Thread by @petelincoln48

A/This will be a thread on a couple of new viruses from the 1980’s, but first a prelude

B/Quote from some dude named Guy Debord 40-50 years ago

“With the destruction of history, contemporary events themselves retreat into a remote and fabulous realm of unverifiable stories, uncheckable statistics, unlikely explanations and untenable reasoning.”

C/That has really stuck with me and explains a lot about today. History has been erased or falsified today. Many sense this, but are not equipped (time,money, etc) to overcome the Google Hide Engine and Wikipedia propaganda

D/I started questioning things sometime after 9/11 in my late 40’s when the internet was still open and propaganda not as strong. Fell into some rabbit holes, dug myself out and while I might still be in a hole or two events no longer surprise me, so I guess I learned something

E/Anyways, here is a short history on a couple of other viruses following my Polio thread for the history starved.

https://x.com/petelincoln48/status/1809367919694082481

F/Don’t take my word on anything, question everything and discover your own rabbit holes. History is but hypothesis now, so speculation is necessary

1/In the 1980’s
we had HIV -AIDS and non-HIV AIDS (aka Chronic Fatigue Syndrome CFS,ME/CFS) Outbreaks. HIV was identified and isolated and brought Fauci to the head of the NIAID

2/NIAID would go on to dominate viral research funding, Fauci and the CDC would reject any serious attempt to look for or admit a viral origin with CFS (read Oslers Web if you can find it).

3/Two Viral Immune Related Pandemics would hv been too much for Americans to swallow as an accident of nature. That might hv led some to call for an investigation, after all in 1969 the Pentagon requested $10 million funding to develop a virus affecting the immune system.

4/HHV-6. Discovered in 1986 by Robert Gallo, co discoverer of HIV after the beginning of a CFS epidemic. Thought by some to be a cause of CFS, but perhaps just a cofactor along with some other virus like Epstein Barr (1963).

Where might it hv come from?

sciencedirect.com/science/articl…

5/African green monkeys, squirrel monkeys, chimpanzees, and orangutan appeared to be the most frequently infected, with 75–100% of prevalence.

frontiersin.org/journals/micro…

6/African Green Monkeys. Hmmmm. Their kidneys were being used to grow virus for Polio Vaccine

7/Active infection by HHV-6 is found in association with patients suffering from CFS in significantly greater proportion than in the healthy….

sciencedirect.com/science/articl…

8/Well, I think I see why they didn’t want to link HHV-6 with CFS and prefer to write it off as a Woman’s psychological disease like with COVID vaccine Menstrual side effects

9/ CDC refused Congress instruction to provide a reporting protocol for CFS in 1986 while downplaying the disease

10/ But was it really new? In 1934 LA County Hospital had an outbreak said to be atypical polio affecting 12% of nurses/doctors. In retrospect those atypical Polio cases could have been CFS

11/Rockefeller Foundation provided $6 million to settle contingent on non-publicity of outbreak. What were they settling. They had funded an early Polio Vaccine trial by Brodie, which was given to HCW at the hospital

12/Maurice Brodie had used ingenious techniques to reproduce poliovirus in mice for vaccine trials. Called the Brodie vaccine it was given in trials to children in North Carolina and staff at LA County Hospital. Nine children who received the vaccine had died.

13/The MV Polio strain was used by Brodie and Park for their vaccines. The MV strain was created by a Rockefeller funded New York laboratory that was passaging poliovirus in primate brains, a technique which increased pathogenicity.

14/ The MV strain was created in 1916. There are those that believe that highly virulent virus escaped from the NYC LAB and caused the massive 1916 epidemic.

More details here

jeffreydachmd.com/wp-content/upl…

14a/When the polio epidemic finally died down after several harrowing months, it left carnage, with nearly 20,000 people paralysed and 6,000 deaths in New York City alone. It also left a toxic, ingrained legacy of fear.

14/b DDT (dichloro-diphenyl-trichloroethane) was developed as the first of the modern synthetic insecticides in the 1940s. It was initially used with great effect to combat malaria, typhus, and the other insect-borne human diseases among both military and civilian populations.

14c/forgive me for digressing, I will get back on track at 15

In early April, 1945, a report was released by the U.S. Department of Agriculture on two years of nationwide testing of DDT by department entomologists. The report spoke of DDT as a “two-edged sword,”

14/d A great deal more needed to be known about it before it could be deemed “safe for general use,” said Time magazine on April 16.

americanheritage.com/deadly-dust-un…

14/e Nevertheless, DDT was released for general use barely four months later. On August 31, 1945—three days before the end of World War II—the War Production Board revoked its allocation order reserving the insecticide for military use.

14/f Certification by government agencies for almost unrestricted agricultural, household, and other uses swiftly followed.

14/g The Food and Drug Administration, for example, established as “safe” a DDT content of up to 7 p.p.m. (parts per million) in foods, though no one could possibly know at that time what, if any, level was “safe” over the long run.

14/h The U.S. Department of Agriculture began regulatory actions in the 1950s to prohibit some of DDT's uses because of toxicological effects.

14i/The history of today regarding DDT is that Americans blissfully accepted DDT use w/o caution accepting media and governments confirmation of safety until a heroic American women in 1963 told us the truth and created a movement leading to its ban

14j/ There were already many skeptics of DDT. In the 1950’s a growing number of households reduced their usage , sought produce and DDT that were DDT free, and more cities and towns stopped spraying the streets with DDT

sciencehistory.org/stories/magazi…

14k/ You can see cases dropping before the Salk Vaccine was approved in 1955, and announced Safe and Effective

15/Back on track. What viruses might one find in a mouses brain? In 2009 researchers found a little known retrovirus in mice that also is found in many CFS patients. However, “you know who “ called it lab contamination and discredited the researcher .

nytimes.com/2012/02/07/hea…

16/But wait a minute, what about HHV-6 causing CFS?. Good question. Remember it is probably a cofactor. Some other viruses or toxins might also be involved.

16/Maybe a Mouse Retrovirus is another such virus. Still, its unclear which vax if any may have contributed to the epidemic in the 1980’s since I can not find any vax using mouse cell lines.

HHV-6 might have contributed to the vaccine spread since its found in AFG Monkeys

17/Enders pioneered the culturing of Polio Process in 1948 and describes his procedure using mouse brain

stphilipinstitute.org/wp-content/upl…

18/I don’t know if Salk used Mice for attenuation, but if so this possibly explaining a route of Mouse Retrovirus to that Vaccine if Formalin did not inactivate it

But Sabin did not , just monkeys kidneys, so I am dubious about any Polio Vaccine spreading mouse retroviruses

19/ Brodie’s experimental polio vaccine was given in combination with an immune serum, specifically designed to increase the function of the immune system. This accompanying immune serum was preserved with “merthiolate,” a trade name for thimerosal.

20/Thimerosal was used in many childhood and flu vaccines by the 1980’s , both of which were being given in more and more vaccinations . Perhaps also a contributing factor

21/I don’t know the vehicle for Mouse Retro Virus to enter the human population. Perhaps it was circulating after the Brodie Vax trials as participants spread it to family members and passed it on while hiding in their DNA, and then Thimerosal and HHV-6 were triggers to cause CFS

22/So enough on CFS. Guess what else infects African Green Monkeys. (SIV Monkey HIV) What would happen if live SIV was a contaminant of Polio vaccine, which was widely distributed as early as 1955. Not saying it was but if so would it somehow be able to morph into HIV in humans?

23/interesting quote

“It is commonly accepted that SIV, originally from African monkeys, was transmitted to humans, giving rise to HIV and resultant multiple outbreaks of HIV infection and AIDS.”

.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/P…

24/A new study led by the University of Nebraska-Lincoln is reporting the first in vivo evidence that strains of chimpanzee-carried SIVs can infect human cells.

25/ “The question was whether SIV strains that have not been found in humans have the potential to cause another HIV-like infection,” said senior author Qingsheng Li, associate professor of biological sciences and member of the Nebraska Center for Virology.

26/ “The answer is that, actually, they do. They get replicated at a very high level. It’s surprising.”

The team also found evidence for the long-suspected notion that SIV strains mutate upon entering cells to overcome human-specific barriers to infection.

27/Within 14 weeks, the same viral gene in two different SIV strains – including the ancestor of HIV-1 M – regularly underwent mutations at two key positions on that gene.

news.unl.edu/newsrooms/toda…

28/Unlike HIV infection, SIV infection is generally nonpathogenic in natural hosts, such as African green monkeys (AGMs), despite life-long high viral replication.

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/P…

29/We also provide the first age estimate for HIV-1 group N at 1963 (range 1948-1977). Man, 1963 was a really bad year

journals.plos.org/ploscompbiol/a…

30/Indeed, an analysis of archival blood samples from the earliest AIDS cases in Haiti suggests that HIV-1 originated in Africa and moved to Haiti in the mid-1960s and thence to the United States in about 1969.

31/The virus circulated “cryptically” in the United States for 12 years, infecting “several thousand” individuals there by 1978.

32/Recent research by Worobey et al. on the genomes of the earliest cases in the United States strongly indicates that New York City was the original site of HIV subtype B in 1970

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/P…

33/A 1995 article by Mansfield et al. claimed that the first simian AIDS cases at the New England center occurred among a group of macaques that had been obtained from UC Davis in 1970

34/So HIV and SIV were in US in the 1970’s , albeit in low numbers, and since HIV does not spread easily it remained at low numbers and undetected, although numbers no doubt were increasing in the gay population in the sex and drug crazed 70’s.

35/No doubt some of those with Hepatitis B whose blood was used to make the Vaccine were HIV Infected. Hep B vaccinations in gay men in the 1978-1981 trials no doubt accelerated the spread, at Warp Speed

36/Probably due to the HIV outbreak reduced the blood plasma supply needed to make the vaccine they had to switch to a recombinant Hep B Vaccine in 1986

37/So here we are, over 60 years later. We stopped using the Live Virus Vaccine for Polio in 2000. Not aware of any vaccine still using AGM kidneys for US use, except Rabies, so progress.

38/I think I hate monkeys

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