Thread by @sherifhanna

@YariLogos Thanks for expressing willingness to engage in civil dialogue. Though X makes it hard to convey a coherent chain of thought, we can try.

@YariLogos Honestly the Orthodox position is very simple: as Cyril said, in the incarnation the simple hypostasis of the Logos united with himself a composite hypostasis of concretly existing human flesh and soul.

The result is one concretely existing composite hypostasis.

@YariLogos Because it's a composition, not a fusion, his body still exists as flesh, his soul still exists as a human soul, and his divine hypostasis still remains unchanged. That's why he's consubstantial with us and consubstantial with the Father, because none of the constituents changes.

@YariLogos Then the question is asked: what is the nature of concretly existing entity, of Jesus Christ, who's the result of the composition? And the answer is: incarnate God.

This doesn't deny that the flesh is still flesh nor that the Logos is still the Logos.

@YariLogos In the same way you one would characterize the nature of Peter or Paul. "What's his nature?' and the answer is one: "man". Does answering that deny that this one man is composed of body and soul, or that the soul doesn't turn into flesh nor the other way around? Not at all.

@YariLogos We are baffled as to what the objection is to the above. It's rather straightforward, and Cyril and the other fathers taught the body/soul duality as the model by which to understand the composition of two things of unlike natures into one concrete entity of one nature.

@YariLogos But only the composed "man" is called "man". Neither body nor soul alone are man, but they are constituents of a man. Likewise only the incarnate God who was born, died for us, and rose. That's why we're so emphatic about the unity of Christ—otherwise our salvation is meaningless

@YariLogos If I ask you: "What is the nature of this?" Would you say "diamond and metal" or would you say "diamond ring"? Normally I'd expect the latter.

@YariLogos Does this diamond ring conduct electricity? Can it cut through glass? I can answer "yes" to both those question even though it's the metal constituent of the ring that conducts electricity, and even though it's the diamond stone at the top of the ring that cuts the glass.

@YariLogos But in both cases what's under consideration is the totality of the composed object, which has one nature: diamond ring.

Does that help?

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