This "the courts are slow-walking Trump's immunity claim" narrative (for the most part coming from non-lawyers who don't understand anything about the system) is truly pissing me off. So here's the real story. 1/
President Trump was indicted last August. Notably that's the biggest slow walk of all- an August 2023 indictment for a January 2021 alleged crime, and 10 months after Jack Smith was appointed. But Smith is a saint among men and "on our team", so he cannot be criticized. 2/
President Trump's motion to dismiss was filed on September 29, less than TWO MONTHS after the case commenced. Judge Chutkan, who, again, gets no criticism because she's on the right "team", decided it on December 1, a two month delay. 3/
Nonetheless, to be clear, Judge Chutkan deserves no criticism for this. Two months from filing to decision on a motion to dismiss in federal court is VERY FAST. Usually you are looking at six months or more. This case was expedited. 4/
Donald Trump had a right, under law, to appeal this ruling to the Court of Appeals and to stay the trial court proceedings while he did it. You may not like this rule, but it applies to ANYONE raising an immunity defense, not just Donald Trump. 5/
President Trump took his appeal and the court concluded briefing in JUST ONE MONTH, and then held oral argument on January 9 and decided the case February 6. This is LIGHTNING FAST. Most CoA cases take about a year to a year and half between commencement and conclusion. 6/
Further, the DC Circuit itself broke a norm to speed up the case further, and NOBODY criticized it for breaking this norm. It's a technical issue, but the "mandate" is the date on which a court of appeals judgment goes into effect. 7/
In a normal case, you get 15 days to petition the court to rehear the case (in case some error was made) or to suggest that the full court, rather than a 3 judge panel, hear the case, and then the decision takes effect 7 days after that. 8/
The DC Circuit panel took those 22 days away from President Trump. It did so even though we have no idea if the full DC Circuit actually might have wanted to hear the case. Doesn't matter, the panel said, we won't let you. The decision takes effect immediately. 9/
So President Trump was forced to file immediately for US Supreme Court review. Even here, his time was cut. Normally you get 3 months to file a petition to the Supreme Court. The DC Circuit gave President Trump A WEEK. Again, enormous speed. 10/
President Trump filed his application for SCOTUS to take the case on February 12. SCOTUS decided within just SIXTEEN DAYS to grant the application.
And then SCOTUS set a HIGHLY expedited briefing schedule. 11/
Normally, a case that is taken by the Supreme Court on February 28 will be briefed through the spring and summer, heard in October when the new term starts, and decided the following January or so. 12/
But SCOTUS held all briefing will be done by APRIL and it will be orally argued the week of 4/22. That sets this up for decision in early May. A motion that was filed in September goes through all three levels of the federal court system and gets decided by May. That's FAST! 13/
Want to know what regular order looks like? Well, Judge Chutkan takes 6 months to rule on the motion to dismiss, and rules on it the last week of March 2024. The DC Circuit appeal takes a year and is decided in March 2025. Throw on another month for the en banc denial. 14/
Trump petitions for certiorari in Spring 2025 and his petition is granted and the case is briefed in the summer and early fall and is argued in November 2025. It is decided in March 2026. That's what regular order is. This case has been expedited by ALMOST 2 YEARS TOTAL. 15/
And if you want to argue that a 5/24 decision is still too late, well, SCOTUS only controls the last 3 months of that delay. The rest of it? Blame the liberal Judge Chutkan and DC Circuit and ESPECIALLY the DOJ, who DIDN'T BRING THIS CASE FOR 2 1/2 YEARS! 16/
Seriously the court system took almost 2 years off a case that DOJ took 2 1/2 years to bring. The Supreme Court itself took 8 months off of the case. And we're blaming the Supreme Court? This is utterly wrong. 17/
The reality is once the DOJ decided it would take 2 1/2 years to bring January 6 charges, this goose was cooked. And that is the case even though the federal courts, including SCOTUS, tried to pull it out of the oven quicker at the end. End/
@MarkGattozzi @ARozenshtein 2. SCOTUS taking the case in December would have been extraordinary. SCOTUS rarely jumps in before a Court of Appeals has acted, and Jack Smith's argument that they should have was actually a lot weaker than Trump's immunity argument. It was never happening.
@MarkGattozzi @ARozenshtein 3. Sat for weeks? They decided the cert petition 16 days after receiving it, which again is lightning fast by SCOTUS standards.
@MarkGattozzi @ARozenshtein (It allowed Justice Jackson to sit on the affirmative action case.)
Also at least 6 cert before judgment cases were grant vacate and remand cases where court corrected some procedural error, not merits cases.
@MarkGattozzi @ARozenshtein As far as I know this would have been only the 5th case of its kind to jump the Court of Appeals in the last 20 years or so had they granted cert before judgment.
@MarkGattozzi @ARozenshtein (But perhaps you know more about appellate practice than I do. :) )
@SirCanuckles TBC I don't think that. I think 2 months is fine.
@InquisitiveUrsa See also the immigration judges issue which slows up asylum processing. We just don't have enough judicial officers at multiple points in the system.
@mo_sabet @MarkGattozzi @ARozenshtein It's at the point where I've answered most of the talking points. :)
@mo_sabet @MarkGattozzi @ARozenshtein And I'm not saying you do this but there's a "they do this all the time" sort of talking point being thrown around and no, even now, they really don't do it all the time. It's very rare.
@reedtcampbell Whereas here, this is not a discovery issue or grinding ongoing investigations to a halt. It's just a legal issue about whether there can be a trial.
@Trillest110 @Perl_of_Wisdom @ChiCyph80 @MarkGattozzi @ARozenshtein There's a reason Finley Peter Dunne's joke about SCOTUS following the election returns has so much bite. You don't want courts thinking about this shit, let alone trying to influence the results of elections (which of course is the real goal here).
@Trillest110 @Perl_of_Wisdom @ChiCyph80 @MarkGattozzi @ARozenshtein I definitely want the official rule to be "the election is legally irrelevant".
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It's late at night (not where Claire is, of course), and it might be worth exploring this hypothetical and what it really tells you about pro-lifers and pro-choicers, religious types and secular types.
So first, I'll state the obvious, you of course save the baby. Why?
Well, I'm going to state something at the beginning that's going to surprise you-- it's not because human life doesn't begin at conception, although that question is more complicated than pro lifers say it is. (There's an identical twins hypothetical that gets at that.)
Rather, let's assume that a zygote (a fertilized human egg) is a human life. It's a totally plausible position, despite the identical twins issue.
You still save the baby. But why do you save the baby?
because of all the cultural presumptions around monogamy and the claims that it is the natural state of things, people assume that it is natural for two human beings to live out their lives having perfectly coordinated and synchronized sex drives the entire time.
that is, in fact, rare. and when it doesn't happen, the dumbest thing in the world is to destroy a productive partnership over this. And the second dumbest is to try to convince yourself that sexual fulfillment is unimportant and disposable.
I will tell you, being ratio'd by the people who.... um.... passionately oppose trans women's participation in sports, and reading their responses, certainly didn't convince me that they just passionately care about c i s women and hold no prejudices against trans folks.
I'll just pick one particular line of response-- at least 30 people (5% or so of all responses) responded by saying trans people are mentally ill and we shouldn't cater to their delusions.
And I'm sorry, but people who say that, say that with glee. They mean it as an insult.
I knowin the ideal world, there's no stigma attached to mental illnesses. But people who call trans people "mentally ill" are counting on the stigma. They love the stigma. They want to hurt their targets.
And then they deny that they are being cruel. Just protecting women.
"Why can't we just have one binational state in Israel-Palestine? Jews and Palestinians can live together!"
Well, no, we can't. For all sorts of reasons. A thread.
First, how exactly is this going to work? I remember Matt Yglesias doing a podcast with Robert Wright, who is a big one-stater. And Yglesias made a clever point. He said all the organizations that support 2 state solutions have extensive and detailed plans about how it will work.
Meanwhile, one staters just had the slogan of a binational state. No plans. Nothing that would solve the basic problems.
And of course the reason for this is that the sincere 1 staters (and we'll get to THAT point in a moment) have no way to prevent civil war from breaking out.
The stories about ICE abuses are a good jumping off point to talk about something that I think low key is one of the worst things the legal conservative movement has done-- eviscerate the Bivens doctrine for suing federal officials who violate the Constitution.
Bivens is named for Bivens v. Six Unknown Named Agents of the Federal Bureau of Narcotics, a 6-3 decision of the early Burger Court, basically from the same era as Roe v. Wade.
Bivens held that innocent people could sue federal agents for violating the 4th Amendment in a search.
Bivens was an example of exactly the sort of common law rulemaking which we inherited from the British legal system (and thus, I think it is a perfectly fine decision). The Constitution doesn't set out remedies, just rights.
Hot take on Singapore-- its Achilles Heel is that it is a grossly authoritarian society with draconian punishments for lawbreaking. Americans would not like that.
But that kind of society probably DOES benefit the working class.
Singapore's system means that if you are working class you don't grow up around lots of crime. It means that if you are the type of person who is likely to face severe drug addiction that drives you to homelessness the government will simply stop that from happening.
It is the type of system that will incarcerate you to make sure you get your mental health treatment if you are danger to yourself or others. And it is the type of system which will subsidize you and educate your children if you are striving to move up the ladder.