With #H5N1 #birdflu spreading amongst dairy cows, one of the most important things to think about right now is what would need to happen for this virus to actually start a pandemic.
I'm on a train, so a brief thread...
One thing to remember is that compared to some other influenza viruses H5N1 actually faces pretty high barriers to becoming a human-to-human pathogen. I wrote a story a little over a year ago outlining some of the changes it would probably need: science.org/content/articl…
As @PeacockFlu told me at the time: H5 probably has one of the largest barriers to being a pandemic virus of any avian influenza virus. “It's really wrong in so many ways”, he told me.
But as @PeacockFlu also pointe out: “Obviously it only has to get the right combination of mutations once to jump.”
Getting that combination may be the virus’ equivalent of winning the lottery, but with millions and millions of viral particles in a milliliter of milk, boy oh boy is this virus buying a lot of lottery tickets.
@PeacockFlu That’s what Martin Beer meant when he told me recently: “Nobody wants this dangerous virus to become entrenched in a new species that we use to produce food and that has so much close contact to humans.”
@PeacockFlu In theory there is a shortcut for the virus to acquire a lot of changes at once and that is reassortment: The influenza genome is made up of 8 separate segments and when two different viruses infect the same cell they can get reshuffled like two decks of cards coming together.
This is why researchers have always been worried a lot about pigs. They can get infected with both human and avian influenza viruses and are sometimes called “mixing vessels” because of that.
And this is where a recent preprint on the receptors in cows’ udders comes in.
The authors show that a cow’s mammary gland contains both duck-type and human-type flu receptors (sialic acids, more about them another time). And they write that this shows that “cattle have the potential to act as a mixing vessel” for new flu viruses.
Most researchers I've talked to are pretty skeptical of this idea, however. For the udder to function as a mixing vessel, you would have to have the same cells infected by H5N1 and a human flu virus. As far as we can tell that is highly unlikely.
Even Richard Webby, one of the preprint's authors, agreed with this when I talked to him. “The possibility is there, but you’re dead right, it’s a pretty rare occurrence, I'd think, even this outbreak.”
In more than 25 years of studying H5N1 this is the first time it had been seen in a cow’s udder, he noted.
But that doesn’t mean that the presence of both types of receptors does not pose a risk for the virus adapting over time to the human receptor.
As @PeacockFlu told me there is a pattern in some species that have both receptors for the virus to adapt (in the long-term, not the short-term!) to the second one. “It seems a good reason to get this eradicated from cattle as soon as possible.” science.org/content/articl…
The point of all this is that there are ways we can see that the virus might start to change in exactly the ways we don’t want it to change. That might not happen tomorrow or next week, but the longer it spreads and replicates, the more likely it is to happen.
And that's just what we know. Until a few weeks ago no-one anticipated that cow’s udders would have these two types of receptors and that avian flu would grow so well there.
And as @Helenbranswell points out in this great piece, that is the whole point of our experience with this virus: It keeps surprising us. statnews.com/2024/05/09/bir…
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The thing that most strikes me about the current #H5N1 #birdflu outbreak in cattle (and terrifies me to some extent) is how much the virus surprised us once again. And how cavalier our response seems in the face of that fact.
Remember that this is not a new virus. As Martin Beer, an expert on bovine viruses and on influenza, told me a few days ago: “This is not SARS-CoV-2. There is 27 years of research on this virus.” And yet…
He also told me that if someone had painted the exact scenario we are in right now a few months ago, his response would have been 'How do people come up with these crazy stories?'.
Stat’s @HelenBranswell talking about covid vaccine messaging and „The curse of the 95%“ now at @ESCMID #ECCMID2024
Many scientists realized that expectations for a vaccine that is injected into the arm to prevent a respiratory infection were too high, she says, but the public was not prepared for this…
The comparison with flu is interesting, says @HelenBranswell: Not only was the model ignored in communicating about the covid19 vaccines but in the end the things that people in the US accept about flu vaccines are not accepted for covid19 vaccines… #ECCMID2024
So sad to hear that Paul Alexander passed yesterday at age 78 from Covid-19. Paul contracted polio in 1952, when he was just six years old. He ended up in an iron lung and while he could live outside it for extended periods of time he never really left it.
Two years ago my colleagues and I talked to Paul for a few polio episodes of our @pandemiapodcast.
Paul told us about the full life he lived, about the horror of the disease, about studying law and practicing as a lawyer, writing a book and much more.
@pandemiapodcast At the time we put out a special episode just with the interview. (There is a German intro til about 8:00. then you can hear the full interview in English though he can be hard to understand over the sound of the iron lung) files.podcaster.de/podcasthosting…
The two papers on the #H5N1 avian influenza outbreak in cats in Poland make for really interesting reading. The first describes the outbreak and the second investigates the emergence and transmission.
(I'm on a train again so a brief thread).
"Information about a highly fatal disease in cats with respiratory and nervous system signs began to circulate in social media and among cat lovers in mid-June 2023." Cases were mostly from cities but across the map...
https://t.co/R5vrPnMs0ieurosurveillance.org/content/10.280…
Symptoms were similar in all cases: "loss of appetite, apathy, hypersalivation, fever ... followed by nervous symptoms such as epileptic seizures, increased muscle tension and sometimes stiffness of the limbs." Most cats were euthanized, the others died a natural death.
A paper just out in @Eurosurveillanc describes the large and ongoing #H5N1 avian influenza outbreak in fur farms in western Finland with infections in foxes, American minks and raccoon dogs. (Paper mentions 20 farms though 2 more have been affected since): eurosurveillance.org/content/10.280…
@Eurosurveillanc I wrote about an earlier outbreak on a fur farm in Spain last year and why these are concerning:
Here again it looks likely that the virus was transmitted from mammal to mammal and even between different species:science.org/content/articl…
@Eurosurveillanc “Transmission between fur animals is also supported by the general epidemiological pattern of several hundreds of sick and dead animals on the 20 farms. The exact mechanism of the transmission within and between farms is, however, not yet known.”
I spoke to @WHO's new chief scientist @JeremyFarrar about why he decided to take the job, what new technologies the world needs to prepare for and how dangerous #SARSCoV2 remains.
Q&A is here (and short thread coming in a bit): science.org/content/articl…
@WHO @JeremyFarrar Farrar is only the second person to hold this post. @doctorsoumya, who was the first, had to pivot to #covid19 after a few months in the position and so, Farrar told me, "it’s fair to say that the role of chief scientist is still to be fully framed".
@WHO @JeremyFarrar @doctorsoumya He wants to bring "a sense of tomorrow" into WHO, Farrar told me, anticipating new technologies:
"What is coming down the track? What do we need to prepare for now, to ensure that inequality and health disparities are not exaggerated by those new technologies?"