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This is one of the best talks I've heard in a while on China's economy, by Eric Li, a famous Chinese VC and political scientist.


I summarize the main points in a short 🧵
First of all, he argues there was a fundamental misunderstanding of China by the US. The US convinced itself China would stay in the "peripheral" forever 👇 whilst China's objective was always to move up and be part of the "core". Image
This is how he describes the "first phase of China's globalization", with the "3 pillars" of its market economy being real estate, consumer internet and industrial capacity & global supply chain (on top of infrastructure building handled by the state). Image
However by 2020 these 3 pillars had "run out of steam" and created a bunch of problems in the Chinese economy. For instance some of the consumer internet firms had become monopolies or monopsonies (only one buyer), and the pillars didn't stimulate actual technological innovation. Image
This led to the Chinese economy not "improving on productivity, just growing in size", since approximately 2010. Image
As a result China needs to find new pillars. So far it had stayed at the bottom of the "smile curve", focusing on manufacturing/assembling/distribution, growing in size there, but to keep developing it needs to move upper left: more R&D & design, and capturing more value add. Image
Eric Li argues that this plan to move upper left the smile curve "is the primary driver of this looming, existential struggle between the US and China, because the United States cannot tolerate this movement".
Why? Because China capturing more value-add (China currently captures 12% and sees the upside potential at 30-40%) means they'll take it from the US & its allies' companies.

He gives the example of the iPhone: in 2009 China was capturing 3.6%, by 2018 it had increased to 25.4%. Image
So China needs to gain 20-30% in value add (moving from from 12 to 30-40%) and - this blew my mind - he reckons "8 or 9% of this [nearly half] is semiconductors"

In fact today China imports in value more chips than it does crude oil and iron ore (to make steel) combined!
This goes a long way to explain why chips are so essential to preventing China from moving upper left on the smile curve. From a US standpoint, if you prevent China from becoming a major chips player, it already prevents half their journey to capturing their value add potential!
All in all, he describes the shift to a new economic model as "a wholesale structural change" and "a shock therapy". Especially since "market forces could not be relied upon to engineer this transition" so the gvt had to initiate "a top down supply-side restructuring" themselves. Image
He says this restructuring by the gvt is "by necessity extremely painful, to redirect capital away from the old pillars to the new pillars. It leads to a lot of losers and the winners are not here yet. So we're in this vacuum which will continue for a couple of years at least."
This is an extremely good point. He said that "when Adam Smith talked about economics, it was political economy. And at some point along the way, the 'political' got dropped, it's now only economics. Why? I'm guessing because the winners already did their politics."
The argument there is of course that the West, through politics (and war, politics by other means), put themselves at an economic advantage and everyone else at a disadvantage.

So, Eric Li argues, "they're saying 'don't do politics, just do economics', stay in the peripheral".
China, who don't want to stay in the peripheral, therefore need to be doing political economy - this top down restructuring and moving upper-left the smile curve - and "the powers that be hate it, they want to stop it."
He concludes by looking at the future of globalization. He differentiate between "small yard countries" ("the British empire and its 4 grandsons", Western Europe and Japan), that is currently trying to protect itself with a "high fence", and the global South. Image
He notes that whilst the global South accounts for 40% of global GDP (to "small yard" countries' 50%), it generates 60% of the world's economic growth.

As a result he says the key question wrt globalization is: "Can China drive a new round of globalization outside the fence?"
This would result in what he calls "small yard, big world".

The end!

Watch the whole video here:
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This is a absolutely fantastic example of data manipulation. Credit to @nikstankovic_ for spotting it (you can see his reply to @AgatheDemarais's post).

Not surprising coming from The Economist but the manipulation is still quite insane once you understand it.

Let me explain 🧵
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So what you understand from The Economist's graph is exactly what @AgatheDemarais understood: "oh my god, Japan has been 'derisking' from China for years, their economic reliance on China is low, Germany is so behind!".

Right? Well, it's TOTALLY wrong.
As a matter of fact Japanese exports to China are 26% higher than German exports to China 👇. 153B in exports to China from Japan in 2021 vs 121B from Germany.

Those are the actual numbers.
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This is the exact quote from the paper:

"At midnight on October 7, the IDF ordered all of its combat units in practice to use the 'Hannibal Directive', although without clearly mentioning this explicit name. The order was to stop 'at all costs' any attempt by Hamas terrorists to return to Gaza, that is despite the fear that some of them have hostages.

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Not sure if you remember these photos of burned vehicles reported by all the media as "destroyed by Hamas" (here Reuters 👇)? Well the Yedioth Ahronoth investigation now confirms they were in fact destroyed by the IDF... Image
Sorry, Google translation mistake apparently: this part should read "One of the revelations exposed in the investigation is that at noon on October 7th, the IDF instructed all its combat units in the field to implement 'Hannibal Directive'


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This is UK Minister of State Lee Rowley responding to the fact that an IDF sniper killed a Christian mother and her daughter IN A CHURCH in Gaza. An act the Pope himself called "terrorism" and that Cardinal Vincent Nichols, the most senior Catholic cleric in England, characterized as a “cold–blooded killing”.

Minister Rowley's response? This is Israel "trying to defend itself" and the "only way to end the situation in Gaza is Hamas laying down their weapons and stop using their population as human shields".

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Which is something you could maybe imagine the most evil terrorist organizations saying - "we'll murder your wifes and daughters in your places of worship until you surrender, your deaths are on you!" - but now we have UK ministers essentially saying this stuff, which is absolutely insane!

Does this reflect something that was always there, only hidden under a veneer of pretense morality? Or is it the product of a more recent degradation of morality in the West? At the end of the day it doesn't matter, fact is I can't see how there's any recovery possible from this for a long, long time. The whole world sees this kind of talk which is pervasive among almost all Western leaders. And they just won't forget, we're looking at a future where any talk of "values", "principles", "respect of rules", etc. by the West will be met by laughter and ridicule by the rest of the world for decades to come.
This is what he is asked to react about 👇
And this is the Pope's reaction, characterizing it as "terrorism" 👇
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