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Sep 7 15 tweets 4 min read Read on X
There are critical outstanding questions about the MO bird flu case that need to be addressed now (and why reporting delays are unacceptable). They concern its pandemic potential.

Where did this virus come from?
How was the infection acquired?
Is human transmission occurring?
Where did the virus come from?

Viruses don’t materialize out of thin air. They only come from infected hosts, so we need to think about how the patient could be exposed to said hosts. No contact with animals reported, but indirect contact or exposure could still occur.
This is also is why we need sequence data immediately.

Is this high or low path avian influenza?
Is this a reassortant? (Reassortment allows flu to take rapid evolutionary leaps ahead & cross species barriers)
Has the virus acquired mutations associated with human adaptation?
How was the infection acquired & from what host?

Birds, cows, pigs, rodents, other animals:
Shit/manure
Eggs
Raw milk
Handling or eating meat or carcasses
Unreported direct contact with stray or pet dogs/cats/birds

Humans:
Inhaled aerosols
Contact with body fluids
Fomites
Is human transmission occurring?

If the answer is yes, that’s very bad. One of the reasons H5N1 is considered low risk to the general public is that it doesn’t transmit efficiently between humans. If this infection was acquired from a human, that risk profile changes.
Also, if this infection was acquired from a human, that means undetected community spread is occurring and transmission chains are already established. The more complex these transmission chains are, the harder it is to contain using standard epi approaches.
I vividly remember my visceral gut punch reaction to reading this thread. I was in a car on my way to 30 Rock to an interview with @AliVelshi. I told the producers on arrival that this changed everything. This wasn’t an outbreak that could be contained. This was a pandemic.
In particular, this tweet was what made me realize that simply put, we were fucked. Undetected community transmission for weeks was beyond fixing with an epi investigation and isolation/quarantine.
And the reason it was undetected was due to the CDC’s inexcusable failure to rapidly develop a functional diagnostic test and enable clinicians, scientists, and local public health officials to implement testing themselves.

npr.org/2020/11/06/929…
These failures profoundly hindered identifying cases in a timely manner, which is what allowed cryptic community transmission to occur.
washingtonpost.com/investigations…
Oh and guess what? History is repeating with regard to testing for H5.
It is absolutely imperative to investigate whether the H5Nx case in Missouri was the result of human to human transmission to accurately assess risk to the public. That risk is much, much higher if that is the case. It is astonishing that so little urgency is being conveyed.
This is justified by “we aren’t seeing a signal in existing flu surveillance systems”…but so what? There wasn’t a signal in Snohomish County, WA in Feb 2020 either…because there wasn’t testing to identify one.
If Trevor Bedford & colleagues hadn’t taken it upon themselves to do their own testing, sequencing, and surveillance, we might not have known until the hospitals started filling up with Covid patients. If that had happened, even more people would have died.
So we need to *rapidly* answer these questions about where the virus came from, how it was acquired, and whether human to human transmission is occurring.

Our COVID response didn’t exactly cover our public health systems in glory. Let’s not repeat these mistakes for avian flu.

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More from @angie_rasmussen

Sep 7
This is being presented like it’s a triumph for flu surveillance, but I don’t think I would brag that the CDC and Missouri DHSS have known it was H5Nx for at least a week, probably longer, and waited to disclose this publicly until a Friday night.

cdc.gov/media/releases…
The patient was hospitalized on August 22nd and they only disclosed that it’s H5 with no known animal contact (meaning it could be human transmission) on September 6th? They also haven’t sequenced it or subtyped for neuraminidase yet.

health.mo.gov/news/news-item…
Human transmission would indicate that an H5 virus has significantly increased pandemic potential. So it’s important to assess that as soon as possible! But that can’t be assessed if nobody knows about it and health officials take their time doing basic testing.
Read 7 tweets
Aug 2
Yesterday I shared this piece by me & 40 colleagues on the harms of the “lab leak” hypothesis inflicts on science & scientists.

I’m not finished talking about it. The origins “debate” has consumed my life for >4 years & I want to talk personally about the damage it has caused.
First I’ll review what the commentary says because I know not everyone will read it. People are busy & @JVirology is not always going to publish thrilling page-turners for non-virologists. But here’s the link if you do want to read—it’s pretty accessible:

journals.asm.org/doi/10.1128/jv…
There are two hypotheses for how the pandemic began:

1. Lab leak: virologists made it and it came from a virology lab

2. Zoonosis: it was transmitted from an infected animal to a person at the Huanan market in Wuhan

Both are reasonable.

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Read 28 tweets
Jul 31
There's a big problem with the way the US is responding to the H5N1 cattle outbreak.

Samples are not being tested in a timely manner (months later) and then these results are not being disclosed in a timely manner (again, months later) either.

This outbreak is not containable.
A central principle of outbreak response and containment is to identify cases so they can be isolated. From there, contact tracing and quarantine measures need to be applied with the goal of eliminating further onward transmission (to cows, as well as spillover to humans).
In order for this to work, cases need to be identified as quickly as possible to prevent further spread and more undetected cases, which can then go on to spread the virus to new cows/animals/people.

And to identify cases quickly, you need to test in a timely manner.
Read 7 tweets
Jun 16
In spring 2020, Craig described NY Presbyterian Hospital to me as “the fucking apocalypse.”

By July, the same sentient pancake stack bragging about his spaceships told me that even though an even bigger surge was hitting sunbelt states, the epi data was “bs” & PCR is fake.
Because I, a virologist with 2 masters & a PhD, ~20 yrs experience with emerging viruses, & whose life at the time was like the forced reeducation scene in Clockwork Orange except with COVID data, was less skillful at interpreting basic epi data than a rich dude with opinions.


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This was a very stupid Twitter fight. It’s subjective who “won”—and certainly there were a lot of fanboys mad that I blasphemed their savior & ruined their fucking Mars colonization fantasies—but the consensus was that Elon was factually incorrect.
independent.co.uk/life-style/elo…
Read 10 tweets
Jun 4
People asking why this is factually incorrect…I’m at a conference today so am pressed for time but I’ll quickly address each of the 5 “key points.”

Bottom line: You can dress up unsupported horseshit in as much polished data viz as you want, but it still stinks.
Yes the virus emerged in Wuhan & the WIV is there & studies SARS-related CoVs, but that’s where the truth ends.

Shi Zhengli’s lab does great work on SARSr-CoVs, but they aren’t the only lab in the world doing so. They aren’t even the only lab in China doing this work. Image
In fact, people all over the world have been studying these viruses—including those isolated from bats—since SARS1 emerged in 2002. In the US, Australia, Hong Kong, Singapore, the UK, the Netherlands, Japan, France, Canada, and so on.
Read 20 tweets
May 23
This is great news, as more testing is urgently needed, but there are some caveats.

Wastewater data can be difficult to interpret. It can be especially difficult to identify the source and won’t catch anything not connected to municipal sewage systems (many farms are not).
Because there is no data indicating widespread human infection, spikes of H5 in wastewater could indicate dumping of infected milk, birds or other animals defecating into sewersheds, etc. Unlike other environmental samples, the host can be very difficult to identify.
Host sequences are completely disentangled in from viral sequences in wastewater, so there’s no way to figure out where a strong H5 signal is coming from with the WW sequences alone. If there’s an obvious source (affected dairy dumping tanks of milk) that might explain a spike.
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