🧵Minors cannot consent to receiving puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones, which pose the risk of rendering them infertile and with lifelong sexual dysfunction. They are too young to be able to predict their future fertility desires or even to know how an orgasm feels and to be able to weigh those future needs against their desire to treat their current gender dysphoria. Only their parents or guardians may consent on their behalf. Therefore adults must decide on behalf of children whether the presumed benefits of this treatment outweigh the risks, known and unknown. These decisions must be made even with an evidence base that can provide no clear conclusions as to the actual benefits of treatment, according to a half-dozen systematic literature reviews—the gold standard of scientific evidence. Also, the one study that directly assessed whether these treatments were tied to a difference in the suicide death rate found they were not. Therefore the claim that the treatments are a matter of life and death is not evidence-based. @KristopherWells makes such a claim despite being an academic who is well versed in evidence-based-medicine principles. @tylerblack32
Here is Marci Bowers, the president of @WPATH, describing how natal males with gender dysphoria who under go pubertal suppression and estrogen treatment have no sexual function whatsoever. This child was going in for a vaginoplasty and didn’t even know what an orgasm was. alabamaag.gov/wp-content/upl…
Tyler Black, however, says that “Parents do not have absolute rights” when their kid wants gender-transition treatment. He dismisses various qualms about such treatment, such as the fact that its efficacy is unknown. And he makes a false comparison to cancer care, neglecting to note that absent treatment, cancer is typically certifiably fatal; whereas the same cannot be said about pediatric gender dysphoria. There is considerable evidence, in fact, that most minors with GD will grow out of it. Also, cancer surgery, such as an orchiectomy (testicular cancer does occur in teenage boys), removes a part of the body that is diseased. Gender-transition surgery removes a healthy part of the body that might have been used for a specific purpose if left in place (eg: sexual reproduction, breastfeeding). Lastly, saying that “Parents do not have the right to do whatever they want to kids” is moot when parents are arguing *against* doing something to their child and *for* leaving their child’s body alone to experience its own endogenous puberty.
@wpath New Evidence Challenges Institutionalized Belief That Transgender Teens Become Transgender Adults, Undermining Core Defense of Medical Gender Transitions for Minors nysun.com/article/new-ev…
@wpath None of the examples that Black provides in this thread are fair comparisons to gender-transition treatment for minors. And yet he concludes the thread suggesting that he’s just proven that minors have the capacity to consent to such treatment. He absolutely has not.
@TylerBlack32 is insinuating that either doctors or the state have the right to overrule parents who object to their child’s wish to undergo a gender-transition treatment. This poses the question of how these external authority figures can be certain they know better than the parents what is best for their child. Based on what research? We have established that the efficacy of this treatment remains unknown and that the known risks, saying nothing of the unknown risks, are severe. So how is this dynamic so exceptional that outside forces may be permitted to overrule the parents and put a child under a medical treatment that has very intense, irreversible, lifelong impacts?
Dr. @TylerBlack32's scenario in which parents' refusal to consent to gender-transition treatment for children is overruled by an outside authority is, in fact, supported by the American Academy of Pediatrics. After acknowledging what Dr. Black does not, that parental or guardian consent is required for such treatment, the @AmerAcadPeds then strongly suggests that pediatricians should look into having the state seize control of the child in question if the parents refuse to consent to a medical gender transition.
This screen shot is from the AAP's 2018 policy statement on gender-affirming care, which is thus far the subject of a detransitioner lawsuit and will likely soon be the subject of a lawsuit from Republican attorneys general, who suggested in a recent letter to the AAP that it violates consumer protection laws. publications.aap.org/pediatrics/art…
@tylerblack32 WPATH President Marci Bowers acknowledges that gender transition treatment can destroy the capacity for natal males to have an orgasm. @tylerblack32 insists that parents cannot always be trusted should they deny consent for such treatment.
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NEWS: ABC Pulls ‘Jimmy Kimmel Live!’ Indefinitely After Host’s Charlie Kirk Comments
Disney’s ABC said it would take Jimmy Kimmel‘s popular late-night show off its schedule “indefinitely” after one of the biggest owners of TV stations in the U.S., Nexstar Media, said it would pre-empt airings of the program following remarks the host made about the killing of conservative activist Charlie Kirk.
In his monologue Monday night , Kimmel said that the “MAGA gang” was trying to score political points off Kirk’s murder. Kirk, a prominent conservative activist, was shot and killed Sept. 10 at a debate at Utah Valley University. Three days later, authorities announced they had arrested the suspected shooter.
“We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang trying to characterize this kid who killed Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them,” Kimmel said.
Nexstar said Wednesday that its “owned and partner television stations affiliated with the ABC Television Network will preempt “Jimmy Kimmel Live!” for the foreseeable future, beginning with tonight’s show.” The company said it “strongly objects to recent comments made by Mr. Kimmel concerning the killing of Charlie Kirk and will replace the show with other programming in its ABC-affiliated markets.”
I would very much like to know whether the unnamed source got cold feet and demanded a retraction of his quote (and if so, why), or if his words and his capacity to recall a time from about six or seven years ago were somehow misrepresented in the first place.
WaPo reports:
Xander Luke, another high school classmate, said he remembers Tyler Robinson being smart, funny and active online, trafficking in silly memes and jokes.
They would talk politics, Luke said, and discuss their “frustration with the system,” particularly feeling let down by the two major political parties. Robinson did not appear to like “hateful people” and “people who would talk down” to others, said Luke, 22.
I report for @UnHerd on the tangled and tortured case of Gordon Guyatt, the towering figure of evidence-based medicine who has caved to transgender-activist pressure and thrown under the bus the funder of his systematic reviews of pediatric gender-transition treatment, @SEGM_EBM. He and his colleagues also contradicted their own research findings by adopting activist language touting the benefits of these interventions as “medically necessary.”
My reporting plumbs the depths of the internal tensions at McMaster University, where Guyatt is a star professor, over the mounting activist pressure. I spoke with one of the authors of the review papers, who was sharply critical of Guyatt’s decision to take sides on how his work should be used in the policy arena. This source shared with me internal emails diagramming the thought process of Guyatt and one of his key McMaster colleagues as they tried to quell the furor over their commissioned work for SEGM.
I also report on how Guyatt’s team is seeking to sink or at least divorce themselves from two other systematic reviews about youth gender medicine, and also kill an analysis of @WPATH’s trans care guidelines.
Dr. Steven Montante, a plastic surgeon in Richmond, Va., was among the four review-paper coauthors who didn’t sign the statement. “I don’t necessarily agree that he has the authority to dictate” how his work is used, he said of Guyatt. “To be so prescriptive waters down the notion of why we do these systematic reviews, and the notion of evidence-based medicine. There should be some level of detachment.”
“Why didn’t the institution defend the science?” said Dr. Paul Garner, an emeritus professor of evidence synthesis in global health at Liverpool School of Tropical Medicine. “I see this is an institutional failure.” He added: “This is obviously a toxic ideological area.”
I interviewed a number of the first monkeypox (mpox) cases in 2022. They were largely affluent gay men who enjoyed traveling around the world and going to sex parties. I am not certain how stigma is connected to such a pastime.
During the outbreak, the CDC downplayed how central sex between men was to driving the outbreak. Dr. Daskalakis in particular invariably led with the exceptions to the rule of who was at risk, such as by uttering the misleading slogan, “Anybody can get monkeypox.” I once challenged him on this fact during a press call in August 2022 and asked why he wasn’t instead being direct and clear that gay men were overwhelmingly the ones at risk. He responded by saying he thought he and the CDC were doing a fantastic job.
Meanwhile, I was constantly getting DMs from parents who were scared to send their kids back to school or to daycare, despite the fact that their children were literally at greater risk of being struck by lightning than getting mpox.
Many people were angry that summer that some of the same people who insisted on masking children or keeping everyone at home during Covid were now insisting that gay men should not be asked to take a break from sex with multiple partners. It is evident that this contradiction eroded trust in public health, as you can see here from what @steveguest is saying:
I cannot begin to tell you how much rage people directed at me for simply saying gay men should modify their sexual behaviors to lower their risk of monkeypox. I broke a cardinal gay sin: Never tell a gay man to reel in his sex life. washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/…
Nearly 40 percent of students at Brown University identify as something other than straight. The growth has been largely among students identifying as bisexual or as queer, pansexual, asexual or questioning. There has been little growth in gay identity.
Mother Jones is re-upping this article from January. The study in question found that, among minors with private health insurance, by age 17, about 1 in 1,000 were on cross-sex hormones during 2018 to 2023. The rate was higher than that for natal girls and was likely higher overall by 2023.
One way of reporting this news is to simply provide readers with the figures and let them decide whether they represent a little or a lot. open.substack.com/pub/benryan/p/…
Puberty blockers themselves, multiple studies have found, are not actually associated with any change in mental health metrics.