Thread by @IanCook321

I have been told by some that the tall buildings prophecy in the hadith literature is actually more specific and not general in its descriptions because we have reports that state where the tall buildings will be built (Mecca) and how tall they will be (talller than mountains):

First, the reports referenced are attributed to companions and are NOT raised to the Prophet. One can postulate that the content of the reports ultimately came from the Prophet, but that is speculative. As per traditional terminology, these are not Prophetic Hadith.

There are two companions who have reports attributed to them about the buildings in Mecca (and its connection to the end times): Abdullah ibn Umar and Abdullah ibn ‘Amr ibn al-Aāṣ, and the reports are found in six sources as per islamicsystem.blogspot.com/2022/01/authen…

First, we shall look at the report attributed to Abdullah ibn Umar. Here is the screenshot, which describes how he *saw* (notice past tense, indicates fulfillment at the time of recording of narration) houses on top of mountatins, and how THAT was the sign.

IOTW, the houses to come in the end times were not like modern tall buildings (like the tower in Mecca), but rather houses build *on* the mountains. BTW the chain contains a character the Sunni sources say is daef, Yazeed ibn Abi Ziyād, so the report would be considered weak

Let's now go through the reports attributed to Abdullah ibn ‘Amr ibn al-Aāṣ. The famous ones are these, which have the sign being when Mecca has buildings that surpass the tops of mounatins. However, 'Ataa al-'Amri, the father of Ya'la, has not been well documented/is unknown.

The other reports are not so vague in nature, unfortunately, and so it is clear what exactly is being attributed to Abdullah ibn ‘Amr ibn al-Aāṣ: the fact that the buildings will be *on top* of the mountains, and the fact it was already occuring when recorded!

These reports have the weakened Yazeed ibn Abi Ziyād and Muslim ibn Khālid (who was weakened by Bukhāri, Abu Ḥātim, Abu Dāwud). All the reports have a narrator or chain considered problematic by traditonal Sunni scholarship.

I don't think I covered all the reports here, but most of them I did. Link will be provided to an article with some more of them for you to look at. islamicsystem.blogspot.com/2022/01/authen…

In short: these are not Prophetic Hadith, there are elaborations that indicate that the buildings will be (or *are* in the case of reports where it already is occuring) on top of the mountains instead of from the ground up, trad Sunni scholarship has weakened the narrators/chains