🧵 Your claim that Muslims didn’t study history as a discipline is patently false, and so are your claims about Ibn Khaldūn. Let’s deal with them:
On top of the fact that Islāmic history contains far more primary source material than western history, source scrutiny was a discipline studied in Islāmic history with plenty of books being written on the topic.
The science of ḥadīth involves (but is not limited to) study of various terminologies, studies of the narrators of historical events, studies of the chains to not only detect the obvious weaknesses but also anomalies and hidden defects.
Some examples of books written on this complex science:
- Al-Muqaddimah by Ibn al-Ṣalāḥ al-Shahrazūrī (1181–1245 AD), a book that defines 65 types of ḥadīth (e.g., ṣaḥīḥ, ḍaʿīf, mutawātir) and their conditions.
- Tadrīb al-Rāwī Fī Sharḥ Taqrīb al-Nawawī (Training the Narrator in Explaining al-Nawawī’s Taqrīb) by al-Suyūṭī (1445–1505 AD)
- Fath al-Mughīth bi-Sharḥ Alfiyyat al-Ḥadīth (The Key to Understanding the Alfiyyah of Ḥadīth) by al-Sakhāwī (1428–1497), a commentary on Zayn al-Dīn al-ʿIrāqī’s Alfiyyah (1,000-line poem on ḥadīth sciences)
- Al-Kifāyah Fī ʿIlm al-Riwāyah (Sufficiency in the Science of Narration) al-Khaṭīb al-Baghdādī (1002–1071 AD)
Some books detailing the biographies and reliabilities of narrators:
- Al-Tārīkh al-Kabīr (The Great History) by al-Bukhārī (810-870 AD)
- Al-Jarḥ wal-Taʾdīl (Criticism and Appraisal) by Ibn Abī Ḥātim al-Rāzī (854-938 AD)
- Al-Kāmil Fī Ḍuʿafāʾ al-Rijāl (The Complete [Work] of Weak Narrators) Ibn ʿAdī (890-976 AD)
- Al-ʿIlal al-Wāridah Fī Aḥādīth al-Nubuwwah (The Defects Found in the Prophetic Ḥadīths) by al-Dāraquṭnī (918-995 AD)
“Islamic civilization did have historiography, but it never became a systematic science of a subject of formal study.”
Putting aside all the books I’ve already shown here, let’s see what the European scholars said about Islāmic historiography shall we?
Take William Montgomery Watt, an award winning Scottish historian in his book The Influence of Islam On Medieval Europe:
❝Anecdotes about Muhammad’s sayings and doings—technically known as ‘traditions’ (hadith)—were regarded as normative and were carefully preserved and handled. Indeed, the study of traditions became one of the major disciplines in Islamic higher education, with various subordinate disciplines attached to it, such as the study of the biographies of the scholars responsible for handling the anecdotes, and the study of the career of Muhammad. Not far removed from these was the study of the history and geography of the Islamic lands.❞ (p. 11)
Austrian Orientalist Alois Sprenger (1813-1893 AD) said in his book Das Leben und die Lehre des Mohammad (The Life and Teachings of Muḥammad):
❝Even in and of itself, Islām is therefore one of the greatest historical phenomena. In addition, it contains elements that should particularly attract the attention of the philosopher of history. It is the only world religion about whose origin we possess reliable reports, despite its age.❞
❝In distinguishing the historical core from poetic embellishment, I prefer to adhere to the rules of historical criticism established by the Muslim theologians. Mr. Muir reproached me for this in the Calcutta Review and put forward his own canons. Much as I respect his opinion, I still cannot separate myself from this habit. In their main features, the rules of the Muslims are quite reasonable…❞
❝The isnād (chain of narration) is an extremely valuable aid for the criticism of these traditions, and the indication of the isnād must not be neglected.❞
David Samuel Margoliouth said in his book Lectures on Arabic historians delivered before the University of Calcutta February 1929:
❝But though the theory of the isnād (chain of narration) has occasioned endless trouble, owing to the inquiries which have to be made into the trustworthiness of each transmitter, and the fabrication of traditions was a familiar and at times easily tolerated practice, its value in making for accuracy cannot be questioned, and the Muslims are justified in taking pride in their science of tradition.❞ (p. 20)
French Orientalist Claude Cahen said:
❝The Arabic historiography of the medieval Islamic world is richer than that of both Christendoms, Eastern and Western, in both Greek and Latin and all the vernaculars, combined.❞ (Bernard Lewis, Proceedings of the American Philosophical Society p. 219)
R. Stephen Humphreys said in his book Islamic History: A Framework for Inquiry:
❝Islamists like to complain about the state of their sources, but in fact what they have is extraordinarily rich and varied, far surpassing the miserable fragments which challenge the student of the late Roman Empire or early medieval Europe.❞ (p. 25)
Professor Bertold Spuler in his book Islam & Western Historiography:
❝A thoroughly Christian picture of history had been drawn by the meager Western European chronicles of the early Middle Ages, which were far inferior to contemporary Islamic ones…❞ (p. 426)
“This quote does not say Islamic civilization produced any innovation which influenced Europeans”
So would Keith perhaps would like to explain the European academics who pointed out the importance of Islāmic civilisational progress in its influence for European advancement?
Going back to William Montgomery Watt, who stated the following in his book The Influence of Islam On Medieval Europe:
❝However, we Europeans have a blind spot for our cultural indebtedness to Islam. We sometimes belittle the extent and importance of Islamic influence in our heritage, and sometimes overlook it altogether.❞ (p. 2)
❝When one becomes aware of the full extent of Arab experimentation, Arab thinking, and Arab writing, one sees that without the Arabs European science and philosophy would not have developed when they did. The Arabs were no mere transmitters of Greek thought, but genuine bearers who both kept alive the disciplines they had been taught and extended their range. When about 1100 Europeans became seriously interested in the science and philosophy of their Saracen enemies, these disciplines were at their zenith; and the Europeans had to learn all they could from the Arabs before they themselves could make further advances.❞ (p . 43)
Frederick Hamilton said in Speeches delivered in India, 1884-1888:
❝ When I remember that it is to Mussulman science, to Mussulman art, and to Mussulman literature that Europe has been in a great measure indebted for its extrication from the darkness of the Middle Ages…❞ (p. 24)
Arthur Glyn Leonard said in his book Islam: Her Moral and Spiritual Value:
❝Do not we, who now consider ourselves on the topmost pinnacle ever reached by culture and civilization, recognize that, had it not been for the high culture, the civilization and intellectual, as the social splendors of the Arabs and soundness of their system, Europe would to this day have remained sunk in the darkness of ignorance?❞ (p. 142)
Richard William Southern in his book Western Views of Islam in the Middle Ages:
❝Within 400 years of its foundation, Islam had run through phases of intellectual growth which the West achieved only in the course of a much longer development. So much has been lost that it is impossible to speak with any exactness, but it is certain that the Islamic countries produced a greater bulk and variety of learned and scientific works in the ninth, tenth, and eleventh centuries than medieval Christendom produced before the fourteenth century.❞ (p. 8)
❝Islam luxuriated in abundance, while the West was left with the Church Fathers, the classical and postclassical poets, the Latin schoolmasters—works of impressive solidity but not, at least in the early Middle Ages, wildly exciting. A comparison of the literary catalogs of the West with the lists of books available to Muslim scholars makes a painful impression on a Western mind, and the contrast came as a bombshell to the Latin scholars of the twelfth century, who first had their eyes opened to the difference.❞ (p. 9)
Southern stated the following when describing the library of the Sulṭān of Bukhārā (Modern-day Uzbekistan):
❝It was contained in many rooms, each piled with chests of books and each devoted to a single subject—language and poetry, law, logic, medicine, and so on—with a catalogue from which it was possible to get a general view of the ancient writers on each science. There was nothing similar to this; certainly no layman had anything approaching it in the West until the end of the Middle Ages.❞ (p. 11)
Moving onto Keith Woods’ claims about Ibn Khaldūn:
“The critical attitude he took to sources was not replicated.”
Ibn Khaldūn’s area of expertise was political theory, not source scrutiny and authenticity grading.
Source criticism was a codified science with scholars far stronger than Ibn Khaldūn in its discipline existing both before and after his time.
Ibn Khaldūn’s notoriety came from his ability to observe political events and construct theories based on them, pertaining to the cycles societies go through and the details surrounding them.
On the other hand, Ibn Khaldūn’s takes on source scrutiny earned him a wave of criticism, with one example being from the Egyptian ḥadīth expert Shaykh Aḥmad Shākir who said the following:
❝As for Ibn Khaldūn, he spoke on a matter in which he had no knowledge, and he ventured into fields whose people he did not belong to. He was overcome by his preoccupation with politics, state affairs, and serving the kings and princes whom he used to serve. So he imagined that the matter of the Mahdī was a Shīʿī belief — or perhaps he was led to think that by his own mind — and thus he wrote in his famous Muqaddimah a long section entitled: ‘A Section on the Matter of the Fāṭimī and What People Say Concerning Him, and Lifting the Veil on That Matter.’ In that section, he fell into astonishing confusion and made clear, obvious mistakes.❞
📚 (Musnad al-Imām Aḥmad 3/492)
“But his work was an isolated intellectual achievement which did not produce a school of thought or replicable theoretical framework. His work was largely ignored…”
Again, not true in the slightest. Other historians who came after Ibn Khaldūn quote him and his book by name, praising his expertise as a historian and even adopt his political theories into their own books.
Take for example Ibn Khaldūn’s direct student Taqī al-Dīn al-Maqrīzī (1364-1442 AD), someone who authored a multitude of historical works such as:
- Al-Mawāʿiẓ wa al-Iʿtibār bi-Dhikr al-Khiṭaṭ wal-Āthār (Admonitions and Lessons by Mention of Districts and Monuments)
- Al-Sulūk li-Maʿrifat Duwal al-Mulūk (The Path to Knowing the Dynasties of the Kings)
- Ighāthatu al-Ummah bi-Kashf al-Ghummah (Aid to the Ummah by Lifting the Calamity)
- Iʿtiʿāẓ al-Ḥunafāʾ bi-Akhbār al-Aʾimmah al-Fāṭimiyyīn al-Khulafāʾ (The Admonition of the Upright by the Accounts of the Fāṭimid Imāms, the Caliphs)
It would take too long to cover all the aspects of Khaldūnian theory that al-Maqrīzī incorporates in his various books, so here’s one article in English for those who want to look into the matter further.
Jo Van Steenbergen – a professor of Arabic and Islamic Studies at Ghent University (Belgium) – published an article titled al-Maqrīzī's History of the Ḥajj (al-Dhahab al-Masbūk) and Khaldūnian Narrative Construction:
❝It has been fairly well established by now that the author of al-Dhahab al-Masbūk, al-Maqrīzī, was not only well acquainted with, but also deeply impressed and influenced by the North-African scholar and historian of towering reputation, ʿAbd al-Raḥman Ibn Khaldūn.❞
• Steenbergen further states:
❝Among the substantial list of al-Maqrīzī’s extant historiographical writings, a few have indeed been the object of a more recent reappraisal from the perspective of Ibn Khaldūn’s legacy. In the Mamlūk Studies Review volume that was entirely dedicated to al-Maqrīzī, published in 2003, Anne Broadbridge thus analysed two of al-Maqrīzī’s shorter economic treatises Ighāthat al-Umma, published around 1405 and one of al-Maqrīzī’s earliest writings, and Shudhūr al-ʿUqūd, written at an unspecified date between 1416 and 1421. She explains highly convincingly how both were textual repositories of royal advice that were organised around a particular world view, and how that view demonstrates obvious parallels with Ibn Khaldūn’s reappropriation of the ancient notion of the interdependence between royal authority, justice and social order.❞
Here are some examples of scholars who praised Ibn Khaldūn’s book and his expertise on history:
• Al-Maqrīzī said about Ibn Khaldūn’s book:
❝Nothing like it has ever been produced, and it is indeed rare for a diligent seeker to attain its equal, for it is the quintessence of knowledge and sciences, and the product of sound minds and understanding. It leads one to grasp the true nature of things, to know the reality of events and reports, to describe the state of existence, and to inform of the origin of every existent — in a style more splendid than precious pearls, and more delicate than water upon which the breeze has passed.❞
• Ibn ʿAmmār, one of his students, wrote a biography of him and said:
❝Among his works—apart from his prose and poetic compositions, which are like magic—is the great history entitled al-ʿIbar Fī Tārīkh al-Mulūk wal-Umam wal-Barbar, whose Muqaddimah encompasses all branches of knowledge.❞
📚 (Al-Badr al-Ṭāliʾ 1/339)
• Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī (1372-1449 AD) said about Ibn Khaldūn:
❝He authored a great history in seven large volumes, in which his virtues became evident, and he demonstrated his mastery therein. However, he was not fully acquainted with reports in their reality, especially the reports of the East, and this is clear upon inspection of his words… I met him repeatedly and heard from his benefits and from his works, especially in history; he was eloquent, articulate, fluent, and graceful in composition, midway between prose and poetry, along with complete knowledge of matters, especially those pertaining to the affairs of the state. And he wrote for me, in a request, that I should grant authorization to these noble masters and learned leaders, people of merit and excellence, all that they asked of authorization.❞
Algerian historian Aḥmad al-Maqqari (1581-1631 AD) authored an explanation of Ibn Khaldūn’s Muqaddimah, something which clearly contradicts Keith’s claims that the book was ignored by other Muslims.
Here, Ibn al-ʿImād’s praise reflects the post-classical scholarly consensus that Ibn Khaldūn’s innovative approach to historiography – analyzing the rise and fall of civilizations through an empirical, sociological lens – was a monumental contribution, setting his work apart as an enduring masterpiece in the canon of Islāmic historical literature.
• Ibn al-ʿImād al-Ḥanbalī (1623-1679 AD) said about Ibn Khaldūn:
❝He is ʿAbd al-Raḥmān Ibn Muḥammad Ibn Muḥammad Ibn Khaldūn al-Ḥaḍramī al-Ishbīlī, Abū Zayd — the philosopher of Islamic history, the great, meticulous scholar, and one of the rare geniuses of the age in knowledge, culture, learning, and intelligence; the author of al-Tārīkh, from which the Muqaddimah became so famous that such renown has been attained by only a few Islāmic works in all ages, to the point that he was called the author of the Muqaddimah or it was called The Muqaddimah of Ibn Khaldūn, as if he had authored nothing else.❞
📚 (Shadharāt al-Dhahab Fī Akhbār Man Dhahab 1/71)
As for the existence of a “Khaldūnian school” within the Islāmic world, I present the following:
One of the professors at Istanbul University — Professor Fındıkzade Ziyāʾ al-Dīn Fakhrī — presented a report on this subject at the 22nd Congress of Orientalists held in 1951. He titled it in French: L’École Ibn-Khaldounienne en Turquie — that is: The Ibn Khaldūnian School in Turkey.
He later published a Turkish translation of the report under the title: Ibn Khaldūn in the History of Turkish Thought.
He listed the names of Ottoman authors and historians who were influenced by Ibn Khaldūn, describing them as “Ibn Khaldūnians”, and termed their school of thought: “Ibn Khaldūnianism” (Ibn Khaldūnīyah / Ibn Khaldūnizm).
Just so this thread isn’t too long, I will limit the examples to a few.
Ottoman scholar Kâtip Çelebi (Ḥājī Khalīfah, d. 1657) wrote his bibliographical encyclopedia Kashf al-Ẓunūn in Arabic, drawing on Ibn Khaldūn’s ideas.
When Kâtip Çelebi surveys books of history, he mentions Ibn Khaldūn’s history and says:
❝It is great and of immense benefit.❞ (2/202)
In defining the science of history, he closely follows Ibn Khaldūn’s emphasis on extracting lessons from past events. He adds that the benefit of history lies in gaining wisdom from the rise and fall of nations:
❝And the science of history is the knowledge of the conditions of groups, their lands, customs, traditions, professions, genealogies, and deaths… Its subject is the conditions of past individuals, and its benefit lies in drawing lessons (ʿibrah) from those conditions, giving advice through them, and acquiring the faculty of experience by observing the changes of time — in order to guard oneself against the kinds of harms that have been transmitted.❞ (2/190)
Muṣṭafā Naʿīmā (d. 1716), another Ottoman official historian, admired Ibn Khaldūn and prefaced his chronicle with Khaldūnian theory.
He lauds Ibn Khaldūn’s Kitāb al-ʿIbar (specifically its Muqaddimah) as an inexhaustible treasure of wisdom:
❝Especially noteworthy is the history called al-ʿIbar by Ibn Khaldūn al-Maghribī, whose Muqaddimah alone is a book in itself, and a rare treasure filled with the jewels of sciences and the rarities of wisdom. Its author — may God increase his worth — surpassed all historians. His history relates to the circumstances of the Maghrib, yet he incorporated all his knowledge into the Muqaddimah. ❞
Naʿīmā mentions in the introduction to his history Ibn Khaldūn’s theory of the five stages (al-aṭwār al-khamsah), but after explaining the fifth stage, he states:
❝Great men are able to influence this fifth stage and to rescue the social order from decline.❞
The historian Aḥmad Ibn Luṭf Allāh (d. 1702 AD), who was known by the title “Munajjim Bāshī” (Chief Astrologer), was a contemporary of the aforementioned Naʿīmā. He lived in the latter half of the 17th century and died in the year 1702.
He wrote his well-known history, Jāmiʿ al-Duwal, in Arabic, and prefaced it with an introduction inspired by Ibn Khaldūn, in which he also quoted some of Ibn Khaldūn’s phrases verbatim.
For example, when speaking about one of the main causes of error among historians, he said:
❝It is the neglect of the nature of ʿumrān (civilization) and the foundations of human society — as Ibn Khaldūn explained in detail.❞
Finally, I end with this:
ʿAbdullāh Ṣubhī Pasha (1818–1886 AD) put forward attempts to translate Ibn Khaldūn’s al-ʿIbar into Ottoman Turkish, with these examples being called Miftāḥ al-ʿIbar and Taklimat al-ʿIbar respectively.
- Miftāḥ al-ʿIbar was digitalised by the University of Michigan
- The existence of Taklimat al-ʿIbar was pointed out by many sources, with the one below being Muʿjam al-Maṭbūʿāt al-ʿArabiyyah wal-Muʿarrabah (Bibliography of Arabic Printed Works) by Yūsuf Ilīyān Sarkīs
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Fāris al-Ḥammādī tells his followers not to discuss politics, whilst simultaneously making videos justifying normalisation with Israel and the Abraham Accords.
For individuals like this, “don’t discuss politics” is just code for “don’t promote political takes that oppose mine.”
Yesterday Fāris al-Ḥammādī repeated the lie that Ibn Bāz’s fatwā justifies normalising with Israel. It has been corrected, refuted and clarified that Ibn Bāz never justified anything close to it, yet Fāris al-Ḥammādī insists on repeating the lie.
Faris al-Hammadi Lies Against Shaykh Ibn Baz Regarding Israeli Normalisation
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🧵 The overwhelming majority of revivalist traditionalist Islāmic movements have been Wahhābī.
The Wahhābīs have been the front runners at tackling secularism, atheism, feminism, and liberalism.
North Africa, Sub Saharan Africa, the Middle East, the Arabian Peninsula, the Indian Subcontinent; all have witnessed various Islāmic revivals associated with Wahhābism.
Shaykh Muḥammad Amān al-Jāmī assisted the Mujāhidīn in his own homeland of Ethiopia against the Christians during the civil war, he wasn’t an intelligence asset and there is no shred of proof for such a ridiculous accusation.
Shaykh Ibn al-ʿUthaymīn, Shaykh al-Albānī and Shaykh Ibn Bāz have countless fatāwā and recordings encouraging Muslims to support Chechnya, Bosnia, Afghanistan and even Palestine through any possible means including military means.
Shaykh ʿAbd al-Raḥman al-Saʾdī authored 6 books against atheism.
Muftī Muḥammad Ibn Ibrāhīm Āl al-Shaykh ordered funding of 1 million riyals for the printing of Islāmic books in various sciences.
Shaykh Muṭlaq al-Jāsir, Shaykh ʿAbdullāh al-ʿUjayrī and Shaykh Sulṭān al-ʿUmayrī are among the leading Wahhābi scholars alive today that have immense efforts in countering modern ideologies through books and lectures.
Shaykh Muḥammad Amān al-Jāmī was unable to renter Ethiopia after leaving it, but he corroborated with the leader of the Islāmic front and donated finances to support the jihād with weapons and training, agricultural projects, the building of mosques, schools, hospitals, refugee centres and other infrastructure.
Shaykh Muḥammad Amān al-Jāmī continued funding the jihād until he died.
The Algerian Mujāhidīn Against The French Occupiers Were Wahhābī
(Also relevant to Algeria was the scholarly council headed by ʿAbd al-Ḥamīd Ibn Bādis)
❝And the Muslims from the Saḥābah, Tābiʾīn, and all the people of knowledge from the believers, are upon agreement that Allāh Tabarak wa-Taʾālā is over His Throne above His heavens separate from His creation, and His Knowledge encompasses all of His creation, no one rejects this or denies it except ones who are upon the beliefs of the Ḥulūlīyyah.
They are a group, whose hearts have been deviated, and the Shayāṭīn tempted them, so they left the religion (of Islām). And they said: “Allāh Himself is not without a place.” They said: “He is (here) on earth, as He is in The Heavens, and He is in the same (time) in all things.” The Qurʾān and Sunnah, and the sayings of the Companions and those who followed them, from among the Scholars of the Muslims denied them (Ḥulūlīyyah).
It was said to the Ḥulūlīyyah: “Why do you deny, that Allāh Almighty is above The Throne, while Allāh said: {The Most Merciful rose over The Throne}, [20:5] and He said: {Then established Himself on the Throne. (He is) the Most Compassionate! Ask (none other than) the All-Knowledgeable about Himself}. [25:59] This is what has been reported of Allāh, that He tells about Himself that He is above The Throne.”
They said: “We do not say, He is above The Throne, for He is greater than The Throne, and if He is above The Throne, (that means) that many places are devoid of Him. So, we would have likened Him to His creation, if one of them is in His place, then He is in the same place He is in, and the rest of Him is empty of it. However we say, He is under the Seventh Earth, as He is above the Seventh Heaven, and He is in every place, no place is empty of Him, and He is not in a place without another.”
We said: “As for your statement: ‘He is not on The Throne, for He is greater than The Throne.” Allāh has willed (for) Him to be over The Throne, and is greater Than it. Allāh says: {Then He rose above (ilā al-samāʾ)}, [2:29] He said: }He is Allāh above (fī al-samāʾ)}, then Allāh said: {And on Earth He Knows} [6:3]. So Allāh informed [us], that He is in the Heaven and that His Knowledge is [here] on earth. Allāh said: {The Most Merciful rose over The Throne}, [20:5] and He said: {Then He rose over The Throne}, [25:59] He said: {To Him good words ascend}. [35:10] So is the ascent only to what is higher? He said: }Glorify the Name of your Lord, the Most High}. [87:1] So He informed [us], that He is the highest [compared] to His creation. He said: {They fear their Lord above them}. [16:50] He said: Or do you feel secure that He who is above (fī al-samāʾ) would not send against you a storm of stones?}. [67:17] He said: {To Him good words ascend, and righteous deeds are raised up by Him}. [35:10] He said: {I will take you and raise you up to Myself}. [3:55] He said: {Allāh raised him up to Him}. [4:158] He said: {To Him belongs those in the heavens and the earth, and those who are with Him are not arrogant}. [21:19] He said: {He reigns supreme over His creation}. [6:18] He said: {He is High in stations, the Lord of the Throne}. [40:15] He said: {He conducts every affair from the heavens to the earth, then it [all] ascends to Him}, [32:5] He said: {The angels and the spirit will ascend to Him}. [70:4]
These, and many more are [found] in the Qurʼān. But the cursed Jahmīyyah, Muʾtazilah, Ḥulūliyyah abstained from this and denied it. They cling to its mutashābih, seeking mischief due to [their] deviation in [their] heart, because all the Muslims have known many places, and it is not permissible for there to be from their Lord, except His Knowledge and Greatness. His Power and His Essence, the Exalted, is not in it. So did the Jahmīyyah claim that the place of Iblīs is the one in which Allāh is gathered and He is in it? Rather, the Jahmīyyah claimed that Allāh is in a state of Iblis. Do they (Jahmīyyah) claim that the people of Hell are in Hell, and that The Exalted, The Great, The Generous, is with them in it (Hell)?!
Allāh be Exalted above what the people of deviation and blasphemy say. And they claim that He (Allāh) made the hollow bodies of the servant, and the hollowness of the dogs, pigs, toilets and impure places lawful, which the clean, and the affluent of the creatures will take care of, whether he inhabits or sits in it. Or it is said to them, whoever honours Him, loves Him, and venerates Him, resides in it.
And the Muʾtazilah claimed that their Lord is in all these places. And they claimed, that He is their sleeves, mouth, pocket, body, in his cup…And in the places, which venerate Allāh with having a son.
ʿAbdullāh Ibn al-Mubārak said: “We can speak [with] the words of the Jews and the Christians, [but] we cannot speak with the words of the Jahmīyyah.”
The Jahmīyyah claimed that no place is free of Allāh. And Allāh, The Most High, denied it, did you (Salaf) not hear what He said: {When his Lord appeared to the mountain, He levelled it to dust}. [7:143]
It will be said to the Jahmīyyah: “Did you see the mountain, when he appeared to it? And how did He appear to the mountain, while He was in the mountain?!” Allāh said: {The earth will shine with the light of its Lord}. [39:69] It will be said to the Jahmīyyah: “Is Allāh light?” [They] will say: “He is all light.” It will be said to them: “So Allāh is everywhere?” He [will] say: “Yes!”
We [will] say: “What is the matter with a dark house, that does not illuminate from the light, which is in it (house), and we see a lamp with a wick, that enters the darkened house and [then] it lights up. What is the matter with the dark place that Allāh Almighty settles in, according to your claim, and [the house] does not light?!”
Then it will be clear to you, that the Jahmīyyah’s lies are great, and [their] accusation against their Lord is great.
It will be said to the Jahmīyyah: “Was it not, that their was Allāh and no creation [before Him]?” They [will] say: “Yes!” It will be said to them: “When Allāh created the creation, where did Allāh create them, [while] you claim that there is no place without Him, did He create them (creation) within Himself? Or [did He create them] outside Himself?!”
Then [when you used this argument], the kufr of the Jahmīyyah will become clear to you, and [they] have no way of answering [this], because if he says: “He created the creation inside Himself,” [then] he committed disbelief. He [then] claimed, that Allāh created the Jinn, Humans, Demons, Shayṭān, monkeys, pigs, impurities and stench within Himself! Allāh is far above that [claim].
If he claims: “That He created them (creation) outside His Essence,” he [then] acknowledged that these places are free from Him.
It is said to the Jahmī regarding their statement: “Allāh is everywhere”: Inform us (salaf), if the sun rose upon Him (Allāh), when it appeared? Will He (Allāh) be affected by wind, snow or hail?! And if a man wanted to build a building, or dig a well, or throw filth, he would surely throw that [filth] and build it (house) inside Allāh [His Essence]?!
Our Lord is Glorified and Exalted above what the Atheists describe Him with, and what the deviants attribute Him with.
However, we (the Salaf) say: “Our Lord is the most Exalted in the Highest places, and is the Most High. He ascended above His Throne, above His Heavens, and His Knowledge encompasses all [of] His creatures. He knows what is far, as He knows what is near. He knows what is hidden, just as He knows what is apparent, as He, The Most High, described Himself [with].”
I estimate the length to be similar to the documentary itself; around 3 hours.
The upcoming response to Daniel Haqiqatjou will be split into 4 parts:
Part 1: A background to Daniel’s behaviour
Part 2: Istighāthah
Part 3: The History of Wahhabism and its ideology
Part 4: The Rāfiḍī Shīʾah
𝗣𝗮𝗿𝘁 𝟭: 𝗔 𝗯𝗮𝗰𝗸𝗴𝗿𝗼𝘂𝗻𝗱 𝘁𝗼 𝗗𝗮𝗻𝗶𝗲𝗹’𝘀 𝗯𝗲𝗵𝗮𝘃𝗶𝗼𝘂𝗿
Contrary to what many people believe, Daniel’s recent tirades against Wahhabism are less to do with truth and are actually his way to settle personal issues he has with certain individuals, namely: Jake Brancatella, then Farid Responds, then Adnan Rashid. A timeline demonstrating this will be shown, and how cosplaying as a salafī/wahhābī wasn’t an issue when it suited him.
Daniel’s failure at getting Sunnīs to normalise with the Rāfiḍah and the Irānian regime also has a lot to do with this, but we’ll get to that later.
Daniel’s attempts to spite his critics led him to make a number of false claims about miscellaneous creedal topics, such as:
- Those who make tabdīʾ of Ashʾarīs are ignorant
- Allāh being above the throne is an unclear matter with tolerated differing
- The Qurʾān being uncreated is a secondary ʿaqīdah point
- Butchers Ibn Taymīyyah’s view on tafwīḍ
- Falsely attributes the lafẓī view to al-Bukhārī
- Lies about the Ahl al-Ḥadīth making takfīr on al-Ṭabarī
- Falsely attributes taʾwīl to Aḥmad Ibn Ḥanbal
- Falsely accuses Wahhābīs of believing in an eternal universe
- Accuses Wahhābīs of falsely attributing al-Radd ʿAlā al-Jahmīyyah to Aḥmad Ibn Ḥanbal (after once accepting its attribution)
- Misrepresents al-Saffārīnī’s view on the Ashʾarīs
- Claims Ibn Taymīyyah believed that the disbelievers will eventually be placed in jannah
These claims will be addressed in a brief manner, but some of these claims deserve separate videos to refute. The point of part 1 is to display Daniel’s (de)evolution and its results, it will serve as an introduction and will be comparatively shorter than parts two, three and four.
𝗣𝗮𝗿𝘁 𝟮: 𝗜𝘀𝘁𝗶𝗴𝗵ā𝘁𝗵𝗮𝗵
On the 30th of September 2024, Daniel decided (out of his own volition) to open up a new topic (and related subtopics) by claiming that the Rāfiḍah who believe their Imāms control every atom of the universe aren’t committing kufr, and that “Sunnīs” also believe the same thing about the Prophet ﷺ.
What followed was a well deserved backlash from Sunnīs, with Daniel (unsurprisingly) going even further by making a number of claims related to this topic that will be dealt with in the response. From them are:
- Daniel’s various contradictory positions on istighāthah and wilāyat al-takwīnīyyah (there are a lot)
- What the scholars said about wilāyat al-takwīnīyyah
- Did the majority of scholars disagree with Ibn Taymīyyah’s division of Tawḥīd? (did the mushrikīn of Quraysh affirm Allāh’s rubūbīyyah?)
- Daniel’s lies against Imām Aḥmad and Ibn Taymīyyah regarding praying to jinn and angels
- Daniel’s misuse of scholars on istighāthah
- Pre-Wahhābī scholars on istighāthah
- Daniel’s lies against Wahhābīs regarding amulets
❝The phrase “takfīr” (declaring someone a disbeliever) of some rulers has become widespread on the tongues of students of knowledge. So when does a ruler become a disbeliever?❞
• Shaykh Muqbil replied:
❝This issue that some students of knowledge are preoccupied with — we see that it is neither in the interest of the daʿwah nor in the interest of Islām and the Muslims. The matter of Muslim rulers is well known: they have ceased to care about the religion of Islām and are indifferent to it. But as for the issue of declaring a ruler to be a disbeliever (takfīr), it is not permissible to judge a ruler as a disbeliever unless he makes permissible what Allāh has forbidden, and that is under three conditions:
1. That he does so knowingly, 2. That he is not under compulsion, 3. That he sees the imported law as being like the rule of Allāh or better than it.
{Do they then seek the judgment of [pre-Islāmic] ignorance? And who is better in judgment than Allāh for a people who have certainty?} [5:50]
If that is the case, then someone like Ḥāfiẓ al-Asad, or the leader of misguidance al-Khomeini, or the government of Aden which openly declared its adherence to communism — such people, their disbelief is clear, so do not be concerned.
It should be known that the rulers of the Muslims have come to no longer care about the affairs of the Muslims and have become lackeys of America and Russia. We ask Allāh to guide them back to the truth in a beautiful return. And praise be to Allāh, there are signs that the Muslim youth today will accept nothing except the Book of Allāh and the Sunnah of the Messenger of Allāh — peace and blessings be upon him and his family. So the rulers will return to the Book and the Sunnah, and we advise them to return sincerely, seeking reward from Allāh — not like the one described in the saying:
He prayed and fasted for something he sought; when he got it, he neither prayed nor fasted.
Rather, we advise the rulers of the Muslims and the people of the Sunnah to return to Allāh Almighty. What has happened to them from the leader of misguidance, al-Khomeini, is due to our own deeds and theirs. Indeed, America and Russia will not benefit the rulers of Muslims in the least. O ruler, they do not care about you — all that matters to them is that someone implements their agendas; that is what concerns them. I have mentioned something about this in the issue of takfīr in al-Makhraj Min al-Fitnah because there is not enough time to elaborate now. For example, a person may be excused due to ignorance. Allāh the Exalted said: {And We never punish until We have sent a messenger} [17:15], and He also said: {And Allāh would not lead a people astray after He had guided them until He made clear to them what they should avoid} [9:115].❞
❝The neighboring countries are considered guards for Israel in Palestine, and there is no hope that the present-day countries will bring victory to Islām and the Muslims by their hands. However, hope lies with those working for the sake of Allāh, the Mighty and Majestic. Yes, the Prophet ﷺ said: “Indeed, Allāh supports this religion even with a wicked man.” But you know that America is the one that established Israel in Palestine — that is one matter. The other matter: you know that many governments have become agents for America, unable to oppose it in the slightest. Therefore, we must ask Allāh, the Exalted, to appoint the best among the Muslims over their affairs. It is for this reason that we have called for jihād in the path of Allāh: because if the Muslims are victorious in Afghanistan, or if the Muslims are victorious in Palestine, or if the Muslims are victorious in the Philippines or in any other Islāmic country — if those countries are spared from America’s influence — they would become sanctuaries for the callers to Allāh. And Allāh is the one whose help is sought.❞
One of the most commonly repeated tropes you hear from the opponents of Sunnī orthodoxy are the “fabricated” works that are allegedly the basis for the Sunnī creed.
In light of this phenomena, let’s have some fun by applying the false conditions they mandate on our works onto their books, the books of the Ashʾarī and Māturīdī kalām schools. Their creedal works consist of manuscripts with no chains, dates, unknown scribes and narrators, and sometimes even liars!
[1] Kitāb al-Tawḥīd by Abū Manṣūr al-Māturīdī (d. 333H)
[2] Kitāb al-Ghunyah by al-Mutawallī (d. 478H)
[3] Kitāb al-Lumaʾ Fī al-Radd ʿAlā Ahl al-Zaygh wal-Bidaʾ by Abū al-Ḥasan al-Ashʾarī (d. 324H)
[4] Maqālāt al-Islāmiyyīn by Abū al-Ḥasan al-Ashʾarī
[5] Istihsān al-Khawḍ Fī ʿIlm al-Kalām by al-Ashʾarī
[6] Mujarrad Maqālāt al-Ashʾarī by Ibn Fūrak (d. 406H)
[7] Mushkil al-Ḥadīth wa-Bayānuh by Ibn Fūrak
[8] Sharḥ al-ʿĀlim wal-Mutaʿallim by Ibn Fūrak
[9] Al-Ḥudūd Fī al-Uṣūl by Abū Bakr Ibn Fūrak
[10] Kitāb al-Bayān by al-Bāqillānī (d. 403H)
[11] Kitāb al-Inṣāf (also titled Risālat al-Ḥurrah) by al-Bāqillānī
[12] Kitāb al-Tamhīd by al-Bāqillānī
[13] The Book of the Questions of the People of Rayy by al-Bāqillānī
[14] Laṭāʾif al-Ishārāt by Abū al-Qāsim al-Qushayrī (d. 465H)
[15] The Complaint of Ahl al-Sunnah by al-Qushayrī
[16] The Creed of Abū Isḥāq al-Isfarāʾīnī (d. 418H)
[17] Al-Tabṣīr Fī al-Dīn by Abū al-Muẓaffar al-Isfarāʾīnī (d. 471H)
[18] Al-Shāmil by al-Juwaynī (d. 478H)
[19] Al-Asmāʾ wal-Ṣifāt by ʿAbd al-Qāhir al-Baghdādī (d. 429H)
[20] ʿIyār al-Naẓar by ʿAbd al-Qāhir al-Baghdādī
𝟭) 𝗞𝗶𝘁ā𝗯 𝗮𝗹-𝗧𝗮𝘄ḥī𝗱 𝗯𝘆 𝗮𝗹-𝗠ā𝘁𝘂𝗿ī𝗱ī (𝗱. 𝟯𝟯𝟯𝗛)
The book has been edited in all of its editions based on a single manuscript housed at the University of Cambridge in the UK.
The scribe of the manuscript did not record his name, there is no chain of transmission (isnād), and the date of copying is unknown—though from its apparent condition, it seems to be relatively late.
To cite the statement of the book’s editor, al-Damanhūrī, as evidence, he said:
❝The date of copying this manuscript was certainly before 1150H, since this was the second recorded ownership of the copy in that year, so it must have been copied before the first ownership, which is unknown. This means it is a late manuscript that was in circulation in the 12th century Hijrah, creating a gap of approximately 800 years between it and the death of al-Māturīdī.❞
Accordingly, the book is not valid for anyone who adheres to the requirement of a verified isnād in manuscript transmission, due to both a break in the chain and the anonymity of the scribe.
Observations:
1. There is a massive gap between the time of al-Māturīdī’s death and the likely date of the manuscript, yet neither the Ashʾarīs nor the Māturīdīs hesitate to attribute the book to him.
2. Al-Damanhūrī asserts with certainty in the introduction to his edition that the book is indeed by al-Māturīdī, and he makes no mention of the newly invented methodology promoted by certain ignorant individuals active on social media. This places him among the other scholars who edited Ashʾarī/Māturīdī texts and rejected those fabricated criteria.
𝟮) 𝗞𝗶𝘁ā𝗯 𝗮𝗹-𝗚𝗵𝘂𝗻𝘆𝗮𝗵 𝗯𝘆 𝗮𝗹-𝗠𝘂𝘁𝗮𝘄𝗮𝗹𝗹ī (𝗱. 𝟰𝟳𝟴𝗛)
1. The book was first edited in the year 1406H / 1986 CE by the late orientalist Marie Bernand—a descendant of a Jewish family—under the French Institute for Oriental Archaeology, published in Annales Islamiques, issue no. 7. She relied on a single manuscript copy from the Alexandria Municipal Library. This manuscript is full of omissions and errors, and in some places, the text is completely illegible.
Scribe: Ismāʿīl ibn Yaḥyā ibn Ṣāliḥ al-Mutafaqqih (unidentified). The manuscript was copied in early Shawwāl, 590H.
2. The book was later re-edited by the Habashi scholar Aḥmad Ḥaydar, who used an additional manuscript along with the one used by Marie. This second copy, housed in the Aya Sofya Library in Turkey, contains no isnād, no scribe’s name, and no date of copying, though the handwriting suggests it is relatively later than the first.
Therefore, the book is invalid according to Ashʾarī standards due to the break in transmission.
Observations:
1. The book’s title varies between the two editions. The manuscript from the late 6th century titles it al-Mughnī only, while the later manuscript calls it al-Ghunyah Fī Uṣūl al-Dīn. So which title is correct?
2. Marie is not the first non-Muslim to edit Ashʾarī texts—but she is the first female from a Jewish family to appear in this series.