I’m reposting my remarks on @GeorgeMonbiot’s energy data as an updated 🧵 after another read of his source. IMO this is important – I think George’s figure is wrong & this has implications for the feasibility of the ‘farm-free’ future he foretells in #Regenesis 1/16
George finally gave his source for his 16.7 kWh/kg bacterial protein claim as this paper (‘the Sillman study’): 2/16sciencedirect.com/science/articl…
So his figure isn’t in fact a real world one from Solar Foods as he previously claimed, but from an article (a “quantitative literature review”) involving estimates made using secondary data 3/16
I’ve already discussed this study & some of its limitations here: . More recent studies with more comprehensive energy inventories suggest much higher figures 4/16chrissmaje.com/wp-content/upl…
George’s 16.7 figure is based on 9.86kWh/kg biomass from the Sillman study, but this isn’t the full energy cost that’s specified in the study (Fig. 3) 5/16
Proper consideration needs to be given to other inputs & energy costs which I don't think are covered in George’s figure… 6/16
…like CO2 capture, bioreactor stirring heating & cooling, ammonia, post-processing, filtration to make it safe for human consumption etc. These are better specified in the more recent Leger et al study I used 7/16
The Leger et al study also used real-world efficiency data from actual PV farms, not a theoretical efficiency estimate as in the Sillman study 8/16
The Sillman study shows (Fig 3) that George’s energy figure of 9.86 kWh/kg would only provide, at best, a slurry of bacterial biomass at 2.5% concentration (presumably unsafe for humans to eat) 9/16
But this result could only occur if the CO2 input is provided with no energy cost, which I don’t think is the real world case for Solar Foods 10/16
So I think my 65kWh/kg protein calculated from the Leger study is a better estimate. Note that neither study includes full energy costs of building, maintaining & replacing infrastructure 11/16
Notwithstanding its low estimate, the Sillman study nevertheless remarks “The proposed protein production method is highly energy-intensive compared with conventional production practices in agriculture”, which is a key point I’ve been trying to emphasize 12/16
There are other techniques for producing microbial food. But they can’t just be invoked airily – their lifecycle energetics need specifying if we’re going to discuss their role. Using generated electricity instead of sunlight will always be a challenge energetically 13/16
TLDR: the Solar Foods pancake that George ate probably wasn’t “the beginning of the end of most agriculture” 14/16
George has stressed in his recent writing the importance of numbers. I agree the ones discussed here are important. So @GeorgeMonbiot will you retract your 16.7kWh/kg claim, or show what I’ve got wrong here? 15/16
More generally in this area, it's important not to confuse costs and efficiency.
See also comments by @alanwilliamz.
#NOtoFarmFree 16/16
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At last @GeorgeMonbiot has replied to Qs about his energy figures for bacterial protein production – but he’s merely reiterated what he said in his book. He claims an energy cost of 16.7 kWh/kg – huge relative to existing agricultural alternatives & probably non-viable... 1/4
as mass food tech. But I think his figure is incorrect. I calculated it at 65.3 kWh/kg – nearly 4x higher (& not including important lifecycle costs). My calculations are drawn from a peer-reviewed study with publicly available data, whereas George’s seem to be from... 2/4
unpublished company data. I corroborated my figure with one of the study authors. If it’s right, I think this turns bacterial protein from an improbable to a fanciful mass food source. George says I start from different premises (I don’t) & use ‘a contentious analysis of... 3/4
Interesting review of my book #NOtoFarmFree from @Jeremy_Williams. A few remarks:
Maybe it’s premature to dismiss a technology that "doesn’t exist yet beyond a single experimental company" but time isn't on our side. What’s clear is that this technology will *always* use... 1/6
...more supplied primary energy than cultivated plants
Given that per acre yields from agroecological production aren't less than from industrial production, there’s no need to ‘prove’ the former can feed the world... 2/6
...but it’s true it might not mesh with the kind of high-energy supply chains required by cities like Tokyo. Given impending energy constraints, the likelihood is therefore future ruralization. I think the onus is on the ecomodernists to explain how this can be avoided... 3/6
My writing on ag localism to meet present crises is influenced by ecosocialism but more by distributism, civic republicanism & ag populism. I’ve had good engagement from ppl on the left – we share much – but also some nonsense. Long 🧵to try to lay out overlaps & divergences 1/27
Basic structure of many small farm societies of the past & (I suspect) the future: households usually comprising a small kin-related group as unit of production & consumption with exclusive access to a small area of land, set within wider commons & community relationships 2/27
The ‘exclusive access’ (=private property) bit troubles some on the left. The main problem with private property is its tendency to accumulate in few hands & thence to generate monopoly rent that excludes most people from livelihood autonomy 3/27
1. With cheap & abundant (fossil) energy for fertilizer, traction etc, plants can produce more protein & energy per acre or per energy input than livestock...
2. But without cheap energy you usually need to build fertility with grass/legume leys & rotate between ley & cropland. In this situation, livestock are all but essential - and it’s not meaningful to ask whether plants or livestock produce the most nutrition per unit input...
3. ...they’re both part of a larger system where they have different jobs to do. And where the key role of livestock is as farm labourers/nutrient cyclers, not as food producers – although the specialist food & fibre they do produce is important
1/10 The forces driving potential 'collapse' aren’t only climate related, but are independently driven by political economy, energy, water, soils, ecosystems etc.
2/10 There's already plenty of 'collapse' in modern society: nutrition, employment, health, social welfare, social linkage, violence. Social structures are failing many, many people & climate change is making it worse. So this isn’t just an abstract debate about the future