👇🧵MAKING SENSE #410 - The Whole Catastrophe
To start, I am not an expert. I never plan to be an expert, & I plan to pontificate about things that experts do not exist for. You have been warned!
Also, unfettered conversation may follow.🧵👇
credit for image: @mmeJen
To start, I am not an expert. I never plan to be an expert, & I plan to pontificate about things that experts do not exist for. You have been warned!
Also, unfettered conversation may follow.🧵👇
credit for image: @mmeJen
0:00
Intro...
For anyone who doesn't use the internet, check JRE#2303
They kick things off. Sam has a smug look that says he is really looking forward to talking down to Rogan and Smith.
Intro...
For anyone who doesn't use the internet, check JRE#2303
They kick things off. Sam has a smug look that says he is really looking forward to talking down to Rogan and Smith.
1:38
"Side-kick Dave"
-Sam
Rogan chirped in a few times, but I don't understand how Dave lands the side-kick title.
One could think of "podcastistan"s leader to be Rogan, so if their framework is war against this group, then the context makes more sense.
"Side-kick Dave"
-Sam
Rogan chirped in a few times, but I don't understand how Dave lands the side-kick title.
One could think of "podcastistan"s leader to be Rogan, so if their framework is war against this group, then the context makes more sense.
5:20
"he hadn't really had anyone on who had my views about the Russia/Ukraine conflict or indeed about the Israel/Hamas conflict"
There is a great thread debunking this claim he keeps making here:
"he hadn't really had anyone on who had my views about the Russia/Ukraine conflict or indeed about the Israel/Hamas conflict"
There is a great thread debunking this claim he keeps making here:
https://x.com/alexandrosM/status/1913487909371695563
7:40
He claims Dave isn't funny. I invite anyone to go watch "30 Minutes with Dave Smith" on YouTube & not laugh.
Also, isn't your whole claim that Dave Smith can't comment on Israel because he isn't an expert and because he is a comedian?
How dare you comment on comedy...🤡
He claims Dave isn't funny. I invite anyone to go watch "30 Minutes with Dave Smith" on YouTube & not laugh.
Also, isn't your whole claim that Dave Smith can't comment on Israel because he isn't an expert and because he is a comedian?
How dare you comment on comedy...🤡
9:00
Arguing from authority?
"It's clear to me you weren't doing that!"
-Sam
Speak to everyone that watched the episode. Even Gad Saad called this out publicly in the url below... who is hosting Douglas Murray today by chance.
Arguing from authority?
"It's clear to me you weren't doing that!"
-Sam
Speak to everyone that watched the episode. Even Gad Saad called this out publicly in the url below... who is hosting Douglas Murray today by chance.
https://x.com/MLiamMcCollum/status/1911263449058849131
12:40
Sam explains the MMA story that he copied from Douglas in a previous podcast as if Douglas has not heard it before.
"Joe would shut it down if someone tried to talk about MMA like an expert when they were not."
Sam explains the MMA story that he copied from Douglas in a previous podcast as if Douglas has not heard it before.
"Joe would shut it down if someone tried to talk about MMA like an expert when they were not."
17:45
Both of them chuckle at the concept of the CIA being involved with the JFK assassination.
That's why there still exist redacted government documents about them. I'm sure Pam Bondi will keep anything "important for national security" that way.
Both of them chuckle at the concept of the CIA being involved with the JFK assassination.
That's why there still exist redacted government documents about them. I'm sure Pam Bondi will keep anything "important for national security" that way.
21:00
They spend a while going through the lived experience argument. They attack @ComicDaveSmith here in a way I have no respect for. I recommend anyone watch Murray vs. Murray in the link after this clip:
They spend a while going through the lived experience argument. They attack @ComicDaveSmith here in a way I have no respect for. I recommend anyone watch Murray vs. Murray in the link after this clip:
https://x.com/GoodAMLiberty/status/1911281095020003365
So many moments that annoy me... too many to cover.
26:20 - Infers you can't be a generalist with expertise
27:20 - Assuming comedians aren't experts in other things
28:30 - Making it seem like others think Free Speech is perfect. Most think it's the best trade off.
31:00 - Talking about the algorithm with disdain ignoring that much of the algorithm is just what people want to spend their time doing.
31:30 - Strawmannirg and lying about Darryl Cooper
39:00 - Lee Harvey Oswald killed JFK is their thought. ... but he was still involved with the CIA.
40:00 - Douglas admits he would run from a rogue government instead of fight for his homeland
41:40 - They state that Rogan does believe we went to the moon. I'm not quite sure how strongly his opinions are around that though.
43:30 - They state Dave only believes Hamas exists because he thinks Palestinians are dehumanized by Israel. That feels like it's not the full reason and a useful setup for a straw man.
26:20 - Infers you can't be a generalist with expertise
27:20 - Assuming comedians aren't experts in other things
28:30 - Making it seem like others think Free Speech is perfect. Most think it's the best trade off.
31:00 - Talking about the algorithm with disdain ignoring that much of the algorithm is just what people want to spend their time doing.
31:30 - Strawmannirg and lying about Darryl Cooper
39:00 - Lee Harvey Oswald killed JFK is their thought. ... but he was still involved with the CIA.
40:00 - Douglas admits he would run from a rogue government instead of fight for his homeland
41:40 - They state that Rogan does believe we went to the moon. I'm not quite sure how strongly his opinions are around that though.
43:30 - They state Dave only believes Hamas exists because he thinks Palestinians are dehumanized by Israel. That feels like it's not the full reason and a useful setup for a straw man.
@ComicDaveSmith 51:20
"Only one side takes hostages"
52:00
"Only one side murders people when they try to flee for safety"
I think both sides might point fingers at the other side if this is the claim.
"Only one side takes hostages"
52:00
"Only one side murders people when they try to flee for safety"
I think both sides might point fingers at the other side if this is the claim.
The previous video was at 55:35
94:00
Murray makes it clear he isn't one to understand audience metrics and much about his own audiences generalized beliefs.
94:00
Murray makes it clear he isn't one to understand audience metrics and much about his own audiences generalized beliefs.
110:00
"The Double Sieg Heil which was not a Sieg Heil"
"I don't believe it was a Sieg Heil except he's played footsie with genuine antisemites."
-Sam
"Like who by the way?"
-Douglas
"The kinds of people who are.... uhmmmmm...... twitter..... the great replacement theory"
"The Double Sieg Heil which was not a Sieg Heil"
"I don't believe it was a Sieg Heil except he's played footsie with genuine antisemites."
-Sam
"Like who by the way?"
-Douglas
"The kinds of people who are.... uhmmmmm...... twitter..... the great replacement theory"
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