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⚖️ 18 U.S. Code § 1512 - Tampering with a witness, victim, or an informant

McAfee & Taft and Spencer Fane — up to 30 years under § 1512. The obstruction in my case has never stopped.

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2/ This post is part of my ongoing series, documenting how attorneys, banks, regulators, and courts worked together to silence me. What follows is a detailed account of witness tampering, obstruction of justice, malicious prosecution, and regulatory suppression that spans from January 2016 through present day.oklahomaunderground.substack.com

3/ ⚖️ Under federal law, there is no expiration on witness tampering or obstruction of justice. When these crimes are continuous — when subpoenas remain suppressed, when impersonation blocks access to counsel, when retaliation and intimidation persist — the statute of limitations does not run. This is not “too old” to investigate. It is active, ongoing, and prosecutable.

4/ On January 18, 2016, at Kirk & Chaney’s office, attorneys Jim Kirk and Allen Campbell told Chuck Vose that Anne’s estate belonged to her children.
Allen said: “And then once she passes, what I would do is, I would turn it over to them.”
Kirk added: “You won’t want to do anything until they get appointed executor of her estate.”

5/ Yet just weeks later, on February 23, 2016, Chuck appeared in court with attorney, William Cook and testified under oath that he saw no reason he could not serve as executor of Anne’s estate. This was perjury. He and Anne had both waived all rights to each other’s estates in their prenup agreement.

6/ Kirk and Campbell knew this. They had reassured me, as their client, in my personal divorce proceedings, not to worry — that they would handle everything. But they stayed silent. They never disclosed the January 18 meeting, never corrected the record, and allowed false testimony to stand unchallenged.

7/ On January 19, 2016, #ChuckVose met with #GregWedel (Director of @BancFirstOK, partner in Marco Capital with G. Rainey Williams, Jr.) and Mark Morris. They discussed hiding assets, manipulating Anne’s insurance schedules, and “changing everything around” to use as bargaining leverage.

8/ During that meeting, Wedel laid out exactly how Chuck could liquidate stocks and still control Anne’s personal account:

G. Wedel: “So, you control, you could sell Disney Holding. I-I-I mean, if you look at all the, you know, you got curr—you could sell these stocks [inaudible] American Trailer and generate gains, losses, probly losses, right now. But, you could sell a hundred fifty thousand dollars of stock, seventy-five to you, seventy-five to Anne. And, then that would go to Anne’s personal account which you still control.”
C.A. Vose, Jr.: “Okay.”G. Wedel: “And, you could write a check.”

9/ This exchange shows, in their own words, that Wedel and Vose were planning how to move funds through Anne’s personal accounts and direct the writing of checks.

10/ Yet later, when NBC Oklahoma accounts and demand notices were raised, the record falsely claimed I was responsible for drawing funds. In reality, the checks were written at the request of Jim Kirk, Chuck Vose, and Greg Wedel. Those first meetings were deliberately concealed — and the blame was shifted onto me.

11/ Closing the Inovest Office
Immediately after Anne’s death, Chuck and the attorneys closed the Inovest, Inc. office. I was locked out of my job duties, denied access to records, and sequestered. Operations were moved into Chuck’s private home, behind gates, under the guise of “estate management.”

12/ This ensured that subpoenas could not reach me and that I remained cut off from the legal process. It was deliberate obstruction — isolating me to keep me from testifying about what I knew in those first months of 2016.

13/ 🚨 Witness Tampering by Attorneys
McAfee & Taft
Quashed subpoenas into Wedel, Morris, and even Kirk.
Suppressed evidence of both the January 18 and January 19 meetings.
By sealing and suppressing, they shifted liability onto me.

14/ Dec. 5, 2016: At a meeting with Chuck Vose, Michael McClintock warned him:

15/ “They will figure out a way to prove that you lied, and then we have a huge problem. As long as you're not a liar, it doesn't really matter what you did. If they make you out to be a liar, then everything you did will be scrutinized eight ways to Wednesday, and we'll be talking about this subject for the rest of the year and dealing with this.”

16/ Dec. 8, 2016: My testimony was cancelled, even after my attorney Michael Thom agreed to represent me.

17/ Jan. 5–10, 2017: Lester and McClintock began contacting Armando Rosell. They fraudulently billed for a meeting with me that never happened, creating the appearance I had consented to Rosell’s representation.

18/ Chuck Vose & Robert Lee (Personal Representative)

Beginning Jan. 10, 2017, Chuck and Robert secretly communicated — 79 calls and texts through April. These were supposed to be opposing parties, yet they were suddenly aligned.

19/ They worked with undisclosed attorney Don Timberlake, who had underwritten the Powerline investment tied to Anne’s insurance.
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20/ This was collusion — classic witness tampering.

Enter---McAfee & Taft's (Mike Lauderdale)

Jan. 17, 2017: Lauderdale inserted Gary Rife as an “expert witness,” fabricating testimony to shift blame onto me and away from Chuck’s fraud.

21/ 🚨 Interception & Attorney Impersonation
One of the most egregious forms of obstruction I faced was the impersonation and interception of my attorneys.

22/ Every time I tried to hire independent counsel, my communications were intercepted. Emails and phone calls were rerouted or monitored so that McAfee & Taft, or people acting on their behalf, would step in and impersonate my attorneys.

23/ Even after I formally hired my own counsel on two separate occasions, I would send follow-up emails — and then everything would go silent. The attorneys I believed I had retained never responded.

24/ M&T signed documents and sent communications on behalf of people I believed were my attorneys — but they were not.

25/ Emails were sent from accounts I thought belonged to my lawyers, but they were controlled by others. For years, I negotiated with people who were not actually my attorneys.

26/ The result was that I was denied access to my own counsel at every turn. I never had independent representation. Every step of the way, my supposed “counsel” was either an impersonator or an installation by McAfee & Taft and Spencer Fane.

27/ This was not just obstruction. It was the complete hijacking of my constitutional right to counsel. By ensuring I never had true legal representation, they controlled the narrative, sealed evidence, and eliminated any possibility that I could defend myself.

28/ May–July 2017: Escalation & False Record Creation

May 2017: Rosell pressured me into signing a release under threat of litigation. He admitted he had no retainer agreement, proving he was never my true counsel. The coerced release was later weaponized — re-engineered into a false consent mechanism attached to CJ-2016-4023.

29/ June 2017: The estate and attorneys built the record to portray me as the “person most knowledgeable” about Anne’s finances, ignoring the concealed January meetings where Kirk, Vose, and Wedel directed the checks.

30/ July 2017: Court filings were sealed and suppressed, cutting me out entirely. These filings falsely implied I had consented to settlements or failed to respond, when in fact I had been silenced.

31/ This three-month window was used to finalize the machinery of malicious prosecution and abuse of process — coercing my signature, mischaracterizing my role, and shutting me out completely.

32/ The Release & Termination
Sept. 26, 2017: Mike Lauderdale (McAfee & Taft) sent me a letter terminating my employment, tying it to “mutually acceptable releases.”

33/ I was blamed for “damages” in the Lee estate matter, despite never being a party.

Oct. 18, 2023: Lauderdale threatened me that any further attempts to contact Vose would be treated as extortion and reported for prosecution.

34/ 🏛 Regulatory Obstruction: The obstruction extended into the regulatory sphere.

After I made a complaint against NBC Bank regarding money laundering and human trafficking — specifically stating I had evidence that my signature was being used on corporate accounts (checks) to falsely implicate me in debt — the Oklahoma State Banking Commissioner did not investigate. Instead, they assisted NBC Bank in moving forward with a merger and acquisition, effectively burying my complaint.

34/ The same pattern repeated with CrossFirst Bancshares. Despite my documented complaints, the Commissioner advanced their merger processes rather than addressing the fraud and trafficking evidence I presented.

35/ This was not neutrality. It was deliberate obstruction: my evidence was sidelined, and the institutions I complained about were rewarded with expanded market power.

36/ ✍️ Personal Statement
All of this — the impersonated attorneys, the quashed subpoenas, the coerced releases, the sealed filings, the banking cover-ups, even the police suppression — was because my testimony would have exposed #ChuckVose as a liar.

37/ And once he was proven a liar, everything he touched would have been scrutinized. The trusts, the insurance policies, the accounts, the transfers — all of it. The truth would have come out.

38/ That is why they destroyed my life. That is why they silenced me. All of this obstruction, tampering, and retaliation comes back to one thing: I knew the truth, and they couldn’t let me speak it.

39/ ⚖️ Why It Matters
This was not ordinary litigation. It was a coordinated scheme of witness tampering, retaliation, malicious prosecution, abuse of process, and regulatory obstruction, in violation of:

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18 U.S.C. § 1512 – tampering with a witness
18 U.S.C. § 1513 – retaliation against a witness
§ 1513(e): retaliation by interfering with the lawful employment or livelihood of a witness

41/ At every stage, the objective was the same: to make sure I had no access to anything.
Civil Jury Trial Fabrication: A civil jury trial was initiated where I was named a “non-party heir” who was supposedly unjustly enriched — a complete legal fiction.

42/ Consolidation with Probate: That civil jury trial was consolidated with PB-2016-72 and PB-2016-96.

Jury Waived: Judge Richard Kirby unilaterally waived the jury and ruled from the bench. This stripped me of constitutional protections in civil proceedings and due process in probate.

43/ Regulatory Suppression: Complaints I filed against NBC Bank and CrossFirst Bancshares — raising evidence of fraud, laundering, and trafficking — were not investigated but buried to protect mergers.

44/ The result: I was denied testimony, denied counsel, denied evidence, denied employment, denied the protections of law, and denied regulatory redress.

45/ This has had a devastating effect on every part of my life — complete and utter destruction. I have no employment, no financial security, and no ability to survive independently.

46/ ⏳ No Expiration on Obstruction of Justice
Witness tampering and obstruction of justice are not technicalities. They are felonies under federal law. And when those crimes are ongoing — when evidence is still withheld, when impersonation still blocks counsel, when retaliation still occurs — the statute of limitations does not apply.

47/ In my case, the obstruction has never stopped. Subpoenas remain quashed. Filings remain sealed. I have never had independent counsel. Retaliation continues.

48/ ⚖️ Under 18 U.S.C. § 1512, this offense can be prosecuted in the district where it occurred, and there is no expiration date.
There is no expiration date on justice.

49/ 📚 Explore the Full Archive
For supporting evidence, transcripts, filings, and research into the broader system of corruption in Oklahoma, see:

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