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Transport Committee 1.2.24

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Discussing..
7.1 #MobilityPlan includes🚶‍♀️👩‍🦽🚲#ActiveTravel Action Plan
7.2 #FutureStreets includes🚲network
7.3 #Tram - will🚲be included if tram uses #Roseburn #NEPN? democracy.edinburgh.gov.uk/ieListDocument…
edinburgh.public-i.tv/core/portal/we…


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#Roseburn #tram

Spokes deputn @AvGeekAlex
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🚲is essential & feasible if tram uses #RoseburnPath

Q: Cllr Munro has received many emails supporting the path .. but is it bike v tram?
A: No, both can coexist democracy.edinburgh.gov.uk/documents/b241…



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@TransformScot deputn supports including🚲👩‍🦽🚶‍♀️
@DalryCemetery deputn highlights #wildlife #mentalhealth issues & seeks tram onroad

Q: Cllr @HalOsler asks if tram should be onroad
A: Spokes supports either

Q: @julebandel/@DAstonSNP supportive qns


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#LongstoneBridge🚶‍♀️👩‍🦽🚲

@Longstone_CC deputn
Developer agreed 30% contribn; TEC please find the rest!

Q: @councillorcowdy asks why developer agreed
A: Bridge vital + much lobbying!

Q: @KayleighFONeill highlights path need
A: Existing Road/path alternatives v poor


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@carfreeholyrood written deputn

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#FutureStreets policy v welcome
BUT
increases🚙between #HolyroodGait & #PollockHalls

Despite @HistEnvScot Objective 5 "Make #activetravel dominant travel mode through & to the Park" democracy.edinburgh.gov.uk/documents/b241…



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7.1 #MobilityPlan & 7.2 #FutureStreets massive policy docs, will discuss together
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Q: Cllr @jomowat says local issues #potholes #accessibility should come first

A: @CllrScottArthur says #accessibility+#congestion+#emissions require fewer🚙 democracy.edinburgh.gov.uk/ieListDocument…

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#MobilityPlan+#FutureStreets

Speaker #PeterVansevenant from #Ghent about their #CirculationPlan
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Also #safety policy
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🚲now ~30% of all trips
Fewer🚙=>safer🚲🚶‍♀️
Use #ANPR to enforce; not allowed by @scotgov
archive.etsc.eu/documents/P.Va…



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Qns to #PeterVansevenant

Q: @KatrinaFaccenda How cater for #tourist coaches
A: Try to minimise but permits planned

Q: @julebandel Incremental or AllinOne?
A: Ghent - all in one, with much publicity

Q: @FinlayMcF Deliveries?
A: #cargobikes daytime; vans early&late Image
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Qns to #PeterVansevenant

Q: @SanneDD What would you do different?
A: Even more publicity to counter #misunderstanding and #socialmedia

Q: @CouncillorCowdy Most difficult aspect?
A: Permit allocation; too lax initially

Q: Cllr Munro: Costs?
A: Costs were not high Image
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7.1 #MobilityPlan & 7.2 #FutureStreets being discussed together
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Officer: Compared to many cities, #Edinburgh streets are a low % of city space, so at a premium
Hence need to implement priorities in #citycentre #towncentres #ArterialRoads democracy.edinburgh.gov.uk/ieListDocument…
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#MobilityPlan+#FutureStreets

Q Cllr Munro: concern re bus capacity
A: Congestion + commuter🚙are top #bus problem;
need🚙restrict + regional work with @SEStran

Q @CouncillorCowdy: 30%🚙-km reducn not feasible?
A: #Ghent shows can be low cost via traffic orders etc

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#MobilityPlan+#FutureStreets

Q: @FinlayMcF: #CityCentre boundary too small? e.g. #LothianRoad excluded

Q: @CouncillorCowdy: should emphasis be on junctions more than onroad lanes, as they are top danger & cash limited?
A: Complete network needed, including jns

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Q: @HalOsler: Will #LothianRoad project mess up like #PicardyPlace?
A: Past projects were one-off designs
#CirculationPlan takes network approach; projects not seen in isolation

Q: @DAstonSNP Incremental or #AllinOne change?
A: Zonal approach being invesatigated Image
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Cllr @julebandel strongly welcomes but
urgency in view of #climatecrisis
e.g 7-7-7 #buslanes

Cllr Munro wants plan paused: too ambitious; do #potholes, repairs, etc, not restrict traffic

Vote 7-4 for motion+Green amendt democracy.edinburgh.gov.uk/documents/s664…



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#FutureStreets #CirculationPlan

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The Plan includes
..what modes will have priority on what roads
..neighbourhood work across the city
..2024 #Cowgate🚙reduction
..A8 #Roseburn #Corstorphine #Gogar early corridor
.. much more democracy.edinburgh.gov.uk/documents/s664…


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#FutureStreets #CirculationPlan

Many amendts->
but all parties except Con want it to go ahead

@DAstonSNP: #HolyroodPark🚙reduction must happen
@halosler #LibDem: pause #NorthBridge restriction
@julebandel #Green: #LothianRoad + cycling issues democracy.edinburgh.gov.uk/documents/b241…



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7.3 #Roseburn Tramline report
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Officer: tram is vital, linking huge destinations, hospitals, massive Granton developt

On🚲, Spokes deputation earlier
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Background--> democracy.edinburgh.gov.uk/documents/s664…

spokes.org.uk/2024/01/propos…

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#Tram extension

Q: @DAstonSNP Surely more patronage if tram onroad?
A: No. (a) Roseburn time 7 mins better (b) connects to #Haymarket & #WestEdinburgh

Q: Cllr Dobbin: why recommend🚲discouraged?
A: (a) Width problem + pinchpoints; (b) primarily recreational (!)
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#Tram extension

Q: @HalOsler What will be ecological impact?
A: Detail will be prepared to go into the consultn

Q: @KatrinaFaccenda Many letters on🚲; will @scotgov be willing to include the cost?
A: Council will make the strongest case possible to benefit all
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#Tram extension #Granton to @EdinburghBQ

@CllrScottArthur amendt so the consultn will include
(a) tram onroad v. offroad
(b) pros & cons of high quality🚲👩‍🦽🚶‍♀️path

@DAstonSNP: it blew my mind to find a🚙-free route #Leith to #Roseburn (& soon #Gorgie & #UnionCanal)

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#Tram extension #Granton to @EdinburghBQ

Cllr @HalOsler #LibDem seeks tram #onroad to maximise #nature #wildlife

Cllr @julebandel #Green says consultn needs full consideration of🌲&🚲👩‍🦽🚶‍♀️
and consultn on both tram options

Cllr Munro (Con) wants consultn postponed


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#Tram extension #Granton to @EdinburghBQ

@CllrScottArthur accepts #Green & #SNP amendts (slight changes)

Voting
7 Lab+Green+SNP
2 LibDem
2 Con

👍SO, the consultation will..
(1) consider pros & cons of tram onroad/offroad
(2) treat cycling option beside tram as +ve


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⬆️Thread from #Transport Cttee (TEC) 1.2.24

Includes:
👍#Tramline decisions on consultn contents re onroad/offroad & place of🚲
👍#CirculationPlan #FutureStreets
👍Inspiring speaker on #Ghent traffic reduction
👍Deputations: Spokes, @Longstone_CC, @carfreeholyrood


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