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"The whole point of the post-menopausal female." It was an off-handed comment, I suppose. It was said in an off-handed way.

It was made by Peter Thiel VC guy and podcaster Eric Weinstein, and agreed to by Theil VP guy and flopsweat enthusiast JD Vance, and it reveals a lot.🧵
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"The whole point of ..." The topic seems benign—the benefits of having grandparents help raise children—which is a very true thing. It's easy for those who want to defend the comment to frame anyone who finds the wording creepy and sinister as overreacting.
Objectors can then be framed as *opposed* to multi-generational families, to raising children. And indeed these creeps do talk about the rest of us as if we hate things like family and children and society, even though they are the ones treating those things like possessions.
This is the value of off-handedness to people who want to achieve sinister things. It makes a nice little ditch to hunker down in, if people start to do something very divisive and polarizing like remembering your actual words, and managing to understand your clear meaning.
“The whole point of the post-menopausal female.”

It’s a way of speaking about others that has become familiar in recent years, the sort of creepy shit creepy dudes like JD Vance say and agree with in order to impress creeps who think creepy things about women and others.
Anyone paying attention knows there’s a whole passel of moist pallid online dudes who freebased Jordan Peterson throughout the 2010s and antisocialized themselves into treating relationships with women as a sort of transactional warfare between sexes.
In creepworld, men are bold adventurers looking for sex and family, which are natural human connections they seem to view as video game achievements to be bestowed upon them if they enter the proper cheat code.
In creepworld, women are hidden clay jars containing sex and family, to be discovered and then once found added to the inventories of adventuring men as acquisitions.

And creeps are thick on the ground these days. One might even become Vice President.
Some of these creepy perverts got rich on tech or crypto or whatever, and they think their wealth makes them geniuses instead of just wealthy, and the ones who didn't get rich through tech or crypto or whatever seem to think the wealth of the others conveys genius upon themselves
So now creeps go around talking about themselves as Alpha Chad masters of the universe, and speak of other human beings like they're fodder for their whims, and generally sound do their very best to sound like eugenicist mad scientists in Victorian novels.

And that's creepworld.
“The whole point of the post-menopausal female.”

It's that "the whole point of" that gives the game away. It creates this entire creaking haunted house of assumptions.
The assumption that comprises the frontage of the edifice is that women must have a point, and that certain men (them) are the ones who will define that point and make all adjudications about whether that point has been achieved.
The idea tucked on the backside of this already creepy facade is that a lot of people don't have a point, especially a lot of women. In the basement you find other assumptions about what is to be done with pointless people.
There are lots of pointless people in creepworld; people who either never had a point to begin with, like immigrants or refugees or unhoused people, or people who could have fulfilled their point as dictated by creeps in creepworld but instead chose to follow their own interests.
“The whole point of the post-menopausal female.”

I guess it's also the "the post-menopausal female" that gives the game away, because these creeps have this habit of framing women in a way that suggests that women to them are entirely a product of the status of their eggs.
Creeps are obsessed with women’s eggs; their relative fecundity, their usefulness in increasing the stock of citizens (with a mostly-unspoken but easily detectable preference for white citizens), and their overriding function in helping the woman fulfill their whole purpose.
It's not even "the whole point of post-menopausal woman." It's "the whole point of the post-menopausal female."

The.

The Female.

Creeps in creepworld get to be individuals. They get to be purposes in and of themselves. But not The Female. Not ever.
Post-menopausal women in creepworld aren't our aunts and mothers and grandmothers and neighbors and bosses and employees. They are a sex, post-fecundity, which has a single point to its existence, provided it fulfills that point, and if it doesn't, then it is nothing at all.
I might have mentioned that Thiel and Weinstein are VC guys. VC guys are great acquirers. They pick winners, they use their leverage to own them, they get all the value out of them they can, and they move on.

I think it’s a good frame for realizing how creepworld sees humans.
These would-be owners of the rest of us suck up all the value of society for themselves and propose to leave nothing behind for those of us who made the value, then use the fact of their theft to claim ownership of the rest of us.
This is what's so noxious about Donald Trump's new adoptive failson JD Vance and his long line of creepy podcast hosts and thinkfluencers and the money that backs them both.

We are all human.

We don't have *a point within* society.

We *are* society.
What these would-be owners of us all won't grasp is that women, like all the rest of us, are the whole point of themselves.

Women aren't an "achievement unlocked" for creeps who would own others. Women don't belong to them, nor do any of us. We aren't to be acquired.
We ARE society. This means that the whole point of society is us. It exists to sustain us, and while we bear the responsibility to be ourselves within it, it is a thing made by humanity and for humanity. It isn't a big box store to buy for billions and then sell off for parts.
Most of us realize this and aren't interested in their shit, which is why creepworld god-princes like Peter Thiel are working to get rid of all that dangerous voting as soon as possible.
More and more of us are looking at these perverted creeps, and we're asking them the question they most fear; they, who insist that the right of human beings to live their life is something that must be earned.

"OK, but what is the whole purpose of YOU?"
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I can't get over the signs.

Republicans held their Nuremberg rally last month, and shook their official MASS DEPORTATION NOW signs representing accelerated atrocity against our neighbors on an unimaginable scale.

The choice this presents is stark. It should be starker. 🧵 A nice-looking smiling older lady holds a MASS DEPORTATION NOW sign.
Sure enough, the convention featured the usual gleeful celebration of cruelty and domination as virtues, and the usual eager expressions of desire to continue dismantling our shared society for profit, and the usual listing of the undesirable qualities of undesirable people.
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Recent "what ever happened to 'when they go low we go high?'" hand-wringing puts me in mind of this essay I wrote in May. It's about the moral necessity of dealing in bad faith with fascists.

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Here's how fascism rises: on a tide of goodwill.

Here's what I want you to understand today: These Americans who want to kill Americans have, through their intent and actions, already destroyed the thing you want to protect. The norms you want to protect are already gone.
Either fascists get their way, and society is no longer accessible to most of us, or they don't, and everyone including them gets to access society. Therefore, I think they shouldn't get their way or be treated as if they should.
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Not so long ago, all of this was *weird.*
And it wasn't "normal" to be Jewish, it wasn't normal to be Muslim, it wasn't normal to be Hindu, it wasn't normal to be an atheist; nor to be Black, or Asian, or any identity in a category called "nonwhite" that people used without really thinking about it.

Again: weird.
It wasn't normal to be chronically sick or disabled, and it certainly wasn't normal to expect to be treated as a full member of society if your way of being was not normal. And there were many other ways of being that weren't "normal" either.

They were different, other—weird.
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Same people decided it was of utmost importance to call us disingenuous and foolish for thinking that “bloodbath” might mean “bloodbath” when coming from the lips of somebody who has spent 10 years both threatening and delivering bloodbaths.
A lot of media types are so attuned to the lesser dangers of alarmism that they maintain a vigilance not against dangers but against alarms, indifferent to the presence of greater dangers like smoke and fire, forgetting what alarms are for in the first place.
And a whole lot of regular folks, exposed daily to these professional context aficionados decided to become context aficionados ourselves, and decide that "context" is merely the most generous possible interpretation of whatever was said by a person who least deserves generosity.
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Because we are all invited by the media environment to be pundits rather than participants in the democratic process, here are my 10 predictions for the election.

1) There will be an election.

(This is my boldest prediction.)
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3) The other choice will head a party that is all too often capitulant to fascism, because they are a status quo party, and while our status quo includes centuries of significant progress, it is also an historically corporatized and capitalized and supremacist status quo.
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My book is about the tradition of American supremacy & the ways it shapes all of our lives, sabotages our natural shared society in order to steal all value from it for a few, makes others pay its unnaturally high costs ... and what we can do about it. armoxon.com/books/very-fin…
I find it useful to begin with art—with the idea that humans are art. The idea that to be a human is to be a unique expression of unsurpassable worth, whose worth is natural and inherent.

Focusing on this truth makes it easier to spot supremacy's anti-human lies.
These laws are *foundational*—literally, present at our founding. Our founding lies are:
1. We are not related to one another; a rejection of society
2. Life must be earned; a rejection of the humanity of others
3. Violence redeems; a rejection of one's own humanity
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