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So, it's my day off and I have a cold. As sad as it is, I have found myself live-tweeting the Covid Inquiry.

Please do mute this thread if you are not interested.

It is Professor of Mathematical Biology, Prof MacLean, and the dumpster fire that is Kemi Badenoch today.
Prof Maclean says that Prof Reilly who is normally very cautious had said they would need to go into lockdown and stay there for quite some time on the 10th of March. She was very concerned that Ministers just didn't get the calamity that was to follow.
I find this incredible. By now we are at 13th of March and this is the first time we are modelling worst-case scenario versus true NHS capacity

The point made by Prof Maclean here is that if NHS capacity is very low then the effort to suppress will need to be monumental Image
This was actually (AS I HAVE BEEN SCREAMING ABOUT FOR AGES) the critical factor in the pandemic (after we had missed the window to contain it)...

With a shockingly poor NHS capacity lockdown was inevitable and would have to be long and severe healthcare rationing unavoidable
16th March - voluntary restrictions come in. Data came in showing on the 18th of March that 40% reduction in contacts had occurred (actually quite impressive). It was clearly not enough.
And this is crucial to the Judge here. She questions whether voluntary would have been enough. It is a theme throughout the inquiry...did we need mandated orders given how well the people of the UK responded to volunatary measures?...

Prof Maclean knocks this one out the park
She is clear that had voluntary measures been enough, hospitalisations would have peaked ten days later. It did not. And in fact peaked 10 days after lockdown was imposed.

I think this is right...by this point (March), in the absence of C&T up to now, lockdown was inevitable.
Prof is clear that lockdown absolutely should have happened on 16th March. Again, the reason for the delay of lockdown to the 23rd of March isn't entirely clear. Expect some grilling of Johnson on this.
Prof is also clear that had lockdown not happened, then the first peak would have been considerably worse. Again, this is part of the misinformation that has made it's way to the Inquiry that "the curve was falling anyway". Without lockdown (by this stage) it would be worse.
Prof brings up an important issue...scientists probably did not expect vaccines to come so soon and be so effective. As such, there may have been some move to getting through the pandemic (Sweden style).
Astonishingly, modellers do not seem to have been told what capacity the NHS could handle going forward...

Honestly, I am raging about this. How on earth can a pandemic be running and the NHS be smaller??
Big question from counsel: if there was a proper strategy could we have managed the pandemic better?

Honestly, this beggars belief. The govt did not have clear boundaries or a strategy for managing the pandemic post-lockdown.
The position of the modellers was clearly that if a vaccine would be available within 5 years then they should go for low incidence i.e. controls. As I thought, the govt were under the impression that 1 year of high incidence would produce herd ("A useful level of") immunity
Buckle up for this...

Prof Maclean clearly articulates the choice (the same one people like @Dr_D_Robertson were highlighting)...

How many deaths are acceptable to the govt. Image
@Dr_D_Robertson In April Prof Maclean clearly put forward the possibility of going for Covid ELIMINATION.

Would elimination have been possible ever?

Certainly not after we had seeded the infection after the February school break!

WOW!!!! @trishgreenhalgh @chrischirp @dgurdasani1
@Dr_D_Robertson @trishgreenhalgh @chrischirp @dgurdasani1 The govt had a "half-way" meeting in April, as if this was them half way through the pandemic. Prof Maclean said it was a t least 18 months to go...and you "could hear a pin drop". Astonishing they did not know this.
@Dr_D_Robertson @trishgreenhalgh @chrischirp @dgurdasani1 June, the R number reached 0.7 - the pandemic was shrinking.

"The second wave was completely foreseeable."

September "the worst moment of the pandemic"...

Frustrating to advise the govt and saying to do something and NOTHING HAPPENED!
@Dr_D_Robertson @trishgreenhalgh @chrischirp @dgurdasani1 Very clear evidence being given just now that scientists were strongly advising to act and the govt just weren't listening!

They then advised a circuit-breaking. Bear in mind had they listened lockdowns would have been much shorter! Image
@Dr_D_Robertson @trishgreenhalgh @chrischirp @dgurdasani1 Oh my....

Prof Mclean attends a meeting "Should the govt act now?" she says they need to "get a grip" on the pandemic.

KC: did it work?

Prof: clearly not as nothing happened

DAMNING!
@Dr_D_Robertson @trishgreenhalgh @chrischirp @dgurdasani1 Some people at the meeting thought "mores studies were needed" and this was the same as doing nothing "in my view".

But check this...the Chief Science officer of Sweden is at the meeting and says this (they should act) Image
@Dr_D_Robertson @trishgreenhalgh @chrischirp @dgurdasani1 At that meeting, Prof Gupta and Henagan, put forward a different view at that meeting...in regards to herd immunity. Protect vulnerable groups and let it rip.

The level of engagement the Judge is giving to the GBD/herd immunity is quite astonishing. Does someone have her ear?
@Dr_D_Robertson @trishgreenhalgh @chrischirp @dgurdasani1 Prof Maclean completely blows this argument out of the water...it would not have been possible to segregate certain populations...households are not made up with the compositions to allow that.
@Dr_D_Robertson @trishgreenhalgh @chrischirp @dgurdasani1 Prof is doing well not to be quite annoyed about this line of questioning...it is clearly and evidently a ridiculously wrong idea. The large autumn wave and catastrophic consequences prove it unequivocally!
@Dr_D_Robertson @trishgreenhalgh @chrischirp @dgurdasani1 It's hard to disagree with a point made by the judge that Scientists need to be better at making their point. Scientists equivocate, as is their training. A point comes when we need to say we are certain enough to be unequivocal. A very difficult thing to achieve.
@Dr_D_Robertson @trishgreenhalgh @chrischirp @dgurdasani1 This is a spectacular graph by Prof John Edmunds highlighting just how late our March lockdown was.

Prof Maclean is very clear that the govt didn't learn from the mistakes in March. Expect ministers to get roasted on this. Image
@Dr_D_Robertson @trishgreenhalgh @chrischirp @dgurdasani1 KC: Would a circuit breaker meant less deaths?

Prof: YES!

Recommendations made 21st Sept,

"couldn't understand why the govt weren't doing anything"

Tiers eventually put in a month later. Astonishingly SAGE or SPIMO were asked to advise on the tier system!!!! WTF!!!!
@Dr_D_Robertson @trishgreenhalgh @chrischirp @dgurdasani1 Sorry guys, that's me done. Can't sit through two hours of Badenoch.

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Nov 24
I had the chance to catch up with Van-Tam's testimony to the Covid Inquiry (still nursing the man-flu).

- Threats
- NHS capacity
- Airborne transmission & masks
- Mass gatherings

1/n
He raises the threats against him and other advisers' families. Really as a nation, we should reflect on this. In particular, how certain aspects of the media a up so much animo
Van Tam agrees that interventions should have occurred "7 to 14 days earlier"

Judge asks, "Do you think lockdowns could have been avoided had we acted sooner?"

VT: says again, the common theme is that the NHS just didn't have the capacity to allow no lockdowns.
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Nov 23
Part 2 of Prof Whitty's testimony to @covidinquiryuk

This concludes Whitty's evidence for Module 2 of the Inquiry (he will be back).

My initial impression of Whitty and the decision-making at the heart of government during 2020...
1/n
2/ The questions to be answered by Whitty in regards to the UK’s delayed response to the pandemic is whether...

a) was his position one of “watch and wait” and he therefore added to the harmful delays?

or

b) did he fail to convey the urgency of the matter to Ministers?
3/ As for point a)... It was apparent that he was at times too slow to act, as Whitty acknowledged himself:

“Now, as we will I'm sure come on to, my view is, with the benefit of hindsight, we went a bit too late on the first wave, and I've been clear about that for some time.”
Read 25 tweets
Nov 21
Whitty's testimony didn't come with the headline-grabbing revelations of other testimonies but it was one of the most illuminating of the Inquiry so far.

Particularly in terms of timeline and where the govt properly failed.

Here's my impression of it and some key moments...
1/n
2/ The first thing to note is just how qualified Whitty is -Epidemiologist, Consultant Physician, Infectious Disease Consultant, and expert in Tropical Medicine. Really, you couldn't ask for a better-qualified CMO to handle a pandemic.
3/ The next, is just how well he handled himself on the stand. As mild-mannered and (a fault I have long attributed to him) passive as he seems, he is sharp and clearly boardroom savvy too. He thought on his feet and pushed back on the KC quite firmly at times.
Read 25 tweets
Nov 20
The Covid Inquiry is important both to learn from our mistakes but also to throw a light on the damaging effects of corruption and maligned leadership

But so far the Inquiry have avoided key questions…

1/18
1. Why and under whose authority was NHS bed capacity reduced at the start of the pandemic?

It remains one of the most remarkable anomalies of the U.K. response…Why was NHS bed capacity reduced by 8%?
Infection control and the need for distancing meant less beds per ward but all other comparable nations buffered this with an expansion of bed capacity. Indeed, many expanded well beyond their normal capacity.
Read 17 tweets
Nov 6
Rachel highlights a critical and neglected aspect of the pandemic calamity - healthcare rationing

It 100% happened

It’s the reason we struggled to see a GP, were kept at home when sick, and why waiting lists grew so much..

I led a Lancet paper on it, here’s what we found…
1/n
The paper was cross-speciality. It involved A&E, GPs, Medics, Respiratory, ICU, Public Health, policy makers,…

We reviewed the U.K. response and the points at which healthcare was markedly rationed

thelancet.com/journals/lanep…
Now, healthcare is always rationed. We don’t all have personal physicians and 24 hour nurses. We don’t have instant access to scans or procedures. Resources are always divided and prioritised

The question is, how much more restricted access was during early pandemic than before?
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Oct 30
What we see from the Inquiry is intense focus on the period between Jan 30th and March 23rd. This was the nearly two month period that would affect all of our lives so profoundly for years to come…

1/7
The line the Inquiry is taking is that we knew that Covid was transmissible and there was even asymptomatic spread and it was going to become a serious global pandemic by end of January…

Had we acted then, 10s of thousands of lives would have been saved and lockdowns avoided…
So why wasn’t preparation under way? And if not then, why not by mid to end February when Covid had reached Italy?

The answers are deeply uncomfortable…
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