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I built a spreadsheet to calculate the operating point of a combination of filters and fans in a #corsirosenthalbox. The Link is a few tweets down in the thread. It might have inappropriate extrapolations or other errors, but I hope it will help designers configure boxes. 1/🧵 A screenshot of the data entry spreadsheet. You enter number of filters of each type and size in the light blue fields, and number of fans of each type in the light green fields. The spreadsheet shows the operating point where the curves intersect.
Tech types, please look at 2nd sheet (1900 Fltr Anlyss) to see what I did & what needs fixing. @CorsIAQ @JimRosenthal4 @robwiss @joeyfox85 @DavidElfstrom @cleanairkits @CRBoxKits @CleanAirStars @RFantinatto @open_erv @haussamen @sameo416 @syntagmatic @PlasticFull @leanhealth 2/ A screenshot of the second sheet of the workbook (1900 Fltr Anlyss) where I describe my method of curve fitting and extrapolating from one size filter to another.
I'm really looking for comments and suggestions. If I made mistakes, I want to know about them. 3/
Here’s the link to the spreadsheet:
4/docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d…
And here’s a link to the doc:
5/docs.google.com/document/d/121…
I’ve only included filters for which I have pressure vs. CFM data at several points. I fit that data in a physics-friendly way and interpolate to low pressures where DIY CR boxes live. I’d like to include more filters, so please send me data if you have it. 6/
For filters, I need actual dimensions, including margin sizes and number of pleats to calculate a Veff as explained on the 1900 Fltr Anlyss sheet. A picture would help.7/
Likewise, I’ve only included fans for which I have pressure vs CFM data. I’d like to include more fans, so please send me data if you have it. Even an image of a fan curve would help. 8/
The spreadsheet assumes the fans are well enough spaced that they don’t interact and the box has no restrictions in or out (grills), so the pressure drop across all the filters is the same and equal to the pressure drop across all the fans (but opposite sign, of course). 9/
I’ve included CADR calculations, but they’re iffy since, as @JimRosenthal4 explained here the data were prolly taken at 295 FPS, and may not apply at these slow velocities. 10/texairfilters.com/what-is-a-merv…
But even with caveats and restrictions, it does allow mixing of filter sizes and types, as well as fan types. It should even work for a dropped ceiling approach with multiple filters and fans on 2’x4’ tiles sharing a single plenum, as suggested here: . F/
Fixed the link, I hope: Filters and Fans_12.xlsx
And fixed the link to the doc, I hope: Fans and Filters Spreadsheet Documentation_01.docx
@JimRosenthal4 Oops. That should read "taken at 495 FPS". I thought I fixed that typo. Thanks @DavidElfstrom.
@JimRosenthal4 Should read "taken at 495 FPS".
@CorsIAQ @JimRosenthal4 @robwiss @joeyfox85 @DavidElfstrom @cleanairkits @CRBoxKits @CleanAirStars @RFantinatto @open_erv @haussamen @sameo416 @syntagmatic @PlasticFull @leanhealth I posted links to the spreadsheet and documentation, but I didn't now how to use Google Drive. I hope these links will work now:
Filters and Fans_12.xlsx
Fans and Filters Spreadsheet Documentation_01.docx
Please let me know if it's fixed or not.
I dunno why, but when viewing the spreadsheet in Google Drive, the charts don't display fully. But when I download them, they look OK.
I hop I've fixed Google Drive now so the links work. I dunno why, but when viewing the spreadsheet in Google Drive, the charts don't display fully. But when I download them, they look OK.

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For an upcoming family event, I wanted a powerful, quiet #CorsiRosenthalBox that could be collapsed to carry in the car. I started with a @robwiss format of 9 Arctic P14 PC fans with 4 20x20x1 Filtrete MERV13 filters. @CorsIAQ @JimRosenthal4 @PlasticFull @haussamen /1. Collapsed CR Box.
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