NEW: The New York AG is detailing what should go into a comprehensive relief order and why they are entitled to it. Notably, the degree of scienter — or intent — is a factor under the legal test they say governs, as is whether the wrongful conduct was an “isolated incident.”
Another factor? Repentance, or the lack thereof, or “whether defendant continues to maintain that his past conduct was blameless.”
Wallace says it’s hard to imagine how someone could be more insistent on their blamelessness—and when someone is saying they did nothing wrong, they’re telling you they’ll do it again.
Today, Wallace says the company has no CFO or comptroller. (Hawthorn is not, in fact, the CFO.) It has virtually no internal controls, and the monitor has found ongoing financial irregularities. Kise is on his feet, accusing Wallace of “making the record up as he goes along.”
Wallace moves on to point out that despite the preliminary injunction, the Trump Org. made a $40 million transfer without notice to the court or the monitor. The AG argues the monitorship should be extended.
Now we’re talking about lifetime bars. The AG’s office cites the case of Martin Shkreli, who has been barred from the pharmaceutical industry in a case involving a claim under the same law at issue here.
Wallace says Shkreli’s behavior is echoed by that of Weisselberg, McConney, and Trump, who have demonstrated no remorse.
“There is at least a hope,” by contrast, that a five-year bar would be enough for Eric and Don Jr., who are “grown men in their 40s,” have made millions from their roles and are “fully responsible for their actions.”
Jr., in particular, as trustee, signed certifications and representation letters attesting to the truth of his dad’s financial conditions. Even if he didn’t know, that kind of recklessness “has no business being an officer or director in a New York corporation.”
(Eric’s involvement was both more extensive and done with actual knowledge, Wallace notes.)
On disgorgement, the legal burden shifts. Defendants did not show that the calculations were incorrect.
It’s a federal crime to misrepresent your assets as part of a credit application, Wallace says. We didn’t allege bank fraud, but the existence of that crime — which does not depend on reliance by the bank or any injury to that bank — shows that their “no victim, no problem” argument falls apart.
Wallace is now thanking lawyers and staff members who never got to the podium or counsel table. After calling it a “Herculean effort” by all involved, he is wrapping up. (Shout out to the court reporters!)
Engoron: “I don’t enforce morality; I enforce the law.” How would you compare what happened here to the Madoff Ponzi scheme, Engoron asked. Wallace: It’s smaller in scope, but there shouldn’t be room for those rich enough to get away with it.
Engoron: I will do my best to issue my opinion by Jan. 31 and am “reasonably confident that I will be able to do so.”
And now we wait as the lawyers leave.
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NEW: Judge Lew Kaplan denies Trump’s 3:59 pm email request to delay @ejeancarroll’s trial so he can attend funeral services for Melania’s mother on 1/17 and 1/18, but orders parties to file any letters or emails about the request by tomorrow.
UPDATE: Carroll’s team filed their response last night, explaining that Trump will invariably ask for another delay & certainly can attend Thursday’s funeral without upending the significant logistical arrangements already in place for the trial.
They further note that a delay is not warranted when Trump continues to defame Carroll on a near-daily basis and did not attend a single day of, much less testify in, his prior trial, which decided liability.
I keep thinking about Judge Engoron's last-minute question to the New York Attorney General's lawyer yesterday: "How would you compare the fraud you are alleging to the Madoff Ponzi Scheme?" 1/
Allotted just a minute to respond, he said what many of us might say: "It's smaller in that there is a smaller amount of people affected, smaller dollar number. But I still think it's significant given the dollar numbers involved & the fact that it involves critical regulated industry." 2/
And he added that Trump & the other defendants used the money they procured to build properties of which they are "very proud," but the lies they told to a bank to "get that much revenue" remain "a very significant issue." 3/
Over the past few months, we've seen how events in one Trump lawsuit can have reverberations in others of those cases. And it's happened again, this time in @ejeancarroll's second defamation trial, which opens Tuesday. 1/
Given Trump's continued defamation of their client and his pledge to attend this next trial, Carroll's team understandably paid close attention to yesterday's closing arguments in the New York Attorney General's civil fraud case. 2/
They noted, as @chrislhayes and I discussed last night, that despite initial tough talk, Judge Arthur Engoron ultimately agreed to reconsider whether to allow Trump to offer some closing words, only to be steamrolled by the man himself. 3/
Amer is devoting a lot of time to showing McConney’s intent in performing several of the valuations at issue. McConney, he argues, understood the time value of money and that future income had to be discounted to present value—but nonetheless treated unbuilt homes as if they could be sold today.
Now we’ve moved on to Weisselberg, who Amer says is the person responsible for tripling the size of Trump’s apartment. The broker testified that Weisselberg denied him the right to see the apartment or the floor plan and that Weisselberg told him “I think it’s around 30k square feet.”
This was no innocent mistake, Amer says. Weisselberg deliberately defrauded Kevin Sneddon and by extension, others involved in the preparation and review of the statements of financial condition.
NEW: Kevin Wallace is about to begin for the Attorney General’s office. He says this is deja vu because all of the arguments have been made before. And the law of the case remains that the statements of financial condition were false and misleading for years.
Each defendant acted knowingly and intentionally. In fact, other than the triplex, they did not characterize any of the valuation discrepancies as a mistake. And they tellingly never asked a single question of Donald Trump, Eric Trump, or Allen Weisselberg.
Only McConney was asked about the statements of financial condition—and he has previously acknowledged engaging in unlawful conduct with Weisselberg.
NEW: Chris Kise asks for permission to have Trump speak. Engoron, “Do you promise to just comment on the facts and the law?” Trump starts talking immediately without agreeing.
“This was a political witch hunt; we should receive damages for what they have taken our company through. They have no documents—they have nothing!” The only thing they have, Trump concedes, is the triplex, which was a mistake.
“I am not sure the dollar amount would have been that far off, if you want to know!” But Trump continues, “I am an innocent man. I have been politically persecuted. . . . This statute is vicious.”