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Apr 22 18 tweets 3 min read Read on X
The MAG 2025-28 CoP has been released! Here’s a quick mini thread of the changes and likely implications.
The biggest change you’ll see is that routines will now count the 8 highest values, not 10 which is a great change imo. It also will increase parity (definitely in the NCAA) as weaker competitors will lose two As and stronger ones maybe even two Ds
For element groups, you used to use have to count a skill to get the .5 credit, but now for EG II and III, A, B, and Cs will get you 0.3, and D+ 0.5, meaning you no longer can just do a front uprise on pbars and receive full element group credit, you’ll need a D like honma
For dismounts on all but floor, you get EG credit equal to the value of the skill. For example, a double layout 1/1 on rings gets 0.4 for being a D, 0.4 element group credit. A triple back which is a G, will get 0.7 skill value, 0.7 element group. Expect some hard dismounts.
For floor, you must dismount with a double flipping skill, but it does not specify what value, and they also upgraded back double pike, so it very well could become the new triple full
Some notable skill value changes are
-All double layouts are raised a value (double layout E, 1/1 F etc)
-Arabian double pike and lay are back! E and Fs
-Full in pike is an E
-Triple back and pike are moved to I and J respectively
Horse the most notable thing is downgrading of Russians, so a triple Russian and the dismount are only Cs, and there’s some skill value changes and some rules saying you can’t do more than one a similar travel element (one of Wu/roth)
Rings the biggest change is that you need a D to get full element group credit, so people who don’t have strength moves will get hit, if you count a Kip to L and a press as your strength moves, you’ll get 1.0 (0.2 value, .3 element group) in value, vs if you do two Ds gets 1.8
They also are downgrading yamawaki and jonasson to B and C, unless you do it directly to a swing to handstand, so pike yami to back uprise handstand remains a D
Pbars they are limiting the amount you can do of peach/front uprise and some other elements to two (think Curran Phillips) which is supposed to increase variety but instead is gonna give everyone a stock routine.
You also cannot change directions, so think a Healy, swing to handstand, you can’t swing back down into a dismount, you need to do a pirouette to keep the movement in the same direction
Oh and it was indicated that vault values were going to drop 0.4, but that is not indicated?? Seems like a mistake bc scores are gonna DROP on every other event
High bar is the one event everyone can collectively say GOOD JOB FIG!
-upgraded pike, layout, and twisting jaegers
-Gienger to D
-CV brings back pirouette to release connections (think Hambuechens layout+hop 1 1/2+jaeger 1/1!!!)
-D+D piro+release or release+release 0.1, E+D 0.2
Also, they added an additional angle deduction structure for hopping and Healy elements. This means rybalko, Healy, quast all get THIRTY degrees for no deduction (WAG TAKE NOTES!) and up to SIXTY for .1, high bar is gonna be SO FUN
OH and STICK BONUS is added for all events except horse. So stuck dismounts get 0.1 bonus!! Such a good move because it’s the one thing in gymnastics everyone regardless of knowledge knows is a good thing, and it often times isn’t reflected in scores
A big thing with floor is they no longer have a dismount element group, they are
1. Non acrobatic
2. Non twisting/double flipping backwards
3. Non twisting/double flipping forwards
4. Single flipping Forward AND backward with min 1/1 twist
For 2-4, it needs to be a D, so in order to get full credit, everyone will need a D double flipping backwards, double flipping forwards, and D twisting skill. Consequential for those not good at double flipping forwards
For the fourth element group, I think you only need one of a twisting skill forward or backward

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