THREAD 🧵 “Debunking SagasofBharat’s Lies: Proving the Existence of Prophet Muhammad
In recent times, there has been a resurgence of misinformation regarding the existence of Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him). SagasofBharat, known for spreading false narratives, has
attempted to cast doubt on the historical reality of the Prophet. In this thread, we will dismantle these falsehoods, relying on solid historical evidence and scholarly consensus to reaffirm the indisputable truth: Prophet Muhammad was indeed a real historical figure.
Let’s explore the facts and debunk the myths. To see if Muhammad (570 - 632) did exist as an Historical figure, we shall carry out a research not on the relics attributed to him, rather search for him in the artifacts, inscriptions, manuscripts and coins from his era,
confirmed by radio carbon dating, numismatics, and epigraphy. To summarize, yes He did indeed exist, so did his companions like Abu Bakr, Umar, Uthman, Ali, Abu Talib, Zubair, Abdullah ibn Zubair, Marwan ibn Hakam, Muawiyah, Abu Ubaidah, etc. We have more proof for their
existence, more than we have for other historical figures like Alexander the Great or Genghis khan. But I'll focus on the question, and discuss only the prophet Muhammad, and ignore his companions. We shall start with the oldest source.
I'll take you back to the battle of trench, March 627 AD – April 627 AD. This battle was fought by the anti islamic forces of Quraish and Ghatanfan against Muslims of Madinah. Muslims were under the lead of Prophet Muhammad. A companion is the prophet, Salman the Persian
advised to build a trench around the city North of the mount Sela. During the battle, prophet's cousin, Ali ibn Abu Talib showed great bravery fighting at two fronts. During the battle, Quraizah, a Jewish tribe rebelled against Muslims. The Muslim chieftain of Madinah,
a prominent companion of Muhammad, Saad ibn Muad acted as an arbitrator to pronounce judgment upon them.
Now in the last century, an rock inscription was discovered in mount Sela containing the names of prophet Muhammad, Ali, Salman, and Saad.
In the fourth and fifth line appear the words, “I am Muhammad bin Abdullah” and that is the full name of the prophet Muhammad as his father was Abdullah. In the eighth line is the name, “ I am Salman the (?)”. In the twelfth line is the phrase “I am Sa'd bin Mu'adh”. And Finally
And Finally on the fifteenth line “I am Ali bin Abu Talib”. As it is known that Saad ibn Muad died in 627, the inscription can not be from a later era. Note: ‘Ibn’ or ‘bin’ are Arabic words meaning 'son of'. The inscription does not bear a date because the islamic hijri
calendar was not devised until 639 CE. Based on the writing style, it is most likely from around 625 CE according to Y. H. Safadi. In either case it is a confirmed contemporary mention of the prophet Muhammad and some of his companions.
Other inscriptions nearby mention the
Shahada and the names of Abu Bakr and Umar ibn Al Khattab. These may be from a later era, about mid 630s. Moving on the next earliest mention of the prophet Muhammad comes in a Quranic manuscript, catalogued as BnF Arabe 328(c) commonly known as the Birmingham Quran Manuscript,
now catalogued as Mingana 1572a, contains verses 17–31 of Surah 18 (Al-Kahf) the final eight verses 91–98 of Surah 19 (Maryam) and the first 40 verses of Surah 20 (Ta-Ha). The manuscript was carbon dated Between c. 568 and 645 CE with 95.4% confidence, and can be identified as
the first compilation of the Quran by Abu Bakr known as Mushaf al Hafsa. The text of this manuscript is the same as the modern one, with one verse division missing.
A lesser known fact to the western world is that Muhammad is known by 99 names, among them is “Ta-ha” which was
used by Allah to refer to the prophet Muhammad, and it appears in the folio 1 of the manuscript. Now moving forward, we know that Muslim armies conquered all of Arabia under the first caliph Abu Bakr. Now the great powers, the Sassanids and the Byzantine empires were hearing of
Prophet Muhammad. From the Byzantine empire we get the earliest dated mention of the prophet.
Teaching of Jacob (13–20 AH / 634–640 CE):
“The prophet had appeared” and “What can you tell me about the prophet who has appeared with the Saracens?"
This refers to Prophet Muhammad.
Next a manuscript known as BL . 14,461 (15-16 AH / 637 CE) mentioned Muhammad in the following words,
Next the syriac text preserved on BL Add. 14,643 (7 19 AH / 640 CE)
Here Prophet Muhammad mentioned by name along with the famous battle of Yarmuk / Gabitha(a town to the north of the river Yarmuk). Also gives the date for this battle: 20th August AG 947 = 636 CE / Rajab 15 AH.
Next the syriac text preserved on BL Add. 14,643 (7 19 AH / 640 CE)
Prophet Muhammad mentioned by name and recorded as a well-known person in Middle East only a year and half after his traditional death (June 8, 632 CE). This is first dated mention of Prophet Muhammad.
Next he is mentioned in a rock inscription from Jerusalem, know as Jerusalem 32 ,(32 AH / 652 CE)
This inscription just does not mention Muhammad as the messenger but also Abd al-Rahman bin Awf, and Abu Ubaydah bin al-Jarrah, both among the ten blessed companions.
The first mention to Muhammad on coins come from the coin of the Zubayrid governor of Bīshāpūr, ʿAbd al-Malik ibn ʿAbd Allāh bin ʿĀmir. He was the governor under Abdullah ibn Zubair, a prominent companion of prophet Muhammad.
Located in the British Museum, London. This is the earliest occurance of the name "Muḥammad" in a dated Muslim text, a silver drachm that bore the short shahāda.
Following this we have too much coming out mentioning Muhammad. So I decided to stop here, as I have covered some of the earliest authentic records, most of which would not be know to most of the readers.
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