Let's get into these cool badasses from South Asian mythology:
The Murats AKA the Marutagana are a group of storm gods out of the Tridasha, the Vedic 33, consisting of 11 in that pantheon, or ranging from 27 to 60 - or 3x60 in the Rig Vedas in number.
They are often linked to Rudras (not to be confused with the Vedic wind and storm god Rudra), but often considered the SONS of Rudra and Prisni.
Like the storms they represent and herald -
they're often violent, explosive, temperamental, angry, filled with gnashing teeth, clashing hearts and minds and skulls, and the scream of roaring lions (very fitting for thunder heads - storm bringers, yeah?).
Armed with radiant golden weapons - bright as lightning's flash,
living in the northwest from where they ride out on equally bright-golden chariots drawn by red-sun-colored ruddy horses. In the Vedic myths, they are companions of Indra, the big badass sky father and storm lord who slew the first born of dragons, the Asura, Vritra, --
also serving a role much like battle guards, elite troops to Indra, argued by some mythologist to be cognates of the Norse Einherjar as well as overlapping in with the Wild Hunt (not the oldest/first/or single use of a great hunt mythos - the oldest is a PIE (proto indo european-
myth known as the Cosmic hunt)).
They wear golden breastplates and wield golden axes with which they split the skies - thunderous clouds to give way to rainfall, sparking lightning and thunder. They are powerful enough to fell mountains with their roars and sounds of their-
blows. In some stories, they are said to have helped Indra in his battle against Vritra. In the later Puranas, however, it's said the Marut are the sons of Diti, after being forced to give birth early by Indra hurling a lightning bolt at her out of fear that she would give--
birth to a son powerful enough to challenge him - however, to do so, she would have to endure a hundred year pregnancy. So he acted and caused an early birth resulting in the Maruts.
Note: The idea of powerful sons overthrowing/challenging, scaring sky-fathers or prime
deities is an old and popular motif shown in comparative mythology - many cultures have this, and not just once.
Skyfathers, primordials, kings/sons, heroes, so on.
It like goes back to PIE stories of this and the story of Manus and Yeemo, and the idea of twins--
one of whom is killed/or dies.
Ymir is overthrown by his blood in Norse myth.
Uranus by Saturn/Cronos, his son, then Zeus overthrows him.
So on.
Anyways little myth ramble. Allergies, tired, work to do.
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Pakhangba - The Meitei/Manipuri Primordial Dragon God. It hails from Meitei religion and culture (From the Manipur Kingdom at the Indian/Burma border before it fell under the British Protectorate as part of overall India then).
The name Pakhangba means: "The one who--
has realized his father."
The story in short is: Pakhangba and his brother, Sanamahi, were given a task by their kingly father. The task?
The son who could circumambulate the universe 7 times, and then return to their father first, would be given the throne of the universe--
The older brother was of course, bigger, stronger, and faster. But Pakhangba had his mother's love, and so, her favor. This means, wisdom. She taught him that his father's throne was the universe, they are one and the same. So to circumambulation it, was akin to circumambulation
So, this thread is for @Spirited_Gal , who is a wonderful person & author. She reached out curious about Asian storytelling structures and techniques, then links to South Asian ones. This became a convo about native/common/historical structures/styles/techniques from South Asia.
So, let's get into some loosely (just to make y'all aware, without turning this into an academic essay because it easily can - but I do not have time for that, and am not being paid for that writing, and it could be a lot when fully fully fleshed out).
Katha | Kathya: this is an Indian style of storytelling rooted in religious stories (mythology) - the performances are ritual events in Hindiusm. Sikhism holds a different take on it but somewhat related in that there is a focus on religious discourse, taking things apart, -
When people ask why Tales of Tremaine has a silk road analog, and trade and currency and economy is talked about, it's because the history of India has never been monolithic, in religion, culture, exposure, none of it. Nalanda was the world's first residential university--
attracting students from across the world to study philosophy, science, religions (like buddhism especially), and magic (yes things like alchemy were pursued as well as the harder actual sciences). Trade happened, arts, people migrated out, and emigrated in, Indo-Greek kingdoms--
existed nearby. And, the subject of a future project of mine (inspired not a 1-1 as I mentioned earlier), the Portuguese Inquisition there.
So, a little about it.
Let us get into the time machine :whirring beepo beepy noises: We go back to 1510 CE - common era -
I'm in the gym, might have a gym thread later on some helpful tips for folks, but before that, given some things I've seen today and heard, I'm going to take this moment instead to stress this, which many of you have heard from me - still relevant:
Be...kind.
Seriously. It costs nothing.
But, my god.
In writing circles, in book circles, overall arts, entertainment, personal life, all of it, there is so much unkindness.
Quiet, behind backs, and in front of faces.
Just be kind.
You're adults.
This is in your power--your control--
everyone is going through shit you know nothing about.
And if you cannot understand that, cannot be kind, then do not do any harm.
Be silent.
Be still.
Few things are harmed that way. Few people get into trouble being still and silent.
Well, first, she is a river goddess, but daughter of the sun god, Surya. However, her name means the hot one, the burning one. Interestingly enough, her name is tied to the river she's said to rule over - HOWEVER, --
language time.
Agni, a vedic fire god, has a scythian counterpart similar in name (and the scythian's are the older culture that broke off to form the vedic, indo iranian/iranian, and levant people as well as others - mixing, breeding, invading).
Back to Tapati--
her name is cognate with the Scythian supreme fire goddess, Tabiti. Very interesting.
Tabiti is the supreme goddess of all things in the Scythian culture, primordial, the first flame, and much like Ianna (from summerian mythology I talked about later) went on to inspire entire-
Look late night, and I'm kind hecked up, but after my 2 writing tips popped off on AI, I should have just been honest and spilled the big writing secret:
You know no one needs an AI to write a novel right? Here's a secret fail proof tip on how to book:
You ever consider--
taking a trait of yours or a horrible flaw and just self inserting that into a piece of fiction (literary or sff) and then going hey they go off to learn a bunch of lessons to fix this and succeed or fail...or they fuck it all up? Maybe they get worse?
Hey-o...just called--
out a lot of fiction, but...yeah, uh, it works.
Ugh, I'm a well off middle class person with huge ennui and feelings of existential dread, I'll mope about it and hire a hooker and go on a journey of self discovery and not change by the end of it and just say that's life.