apart. And my mother treated this as an imposition, because in her anti-realist framework I was CHOOSING to believe I was injured. So she dragged her feet and prioritized snacks for my sisters for hours while I lay on the ground gasping.
An individual's beliefs CONSTANTLY constrain their agency, because agency involves being accurately informed.
If someone is trying to make a decision with false information (like about the STI status of the person they're with), their choice has no purchase on the world.
Freedom is about your ability to act within and influence the world.
It makes no difference if this is constrained by being imprisoned within physical bars, or gaslighted with a false map of reality. Both are means of control and constraint of freedom.
Much of the disagreements folks are having are over whether to conceptualize freedom in a positive sense (the expanse of things you can do) or negative sense (there being no external causal influences on some patch of matter) I firmly defend the former: c4ss.org/content/52295
The source of all of nu-atheism's problems was that it wasn't actually militant.
Their focus on tolerance, diversity of perspectives and civil debate inclined them to a tepid statist liberalism that saw platforming reactionaries as a virtue. And so they were consumed by such.
The simple fact is that the lowest-common-denominator conservative populism that flooded nuatheism's ranks and consumed the brains of its lead grifters, causing everyone with a conscience to flee, wouldn't have been possible if they were an underground movement planting bombs.
It's hilarious to me that people think "the problem with nuatheism is they were aggressive" -- they weren't aggressive at all! They focused on youtube reach like populist politicians, rather than direct action. They were classic libs, entranced with respectability.
A reminder: if it's not survivor-led, it's not "accountability" it's just some friends getting together to find how to spin things.
"How can X be accountable to The Community for abusing Y?" is a nonsense question. There's no such thing as The Community. It's a phantom, a fabrication, a distraction, a deflection. If your proposal is anything other than what Y prescribes, you are defending an abuser.
People want "he went through accountability" as some kind of badge they can slap on shit as if it was some kind of "sentence served" thing approved by some self-appointed parole board. That's actually carceral thinking.
Accountability means accountable *to the survivor.*