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People seem to be waking up this weekend to the fact that there is very real grassroots pushback to efforts to force Biden off the ticket. Whether that is determinative or merited I’ll leave to the side for the moment. This should not come as any surprise.
2/ It also gets at what has always been the most worrisome to me about this whole process. This entire conversation is taking place among campaign staffers, journalists, political influencers, elected officials et al who know virtually nothing abt what rank and file Dems …
3/ feel about any of this. The thinking seems to be well what do they know. Well, maybe nothing. But they’re the voters, who the whole thing depends on. This is where the legitimacy comes in. People voted for Biden in the primaries. That means something.
4/ I’m not saying this prescribes any particular course of action. But again the entire conversation is essentially the political and journalist elite talking to each other.
5/ Addenda: I *think* it was Rep Debby Dingel who was on tv at the beginning of the week saying Biden needs to do a ton of press, needs to solve this etc. then she went back to the district and people were stopping her and saying hey what are you talking about?
6/ Like we had a primary. We chose Biden. What are you talking about? And then she seemed to realize this wasn’t as simple as she thought.
@Timodc 2/ And to be clear, when I say “elite” here I don’t mean it in a loaded or performative sense, just a purely descriptive sense. Connected people with profile jobs, big megaphones, elected officials etc. the people whose voices carry the farthest.

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I think Jon’s argument here is to a degree a straw man. He says at the bottom that the half dozen or so stakeholders in this conversation need to pick the best candidate. And if it’s Harris, he says, great, off to the races. His argument here seems to be…
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I really have engaged this question with many of these folks. The answers are comical and revealing. We start with the calendar and how time works. And once we get past when 2020 is the space time continuum and I ask again what about the Trump Crime Wave you get an ….
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