Thread by @LouisvilleGun

There's been a bunch of misinformation about today's murder of United Healthcare's CEO. I'm going to debunk some of the firearms nonsense that's been stated.

Myth 1: The pistol was a Welrod / B&T Station 6!

Categorically false.

Here is a full length video of the shooting. You can see the shooter having to manually clear casings that failed to eject and you can see smoke coming from the breech of the pistol when it is fired. This goes against the claim that this is a Welrod type pistol.

The Welrod pistol uses a bolt action mechanism that requires a twist and pull action to open and close the breech. In this photo you can see how the rear of the pistol must be twisted and pulled out to chamber a new round

Contrast that to this video that I've slowed and zoomed. You can clearly see the slide attempting (and failing) to cycle after the shot, along with a puff of smoke from the cartridge being fired. The Welrod style's breech remains closed until manually opened.

Myth 2: The shooter was using subsonic ammunition bc he was a professional!

Also false. The shooter was firing 9mm. Photos of the live rounds found at the scene shows ordinary low weight FMJ ammunition, not heavier self defense loads like 147gr HST or similar.

Myth 3: he purposely used subsonic rounds to keep the gun from cycling (or other idiocy).

False. The failure to eject malfunction was likely caused because he used a silencer without a Nielsen Device. Purpose built handgun silencers have piston / booster assemblies for this.

The additional mass of a silencer on a Browning style barrel prevents the firearm from cycling properly. The booster gives a bit more oomf to the recoil. The presence of live ammunition at the crime scene is an indicator that the firearm was malfunctioning instead of working as intended.

By all means please explain why he'd choose subsonic bullets then not use a silencer with a booster, causing multiple malfunctions that required failure to eject clearing & left live rounds on the scene.

https://x.com/MultigunFun/status/1864456279973851396

If the firearm is recovered or they are able to track down the purchases, I'm guessing we're going to see that this is probably a home made silencer, either 3d printed, machined from a solvent trap, or similar.

Certain 9mm silencers are made so that they can be used on pistol caliber carbines or "braced" pistols like AR-9s; to do so the Nielsen device would have to be removed (if present).

Likewise it is also possible that the silencer was stolen then put onto the host weapon. This seems highly unlikely, but it is possible.

My highest probability guess? Dude didn't know what he was doing past "buy silencer, problem solved" and though direct attaching would be enough.

People in the replies:
YOU DON'T KNOW HE WASN'T USING SUBSONIC

True, I don't know. Everyone who claimed he was also doesn't know that, so without evidence those claims can be dismissed.

What we do know is that he used regular FMJ ammo per the pictures. If you are deliberately using subs, why not buy ammo that's better than FMJ to ensure it does the job? Why not use ammo that expands?

Makes no sense.

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