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@StMichael71
Aug 16 • 4 tweets • 1 min read • Read on X
"...it is said that God, knowing that man would sin, allowed him to sin because he knew this would benefit him, and for this reason did not deny sin access, because it had been ordained by God from the beginning that through comparison and experience we would be able to...
ascertain the greatness of those infinite blessings. For the sake of this, namely that it would profit us, he let sin enter, and man found great assistance in his war against this same sin. Because these words are alien to the meaning of divine scripture, with the result that...
...it is said that sin was introduced by God for our benefit, if anyone holds, teaches, believes or preaches this accordingly, let him be anathema.

For the holy catholic church holds and believes for certain that God both forbade the first man to sin and also punished him ...
... with a just penalty when he sinned through disobedience, but that, making good use even of our ills through the incarnation, passion, death and resurrection of his only-begotten Son... he freed us by a singular remedy from the entanglement of every sin."

Constantinople II

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Aug 5
As I was reading the Acta of the Fifth Ecumenical Council (Constantinople II), I discovered three interesting facts about which I might write up a scholarly article in the future.

1. The Origenist anathemas were plausibly affirmed in the conciliar anathemas, since Origen ...
... is explicitly named in their condemnations with reference to his pernicious doctrines previously condemned, which looks a clear reference to the condemnations signed before the council. (As I partially explained in an earlier post).
2. The doctrines of Theodore of Mopsuestia concerning hell are explicitly mentioned as heretical, although it does not state what they are (it says they are unsafe to mention). But we know Theodore was a universalist, and his positions get taken up by such as Isaac the Syrian.
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Jan 17
A lot of these criticisms depend very much on how we think of hell.

If the damned are adamant in their hated of God and others, and unhappy about those in heaven rejoicing, I don't think the blessed should be hostages to the damned. That's just to further victimization.
I don't think most people spend lots of time (not even universalists!) worrying/being sad because the Devil does not love God. People are concerned about loved ones in hell. The question is really about what happens in that case. Importantly, compassion isn't simply sadness.
Jacques Maritain once wrote about the way in which God is compassionate with our suffering without being sad (without losing His own happiness). It's higher than our compassion.

If this makes sense for God, the blessed can have a similar attitude toward the damned.
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Jan 15
Having now read Eric Perl's 'Thinking Being,' (after reading 'Theophany' and his other articles) I continue to be unimpressed by his idiosyncratic reading of ancient/medieval authors. But I gained insight into why his views might attract: they make God's existence trivially true.
Perl adopts apophatic language to claim God does not exist, but is 'just existence.' While there is a kind of view in apophatic tradition nominally like this view, what Perl often says indicates that he takes the view in an odd direction.
For him, God looks to be something like the Heideggerian notion of Being itself (roughly, the 'appearing of what appears' in some phenomenological sense). He then reads this view into all his preferred authors: Plato, Aristotle, Pseudo-Dionysius, Palamas, Aquinas, and Plotinus.
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Jan 3
"The fallacy of every universalist argument lies not in proving the love of God to be universal and omnipotent but in laying down the impossibility of ultimate damnation. ...There is not a shred of Biblical witness ...to support the impossibility of ultimate damnation."
"...one would be utterly at a loss to understand why Judas who for several years had the priceless privilege of enjoying to the full the love of the Son of God should not have found that love irresistible. If ever omnipotent divine love was manifested it was in Jesus Christ...
...and yet in the very hour when the supreme token of that love was given to him at the last supper Judas went out to betray that love with a dastardly kiss. ...divine love was poured out to the utmost that men in unbelievable hardening of heart rejected it to the very last."
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Sep 15, 2023
'Jesus' refers to the Person. Christ's Person pre-exists (temporally & logically) His incarnation, is uncreated, and is constituted by proceeding eternally from the Father. Jesus is not created.

His human nature is created. We CAN say: 'Christ is created in His human nature.'
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Here's what it seems to me that Jordan is saying, in the rest of the thread: it is proper to say Jesus is created from nothing, because not only His nature but His Person is created from nothing, and we can, by union with Christ, become uncreated in the same way that Jesus was.
Wood's metaphysics of the Incarnation is problematic. We could quote against it Aquinas' authority, that of the whole Greco-Latin orthodox tradition, or the authority of Chalcedon and Pope Leo itself which claim Christ did not gain anything by His birth in time from the virgin...
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Sep 11, 2023
Pseudo-Dionysius has been my spiritual reading, and I had forgotten that part of the Ecclesiastical Hierarchy where he discusses funeral rites. Obviously, he was not a universalist, as when discussing the fate of those who depart this life in a bad moral condition...
"Those, however, who are full of blemishes, and unholy stains, even though they have attained to some initiation, yet, of their own accord, have, to their own destruction, rejected this from their mind, and have rashly followed their destructive lusts, to them when they have ...
... come to the end of their life here, the Divine regulation of the Oracles will no longer appear as before, a subject of scorn, but, when they have looked with different eyes upon the pleasures of their passions destroyed, and when they have pronounced blessed the holy life...
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