Thread by @NC5PhilWilliams

TIME TO BRING THE RECEIPTS: Podcaster C.Jay Engel (@contramordor) appeared on a local YouTube show on Friday to dispute my reporting regarding the white Christian nationalists moving into Tennessee.🧵Thread on what he claimed vs. what he has really said. 🧵1/

First of all, if you missed my initial report that's being discussed, watch here. 🧵2/

https://x.com/NC5PhilWilliams/status/1858912182236574182

Engel was asked about his desire to return America back to the way it was before the civil rights movement. He claims he just wants to find a different way to get there! 🧵3/

Here is Engel reacting to a photo of an all-White diner, with the quote: "The 1960s ruined everything." 🧵4/

Here is Engel saying that he wants "to return America to how it was before the civil rights movement" - with no qualification about finding a different want to get to racial harmony. 🧵5/

Here is Engel bemoaning a person of color dressed up for St. Patrick's Day as "the great replacement." 🧵6/

Engel's idea of what it means to be "an actual country with an actual culture" is usually expressed in Norman Rockwell pics of White people. 🧵7/

Here, Engel puts civil rights icon Martin Luther King on the enemy side of the "Friend-Enemy distinction." 🧵8/

Here, Engel argues that the expansion of suffrage - the right to vote - "correlated with the loss of our old liberties and ways of life." 🧵9/

Back to the call-in, Engel says he would return civil rights to the states and leave it up to them to decide the fates of people of color. 🧵10/

Also, remember Engel kicked off Black History Month this year by celebrating the accomplishments of a white supremacist who advocated forced birth control for people of color.🧵11/

Engel (@contramordor) was also asked if he and his Christian nationalist friends would discriminate (including against LGBTQ people) in hiring when they open businesses in Jackson County. “No, I don’t plan on discriminating, but….” 🧵12/

@contramordor This is @contramordor - who told Jackson County that he didn't "have any plans to discriminate at all - that not really my style." Here, he posts: "Gay people need to work on not being gay and then we can employ them. Pretty simple." 🧵13/

@contramordor Here is Engel discussing why he was yucking it up with Andrew Isker about the death of 14-year-old Emmett Till. Pay close attention to his explanation. 🧵14/

Engel claims, if you go back and listen to the original podcast, he and Isker made it clear that Till's lynching was an "outrage" and had "no role in a just society." My transcript has no such wording. I welcome @contramordor to provide a time code. 🧵15/ youtube.com/live/nclv2G6wV…

More importantly, this is the real context for their friend's comment, in which he seems to be saying the murder of young Emmett Till was unimportant to him. 🧵16/

And here is Engel's Christian Nationalist podcast buddy @BonifaceOption bemoaning the fact that he cannot question the story around Emmett Till's murder - not saying it was an "outrage." 🧵17/

Also, here is Engel making a similar "joke" about George Floyd. 🧵18/

Engel also denied my reporting that he has advocated deporting immigrants who are already citizens. Listen closely, then read what follows... 🧵18/

MORE RECEIPTS: In his explanation of his beliefs in America being for "Heritage Americans," Engle stated that "peoples such as Indians, or South East Asians or Ecuadorians or immigrated Africans are the least capable of fitting in and should be sent home immediately." 🧵19/

MORE RECEIPTS: Less than three months ago, Engel was citing the "Great Replacement" and calling for "retroactive application of new rules" by a "Heroic figure." 🧵20/

MORE RECEIPTS: And here is Engel calling for the U.S. to "retroactively reverse the citizenship status" of certain ethnic immigrants allowed into the U.S. since 1965. 🧵21

And then there are Engel’s thoughts about women! 🧵22/

Engel: "I detest the specific impact of college educated white women on the culture of the world around me." 🧵23/

This speaks for itself. 🧵24/

Check out his reply. 🧵25/

Then, there are his claims about what he believes about women voting! 🧵26/

Engel: "Women were happier and lived more fulfilling lives before they got the vote." 🧵27/

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Like other Christian Nationalists, Engel favors giving households the right to vote and the husbands would decide how their households vote. 🧵29/

Finally, Engel falsely claims that I have dragged his “small family … through the mud” and labeled them as Nazis. I never even mentioned that he has a family. 🧵30/

The issue that I raised - and the issues that I posed to him - is that his and Isker’s rhetoric sounds much like the rhetoric we have heard from neo-Nazis: “They hate White men, deport every Mexican.” 🧵31/

My questions to him: 🧵32/

And his response: 33/33

P.S. The full YouTube video can be found here:
youtube.com/live/xqd0rN-Wy…

Engel showing he does not understand the George Floyd case.

https://x.com/contramordor/status/1861184711776739721

"The full report concludes Floyd died from 'cardiopulmonary arrest,' not an overdose." apnews.com/article/fact-c…

No, George Floyd court documents don't prove he died of drug overdose usatoday.com/story/news/fac…

George Floyd died from lack of oxygen, not fentanyl, says expert bbc.com/news/world-us-…

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